ReaperX: ErgoPharm AMP (original)
03-20-2008 12:24 PM
On my grind
Ive got the original version of AMP and if meth is like that im glad im nowhere near it. This stuff makes me feel horrible, sad, irritable, depressed. I cant use it. It does kill my hunger though which i like. Little things set me off. Its almost like a zanax and alcohol except on zannies and alcohol i feel much happier UNTIL im pissed off. lol
E-Pharm Rep... PM me with any questions or concerns
03-20-2008 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by Norwegian
I think people get intimidated in the gym, esp if there are a ton of people not serious about training. The problem I have with my friends is:
1. Dosent train/eat right at all. Everything is wrong and only wants to know about gear only.
2. Has really good genetics, looks like Jay Cutler, but only trains DC, hardly squats or works legs. Just has a genetically conditioned upperbody (mainly front). Hasen't changed workout routine in 7 years.
3. Lackidasical in working out except biceps/triceps. Goes full out intensity on arms, all the other body parts suck.
So yeah none of them really work as a workout partner. Furthermore, if I have one pet peeve, it is people telling me how to workout or if my training is 'incorrect'. I've done tons of journeled workout programs and various ones that I have tried. I have a relatively good idea of what works out for me. I've had several people come up to me telling me that I shouldn't deadlift barefoot as I might 'drop' in on my feet. Ok.
03-20-2008 02:16 PM
This is an email I recieved in regards to AMP versions.
Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
03-20-2008 02:26 PM
So, yeah. That's the scoop on the purple label and what I'm trying out right now.
03-20-2008 08:58 PM
I've been told the same thing by the guy who works the desk where i workout. He nicknamed me the Pitbull.
Originally Posted by witt51
It's business time!!
03-20-2008 10:03 PM
Ride the snake! ahhahahaha
Originally Posted by Gtarzan81
"I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
03-20-2008 10:26 PM
Went back home for the weekend.
8 hrs of work+3 hrs of driving=3 caps of AMP 30 minutes pre-workout. I've found that AMP works best around 30-45 min pre-workout. Any earlier than that it is still 'kicking in'.
A little sluggish during my workout. No jitters, no crash which is great. Had a warm thermogenic effect that was more pronounced with 3 caps vs. 2 caps. No nausea. I usually only get nausea if I take caps 1st thing in the morning on an empty stomach.
I had a pretty damn good workout for such an extensive day.
Traps & Delts:
Lateral raises: 15,15,13,12,10,8
Arnold Presses: 8,8,6
Rear pec-dec: 10,12,10,12
Barbell shrugs: 20,15,15,9
Upright Rows: 12,12,10,6
I still actually feel pretty awake right now. I don't have work tommorow as it is a government holiday (here anyways).
03-20-2008 10:44 PM
I need 4 caps each time I take AMP, and that is a very, very clean and smooth feeling, very energized and awake, and my core warms up nicely. However, it tends to take me about an hour and a half to feel the effects of any thermo .. strange ..
Glad it's working for ya tho!
03-20-2008 10:48 PM
Originally Posted by Norwegian
Yeah I like how I don't crash. Even if I take too much caffeine without sugar I still crash. We'll see how the new AMP 2 works out. I should have that hopefully by next week.
Giant Nutrition sells geranamine by itself.
03-20-2008 10:54 PM
The Zingerone in 'Clear Shot' should be added to AMP. That is some good sheit.
03-21-2008 05:27 AM
I tried the clearshot a few times and never liked it. Tasted gross and didnt work as well as AMP. I prefer the pills
03-21-2008 12:35 PM
With Clear Shot you need a full bottle, maybe even a tad bit more, but I like it. The original one tasted bad, but now there is a apple cinnimon flavor for the current clear shot.
Has anyone tried Leviathan Reloaded ? The thing that interests me the most is that it is supposed to burn fat, but be an 'anti-catabolic'. Interesting.
The only thing stopping me is the yohimbe, or yohimbine whichever they use.
I tend to have very negative/adverse reactons when taking herbal alkaloids.
03-21-2008 01:45 PM
After reading lots of logs and feedback, I decided to go for Leviathan Reloaded myself. Started Wednesday. Initially, it's a real smooth energy and mood-improver, and definitely gets my furnace burning, but I found that I crashed bad at around 5.30PM when my second dosage is aruond 1.30PM. I work out @ 7PM, so I've got to change something here.. First dosage of the day is @ 7AM.
Originally Posted by ReaperX
I'm probably gonna be opening a log on my stack. Will keep ya posted.
03-21-2008 02:07 PM
That is what i have used before also.. IMO that was the best stim product i ever used. I had SUPER focus on that stuff, and had such a euphoric feeling. I gave this girl i know a bunch of them when she was studying for finals, and she loved them.. Wish i had them back now
Originally Posted by RenegadeRows
03-21-2008 05:15 PM
I'll still keep Levithan Reloaded in mind.
I don't actually post-carb after workouts.
1. Since I workout later in the evening, it will lead to fat storage
2. I haven't manipulated 'insulin management' in the past via fast digesting carbs, and still have managed to put on muscle.
I just eat enough carbs to get through the day, then just eat 40g of protein post workout. Nothing too special, but it works.
03-21-2008 05:51 PM
This reminds me of Stim X. I tried the samples before it came out and I could take one pill and have amazing energy and euphoria all day. Then when the actual product came out, it wasn't as good. Other people noticed the same.
Originally Posted by witt51
Also, Reaper you might want to try working out first thing in the AM. It really takes some adjusting, but if you pop your stims as soon as your alarm goes off, grab a quick snack (pre workout shooter or some real food), then hit the gym, you can get in carbs post-workout and eat a whole lot more during the day because you really feel the need to eat. Plus it helps when you have really long days, cuz you've already got your workout in and then you can just go home at the end of your day and chill (or sleep). At the end of the day, you'll never have to say I'm too exhausted to lift, cuz you've already done it!
I just started doing this a few weeks ago because I was having severe sleep issues with my evening workouts (pre-workout stims+post workout adrenaline+late night meals = insomnia) and I'm so glad I made the switch.
Just a suggestion.
03-21-2008 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by JJC
Ugh, I know what you mean ! A friend worked at GNC - caugh caugh - and had a bottle of Stim-X when Anabolic Xtreme FiRST got it out. It was a sample bottle before they even began carrying it .. anyway, one morning I had an early AM workout - yes, I DO remember although it was 2 years ago - because two of those got my ass so wired and jittery for the longest period of time I could even think possible.. I remember because I took them before I worked out in College Station one morning early AM, and my heart was beating out of my chest and I was soaking my clothes just sitting still the whole drive to Houston following the workout, and for the remainder of the afternoon ..
EDIT. BTW, JJC, I did not finish reading your whole post until I posted this, I just caught the glimpse of the Stim-X and commented .. but it's sort of funny that we were both talking about SAMPLE-bottles !
03-21-2008 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by JJC
I've been thinking for awhile now about doing that. Since you brought it up, I think I might end up giving that a change. It is a fine balance, because I have to go to the gym between 7-8pm, get done around 9:00pm, which is just suffice to go to sleep around 11pm. I then wake up @ 7:00am the next day.
If that timing is off, or I train too hard, I end up not being able to sleep till 12am or later then it becomes counter productive as I did not get enough sleep the night before. In fact this is the biggest problem that I encountered when I first graduated college and started working. It took a good several months for me to figure out how much to work out and what times in order to make it all work for the evening. I think it would be a good idea to try something else different.
So the new stim x released isn't that great ? I was contemplating on getting it, but as of yet I haven't really heard any reviews on it at all.
03-22-2008 10:57 AM
I noticed I have to take 3 caps of AMP now. I think I am developing a slight tolerance to it after several days. 2 caps/ED isn't quite cutting it anymore.
Went to the gym this morning then postworkout took in some carbs.
20 min low impact cardio
Flat Dumbbell: 15,12,12,10
Incline Dumbbell: 10,10,8,6
Dumbbell Flies: 12,12,10,10,8
Decline Barbell: 10,10,10,8
Great pump today, lots of volume.
03-22-2008 02:06 PM
Damn bro, didn't take ya long to adapt to the 2 cap dosage, sorry to hear that ! @ 6 caps/day, you'll be done with a bottle in NO time. It's unfortunate !
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