Getting Cut With MMv2- HMAN'S FIRST LOG

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  1. Well I went for it! 4 here we go. Lets have some fun


  2. Anyway you can separate your lifting & cardio? I sometimes do cardio after weights but I also do very short training sessions. You get more bang for your buck with cardio when your blood glycogen levels are low & the 2 best times are after weight training & first thing in the morning. I have always gotten a little better fat loss by doing cardio in the morning and been able to maintain/gain strength better while dieting by separating the two. By my count your last training session had 22 sets which is not a short session. Let's say your weight training is 1hr followed by 1hr of cardio so that's 2hrs which to me is too long and I bet in your case it's even longer. If you were to continue this for a long period of time without the use of any anabolics the combination of the long training sessions and the low calorie diet would cause you to lose muscle mas and strength. Speaking of which if your strength drops increase your protein intake or shorten your training sessions or both.
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  3. Wink


    Myself, I like shorter, more intense cardio sessions. I'd rather do 20 minutes of intense cardio than 1 hour of regular paced, boring cardio! This is my personal preference! Go hman!!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by FOOFAC View Post
    Anyway you can separate your lifting & cardio? I sometimes do cardio after weights but I also do very short training sessions. You get more bang for your buck with cardio when your blood glycogen levels are low & the 2 best times are after weight training & first thing in the morning. I have always gotten a little better fat loss by doing cardio in the morning and been able to maintain/gain strength better while dieting by separating the two. By my count your last training session had 22 sets which is not a short session. Let's say your weight training is 1hr followed by 1hr of cardio so that's 2hrs which to me is too long and I bet in your case it's even longer. If you were to continue this for a long period of time without the use of any anabolics the combination of the long training sessions and the low calorie diet would cause you to lose muscle mas and strength. Speaking of which if your strength drops increase your protein intake or shorten your training sessions or both.
    If i do cardio after weights it s only about 15 minutes worth. Iwould love to get up and do cardio frst thing in the morning but I have had some messed up sleeping patterns that i am trying to get out of so I don't usually get up before i have class.My protein is very high somewhere in the range on 275-320. So that isn't a problem.I don't feel like I am losing any muscle and strength keeps rising.

  5. Don't quote me here because it's been a longtime since I read the specifics but I think under normal circumstances it takes 20min or so before you start to burn fat. After a workout or first thing in the morning you will start to burn fat faster but I think it is still something like 10-15min before this happens. If you are only doing 15min that may not be enough. I do 30min sessions but 15-20min of that is fat burning where as in your case it's 0-5mins. High intensity cardio will burn more calories but only a little more fat than low intensity. I used to do a high intensity version that was like wind sprints and it was very effective. Now I only do low intensity cardio and save the high intensity for the gym. Both high or low intensity are fine; high intensity little faster results, low intensity more consistency & longevity which can equal better results depending on a persons dedication. Classic tortoise and the hare scenario. lol
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by FOOFAC View Post
    Don't quote me here because it's been a longtime since I read the specifics but I think under normal circumstances it takes 20min or so before you start to burn fat. After a workout or first thing in the morning you will start to burn fat faster but I think it is still something like 10-15min before this happens. If you are only doing 15min that may not be enough. I do 30min sessions but 15-20min of that is fat burning where as in your case it's 0-5mins. High intensity cardio will burn more calories but only a little more fat than low intensity. I used to do a high intensity version that was like wind sprints and it was very effective. Now I only do low intensity cardio and save the high intensity for the gym. Both high or low intensity are fine; high intensity little faster results, low intensity more consistency & longevity which can equal better results depending on a persons dedication. Classic tortoise and the hare scenario. lol
    I feel as though i personally burn more muscle if i do High intensity. Thats way i usually keep a slower pace or do bike or stairs.

  7. Nice leg workout today I was going realt strong. i couldn't do squats b/c there was to many people at my gym.(hate school gyms for this reason). I still felt as though I got a very good workout today.on another note found out I got a 96 on my hard ass astronomy test, I was psyched about thatI am starting to realize how much of b1tch it's going to be going to school for another 6 years

  8. no workout today. Will try to get some cardio in. Thats if I get all my work done for my test tomorrow.

  9. 6 more years, damn bro. Congrats on getting the A. I'm sure if your like me these past few weeks and these next couple are going to be rough. Final tests and exams. What are you going to school if you don't mind me asking?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by TerribleTowel View Post
    6 more years, damn bro. Congrats on getting the A. I'm sure if your like me these past few weeks and these next couple are going to be rough. Final tests and exams. What are you going to school if you don't mind me asking?
    Yeah this last month is going to be rough for sure. The reason i have to go for another 6 is I have to finnish my bachelors. Then i have to go to chiropractic school for another 4 years. They say it can be done in 3 but we will see. Any way thanks for stopping by.

  11. About to go to do some cardio Thought I would throw some hot chicks in
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  12. Cardio tonight was not good. I ran for 45 mins but it took everything I had to keep going that long. Not sure what is was exactly. I think it was a little mj I had early. Whatever it was it hard. Weight losses seem to have slowed down alittle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    Cardio tonight was not good. I ran for 45 mins but it took everything I had to keep going that long. Not sure what is was exactly. I think it was a little mj I had early. Whatever it was it hard. Weight losses seem to have slowed down alittle.
    A little "MJ"?!?? LOL!! Love it!!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    A little "MJ"?!?? LOL!! Love it!!
    Got to do what you got to do, You know?

  15. I just had a little something to mention here. in the 3ad logs, they mentioned their recommendation of 20g of fats with 3ad dosing. I've been trying that the last week or so as I went into a strict CKD, and I think its made a difference. just wondering what you think, and what you are taking it with

  16. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I just had a little something to mention here. in the 3ad logs, they mentioned their recommendation of 20g of fats with 3ad dosing. I've been trying that the last week or so as I went into a strict CKD, and I think its made a difference. just wondering what you think, and what you are taking it with
    That is how i have been trying to do it. I have been taking it with meals and since i have been low carb. I have been taking it with at least 20g of fat. there have been a couple time that i couldn't take it with fat and it seems to of not worked as well. I never got any receptor either so that could have something to do with it as well.

  17. interesting. yeah, I started while doing TKD, so breakfast + PWO included some amount of carbs, and so breakfast also was lower fat then.
  18. Question


    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I just had a little something to mention here. in the 3ad logs, they mentioned their recommendation of 20g of fats with 3ad dosing. I've been trying that the last week or so as I went into a strict CKD, and I think its made a difference. just wondering what you think, and what you are taking it with
    You remember me mentioning to you just here recently Easy, about me taking 20 grams of healthy efa's everyday for months now. I think it does help with absorption of things like MMV2 and 3-AD. One thing I've been undecided on however Easy, is does fish oil and healthy fats help with methyls like epi, super, phera, halo. and others? I've heard some say that it doesn't, but I'd appreciate your opinion. I value your opinions very highly Easy. Thanks. THE THUNDERGOD

  19. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    You remember me mentioning to you just here recently Easy, about me taking 20 grams of healthy efa's everyday for months now. I think it does help with absorption of things like MMV2 and 3-AD. One thing I've been undecided on however Easy, is does fish oil and healthy fats help with methyls like epi, super, phera, halo. and others? I've heard some say that it doesn't, but I'd appreciate your opinion. I value your opinions very highly Easy. Thanks. THE THUNDERGOD
    I have always heard that it does. But bump just in case

  20. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    You remember me mentioning to you just here recently Easy, about me taking 20 grams of healthy efa's everyday for months now. I think it does help with absorption of things like MMV2 and 3-AD. One thing I've been undecided on however Easy, is does fish oil and healthy fats help with methyls like epi, super, phera, halo. and others? I've heard some say that it doesn't, but I'd appreciate your opinion. I value your opinions very highly Easy. Thanks. THE THUNDERGOD
    BUMP!!

  21. Thats a toughie. Basically the point of methylation is to provide oral bioavailability, so in that way it shouldn't make as much a difference. But I think even the methyls are more lipophillic than hydrophillic, so they should help as well. Patrick Arnold talked about it a lot (taking fats with compounds) but then again I don't think he ever sold anything methyl. I gotta go look around Definitely it can't hurt if you are doing it like thundergod, high dosed fish + 3/6 oils during most methyl cycles are just good insurance for your cholesterol levels, as well as joints on dry compounds

  22. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    You remember me mentioning to you just here recently Easy, about me taking 20 grams of healthy efa's everyday for months now. I think it does help with absorption of things like MMV2 and 3-AD. One thing I've been undecided on however Easy, is does fish oil and healthy fats help with methyls like epi, super, phera, halo. and others? I've heard some say that it doesn't, but I'd appreciate your opinion. I value your opinions very highly Easy. Thanks. THE THUNDERGOD
    I'm almost 100% certain that it does help with the absorption of the mentioned compounds. Some compounds are lipophyllic and some are lipophobic. Dbol is methylated and it is lipophyllic, so this should apply to legal orals also.
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    Thanks Easy and Bassgod. I always take the 20 grams of healthy efa's everyday whether on-cycle, PCT, or even afterwards. Just wanted to know if it helped. It was my own opinion that it does. Thanks guys. THE THUNDERGOD

  24. Went to class to take a history test and the teach wasn't there so test is on tues I am going to go to the gym in about an hour and will be hitting up shoulders and alittle tris and abs as well. Have a good feeling today and actually woke up at a reasonable time. Might go out and have a couple beers tonight with some friend. Whats everyones thought on a couple drinks should I abstain or just have a couple?

  25. I'd vote no, unless today is your carbup day
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