Havoc Non-log Notepad for my cycle.
- 03-21-2008, 08:04 PM
- 03-21-2008, 08:23 PM
Just to add, because I really don't understand. This site does not allow the sale or reference to sale of steroids, clearly states that in it's user agreement. If havoc was a steroid it would have been banned, illegal to get unless for medical use. Nutraplanet wouldn't be allowed to sell it so freely. So if it's a steroid why is it sold all over without any trouble? This is my question.
03-21-2008, 08:24 PM
this is gonna get good......
alex, its a steroid. as the others have said, it doesn't CONVERT inside the body, therefore it is NOT a pro-hormone.
03-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Quote form the Source posting rules
As of now, the legalities of Epistane/Havoc and several PH's are still unknown therefore do not fall under these rules. Since they are sold by the largest of retailers the legalities of these substances are unknown, they are an exception for now. These rules will constantly change based on updates to the law.
03-21-2008, 10:32 PM
03-21-2008, 10:35 PM
The reason I am saying all this and being a little stubborn(and I'm really not) is the fact that when I posted questions and stuff about steroids years ago here I'd get in so much sh$t and now you can talk about buying them so freely and not getting a pm by a MOD saying "watch it"??
03-22-2008, 08:25 PM
03-22-2008, 08:27 PM
03-22-2008, 08:48 PM
i dont usually workout on saturdays but i went today cause im bored , the highlight of my day was that i was able to shoulder press 110lbs dbs for 3 sets of 8 reps without a spotter or any help.
i really like how this makes me feel. i got my NP stuff today, so im all set up for the next 6 weeks or maybe 5 weeks when it comes to supps.
So far no BP issues just the back pumps but with taurine they arent a problem, im not noticing that im loosing more hair than usual.
03-22-2008, 10:49 PM
". Nutraplanet wouldn't be selling steroids, they wouldn't be allowed to YET you still think they're steroids? Think about that one. Some people want to believe they're taking steroids so be it, if that makes you train harder and feel better about yourself go ahead.
This forum is two faced, completely. You have a friendly conversation with someone, help by giving advice and the same person will try to make you look like an idiot in a different post just to proclaim their knowledge on substances....
03-22-2008, 10:53 PM
03-23-2008, 01:48 PM
Dood. Nobody's trying to make you look like an idiot. You're just arguing with people who know what they are talking about. Google Epistane or Havoc. Read as much information on that as you can. I promise you you will see it is a steroid. Ive run 2 cycles of this stuff. I def felt like I was on steroids and not on a ph. Dont go based off how a sentence was worded in the rules thread.
Edit: Agreed 110 lbs is impressive!
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03-23-2008, 04:02 PM
Well I did do some more research and they basically say it's a steroid. My argument was based on the fact that Nutrplanet is selling it so "how could it be a steroid". That's all. I personally don't care to continue this, I didn't like how some members reply to instigate an argument. That's fine because it's always like that on forums, people are always two faced with exception of a few.
03-23-2008, 06:30 PM
03-23-2008, 06:49 PM
03-23-2008, 09:40 PM
03-24-2008, 05:35 PM
03-24-2008, 07:44 PM
03-25-2008, 02:31 AM
i had a whole upper body workout today, my arms feel like they are going to xplode ,there wasnt alot of people so i worked out on a wifebeater, a few hot girls were there they seem alil to young but they were flirting alot, i coulnt be rude so i had to flirt back that also gave me extra motivation to push the iron.
cant wait for tomorrow lower body
weight 200.5 lbs
03-25-2008, 10:46 AM
03-25-2008, 10:54 AM
03-25-2008, 11:04 AM
You find your motivation in doing what it takes to reach your goals. Push yourself beyond what an average person has the willpower to do!
03-25-2008, 11:17 AM
03-25-2008, 11:21 AM
03-25-2008, 11:27 AM
OH LOL! Well the short time I tried Havoc I had no lethargy. I kind of boosts mood so the only stims you need are the ones you like anyway..lol
03-25-2008, 11:33 AM
03-25-2008, 12:45 PM
03-25-2008, 01:13 PM
Glad to see your liking this zombo. Nice log broski!
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03-25-2008, 02:01 PM
03-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Lookin good Zombie. Looks like you are gaining some serious weight on this cycle. How are the strength gains coming?
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