spring/summer pro cycle

[bigcountry19]

I have done around 6 to 8 cycles over the last few years, but never really bothered to post one. I decided to finnally post one though since this cycle is more of a total evolution of my training and body composition. Over the last summer(2007) I didnt train all that much, I was sick alot and was overly stressed because of a bad work environment, but i was lucky enough to finnaly get out and pull through the whole situation and am back to a regular workout routine.

workout
As I said before i am changing my workout routine that old system I followed involved "high intensity traning" by the late and great Mike mentzer I am not changing from his methodes totaly I'm just adding some powerlifting exercises to my routine to better add strength gains to my cycle.

diet
My diet will not be traked stingintly because i don't really have the time for it i have been counting grams since I was 15 so I have most things memorized, and I know when my body needs carbs/pros/fats. I will how ever specify what types of nutrients I take in each meal.

supps
The only other supps I will be taking during my cycle will be animal flex for my joints,ultra mega goldmy multi,superior amino 2222 tabsaminos 5 3 tabs 3 times a day,flax seed oil 1000mg 2 tabs 3 times a day for both cholesterol and joints, and lastly milk thistle 240mg 2 tabs 3 times a day more towards the middle to end of my cycle.

I will post stats,pics,cycle,diet,and workout schedule soon I am not starting my cycle till about the end of march to middle of april because i dont have everything in yet I'm debating on what else to add to my cycle i was going to do a halo/TrenaPLEX mix but the company I was getting it from has had it out of stock for some time now and Im to impatient so I'm going to try the new methyl masterdrol. I want one more pro though I'm debating between halo clone or sd clone. I have had good results with both but just not sue yet, so If you want to throw your two cents in I would really appreciat it. I will post sample cycle and other things later tonight though. looking forward to the feed back.

P.S.excuse grammer error/ spelling english was my weak subject
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[bigcountry19]

my stats as of today are

L arm 17"
R arm 17"
L forarm 13 1/2"
R forarm 13 1/2"
chest 51"
heres the part I hate
waist 38 1/2"
from belly button 40"
legs
L upper 28"
R upper 28"
L lower 24"
R lower 24"
245 pounds
BF ? can see top to abbs
21 this april
5'11
not a bencher, but 275 for 3
dead 415 for 8
(bad knees so super slow reps) squat 315 for 8
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[stl123]

I'm confused. What product are you actually logging? Is it the methyl masterdrol?

Edit
Nevermind.. I reread your post and I think that is what you said. Personally I would just stick with what you have and not worry about adding another prohormone to this. SD is very harsh from what I have read pretty much everywhere and has tons of sides.

PS
You are probably going to catch some sh*t because you are only 20yrs old

[bigcountry19]

as of right now methyl masterdrol,epithin-e,and revolt. but im going to add one more i think halo because i can get it cheaper and i have seen better results
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[stl123]

Damn. I just reread your post again. You did 6-8 cycles of what previously? Prohormones? What age did you start cycling prohormones if so?

I hope you are ready for a major scolding if thats the case.

[bigcountry19]

lol, I have heard it all. the earlest age was 18, but im not an idiot i have been studing this stuff since the age of 15 so I know the sides/ problems that can happen but i figure hey at least im not like other kids out huffing crap or snorting it up there nose.:squat:

[stl123]

What cycles have you run in the past?

[bigcountry19]

my first few because i was younger were small stuff like 4 weekers but the longest ive done were 8 to 10. Prohormones I have used are
pheramax
superdrol
halodrol
1,4 ad bold
propadrol
tranbolan
x mass
and probably one or two more

[stl123]

What have you used on cycle, as far as support supps go? What about PCT on all those cycles? How long have you been waiting before starting a new cycle?

That is a hell of a lot of cycles for someone your age.

What did you run for 10 weeks?

[bigcountry19]

I have used alot of diffrent support supps-post cycle stuff.
most times I wait 2 months or so between and longer cycles i usually bridge or stagger and most of the time if it runs entire lenght its none methyl.
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[stl123]

as of right now methyl masterdrol,epithin-e,and revolt. but im going to add one more i think halo because i can get it cheaper and i have seen better results
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So you are basically considering stacking 4 prohormones together, all of which are methylated? What makes you think that is a good idea?

lol, I have heard it all. the earlest age was 18, but im not an idiot i have been studing this stuff since the age of 15 so I know the sides/ problems that can happen but i figure hey at least im not like other kids out huffing crap or snorting it up there nose.

Why do you think that you have heard it all already? Have you honestly had anyone educated tell you this is a good idea? It seems to me that you are looking for couple of people to tell you this is a good idea so you can ignore the majority of people who have or are going to tell you this is an extremely bad idea. If there was any truth to the fact that you have studied these compounds and know the sides and problems they can cause for you then you would not be considering this stack.

Given your age and history with prohormones, I believe that you you will disregard any negative feedback you will recieve and opt to believe the one person that will tell you what you want to hear.

Good luck.

[bigcountry19]

yeah

[stl123]

I have used alot of diffrent support supps-post cycle stuff.

That does not anwser my question. What STUFF did you take for PCT and what support supps did you take? Not what did you read here afterwards and realized that you should have taken.

[bigcountry19]

support supps would incude a complete body cleanse where i will fast for a week straight and take a large detox stack like milk thistle,licorice root,and a crap load of other cleansing products. and for post cycle i have used 6 oxo, novadex, with combination with a transdermal solution

edite: the cleanse continues on after for about a mounth or so

[stl123]

support supps would incude a complete body cleanse where i will fast for a week straight and take a large detox stack like milk thistle,licorice root,and a crap load of other cleansing products. and for post cycle i have used 6 oxo, novadex, with combination with a transdermal solution

Do you take any thing On Cycle to combat high blood pressure, prostate enlargement, or liver protectants anything like that. What you mentioned seems like stuff you would take post cycle (and not work IMO). Have you ever had blood work done to see what is going on with your body after those cycles. I would highly recommend it after all of those cycles.

You do know that most of those PH's are basically oral steroids right? Some of them you have done are pretty hardcore even for a seasoned PH user not to mention a 18-20yr old.

By novadex, do you mean novedex xt by gaspari or Nolvadex (which is a SERM). They are two different things.

PS
Fasting is not something you want to do during PCT if you are wanting to keep your gains.

[bigcountry19]

yes on cycle i use hawthorn, fish oil, NAC,either cranberry juice every day or in capsule form,fiber supp like metimusil, and so on and so forth sorry im going through my old not books to find everything thats why its taking me so long

[stl123]

yes on cycle i use hawthorn, fish oil, NAC,either cranberry juice every day or in capsule form,fiber supp like metimusil, and so on and so forth sorry im going through my old not books to find everything thats why its taking me so long

Take your time. I am just trying to better understand your situation.

[boxmeman]

[stl123]

Finally we have some second opinions in here. 74 views and only two people have posted here.

Bigcountry. If you would get 100% negative feedback on this cycle, would you consider aborting it or not.

[bigcountry19]

no i wouldnt, why do you think i would