B's Epi Log
- 03-15-2008, 12:36 AM
B's Epi Log
Hey guys I started an Epidrol cycle Monday at 183lbs. I'm hoping to get to 195-200lbs by the end of this cycle.
So far here's what I've done:
Day 1 and 2: 10mg
Day 3,4, and 5: 20mg
I'll do 2 more days at 20mg.
I'll be doing 30mg from day 8-21.
If I'm making really good gains at the end of the 3rd week I might do a 4th week. If not, I'm only going to run this cycle for 3 weeks, and I'm not going to go up to 40mg.
In addition to Epidrol I'm also taking:
AI-Cycle support- 2 a day
Thermolife-Liver Longer- 1 a day
Multi-2 a day
Creatine Mono- 5-10mg a day
For PCT I'll be using Torem, Cycle support, Activate Xtreme, and Retain2.
- 03-15-2008, 01:47 AM
03-15-2008, 01:49 AM
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03-15-2008, 02:07 AM
03-15-2008, 03:11 AM
03-15-2008, 01:54 PM
03-16-2008, 01:03 PM
I think your expectations of epi are unrealistic but, on the other hand if you aim high you miss high. PCT looks tight. You could add an AI to taper up as your serm tapers down to avoid estro rebound. With your PCT and expectations you want to do atleast a 4 weeker with three of those at 40mg's. Best of luck to you!
03-17-2008, 04:21 AM
03-17-2008, 01:37 PM
03-17-2008, 04:24 PM
03-17-2008, 06:23 PM
03-17-2008, 08:21 PM
possible but not typical. 6 lbs off a 4 week cycle at 30mg 's or higher is respectable....bro must have diet and training tuned in for that kinda start or he just needs to pee real bad. The best gains i've read about so far would be in poopy's epi log. I think it was 17 lbs or something redonkulous. Nice start bro keep it up!
03-17-2008, 10:34 PM
03-17-2008, 11:25 PM
Bro, I am not doubting you at all. I have just never ran an epi product before so I really don't know what to expect as far as gains go. I have never really followed any logs of it before because I was not really interested. Lately it has gotten my attention. Just wondering if it is typical. I might have to run it in the future if so.
Sounds like a winner to me.
03-18-2008, 08:25 AM
good luck dude!
it's crazy how everyone responds differently to supplements.
I'm in the beginning of week 3 with Havoc and I'm only up 3lbs. My dosing so far as been 20/30/40. I'm leaning out nicely though with some nice definition increases
03-18-2008, 09:40 AM
03-19-2008, 11:19 AM
Looks like I'm starting to get leaner now, and I look like I'm always pumped up. The veins are really starting to come out in my arms. My shoulders are looking much thicker and wider. Overall my entire upper body looks much fuller. My thighs are up atleast an inch too, but I also attribute that to not doing any leg work, other then cardio, during wrestling season.
03-21-2008, 02:06 AM
I look bigger, but I'm still about the same weight... I'm getting pissed that I am eating so much and not gaining more weight.(still around 188-190) I guess I'll have to start hitting a buffet every couple days and eating until I am sick.
03-21-2008, 07:21 AM
I took Epi last year, on a cut. Me and my girlfriend were breakin at the time. She saw me and said "You've gotten bigger" ... i replied "funny cuz I lost 7lbs since you last saw me" ... Epi has a funny way of dropping fat and adding muscle to your frame
Just keep up the eating, youll wake up one day and be 5lbs heavier...
03-22-2008, 02:14 AM
Anyone ever experience strength gains from epi? I haven't really seen any yet. Also does anyone notice strength gains during pct while on torem?
My buddy got stronger during his last week of epi, and he kept getting stronger while on torem... is this normal?
03-28-2008, 10:24 AM
I'm eating a lot. I kept my daytime diet about the same, but now I'm having a large meal before bed, not just a shake.
It's my 20th day on epi, and I'm still running 30mg a day. I'm taking one at 8am, 3pm, and 11pm. I spaced them out as evenly as I could.
Weight is up to 191-192.5 dry. I haven't checked it dry since Tuesday, and it was 191. I really have seen great gains. I'm able to deadlift 4-5 reps with what was my max 3 weeks ago. My shoulders, back and legs are visibly larger. Shoulders and thighs are both up about 1.5". Bodyfat is about the same(about 9% with 6 visible abs), but I am more vascular.
I'm contemplating the idea of starting PCT(torem) Sunday, and totally skipping week 4 of Epi. I don't see much shutdown, but my friend said he didn't notice much until he started his last week with 40mg a day. He said I should stop while I'm ahead, and get on Torem before I start to see shutdown or any other problems. Do you guys agree with this?
How long after I finish Torem how long do I need to wait to start another cycle of epi, or a cycle of a Superdrol clone? I'm thinking atleast 6-8 weeks?
03-29-2008, 02:35 PM
continue on through week 4 if you feel good. Everybody's different. Lot's of guys run for six weeks with no issues. Another option if your worried would be to taper down to 20 for the 4th week.
03-29-2008, 05:08 PM
i did 20 20 30 30 and I actually am stopping today even though i have a little under a week left. I stopped really gaining strength like I did in the 2nd & 3rd week and sides were starting to show more so I think I have used this kind of stuff enough to know when a good time to stop is. I feel that the best thing to do is just feel it out and listen to your body because you cant go wrong that way. Also since I am stopping early that just means i can finish up my Pct ( PCS, ALPHA DRIVE XL, E-FORM) and get back on sooner.
03-29-2008, 07:42 PM
03-29-2008, 09:01 PM
general rule of thumb is: length of cycle + length of Pct from the day you finish PCT so 3 week cyle+ 4 week PCT so 7weeks from the day you finish your PCT. Usually works out to be roughly 90 days between cycles.
03-30-2008, 02:21 AM
03-30-2008, 02:27 AM
Alright today was my last day on Epidrol. I will get my dry weight in the morning.
Here is the breakdown on my PCT:
Torem: Day 1-2: 120mg, Day 3-7: 90mg, Day 8-14: 60mg, Day 15-21: 30mg
Activate Xtreme: 2 capsules 3 times a day
Retain2: 1 capsule 3 times a day
Cycle Supports: 2 times a day
Liverlonger: 1 a day
Multi, Vit-C, Calcium, Fish oil, Flax seed oil, Creatine
How does that look?
03-30-2008, 11:11 AM
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