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    I just finished a 35 day Junglewarfar, Anabolic Pump, Pslin bulk cycle. I put on 10lbs, from 220lbs to 230lbs. 10lbs in 35 days means I have a lot of fat to cut away. During this bulk cycle I was lifting for maximal hypertrophy, higher volume, lower intensity.

    I've transitioned into my strength phase, high intensity, lower volume, but at the same time, I'm in a fat cutting phase too. These two happened to coincide at this point in time, I wouldn't normally plan it like this, but this is the situation.

    I need to cut fat from my bulk cycle, but I'm also in a maximal strength phase.

    These are my supps:
    For Strength and Also Weight Loss
    - RPM
    - DRIVE
    - Anabolic Pump
    - Pslin

    Strictly for Weight loss and Diet Control
    - DCP
    - Yohimbine HCL
    ( Guggoblic Extreme) removed at Day 4
    - Sesamin Oil
    - Fish Oil
    - Lipotrophin-PM
    - Venom Lean Dreams (to replace Gugg Xtreme)

    I'm currently 230lbs, 20% bf. Long term goal is to reach 200-210lbs, 12-15% bf, while at the same time, gaining strength. Short term goal, losing 1-3lbs a week.
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    Day 1


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    BIís, with an emphasis on brachioradialus
    My current cardio level is really low. I havenít done any cardio since the summer, when I weighed 197lbs and it shows (I did two bulk cycles in a row by the way, which is how I ended up at 230lbs). I started my workout with 20 min on the stairclimber at 5 speed. I only made it to 13 min.

    Alternating Db Hammer Curls
    60lbs x 8 reps
    65lbs x 6 reps
    70lbs x 5 reps

    Concentrated Hammer Curls
    40lbs x 8 reps
    45lbs x 7 reps
    50lbs x 6 reps

    Free Weight Loaded Preacher Curl Machine, using a rope instead of the standard machine grip
    70lbs x 8 reps
    80lbs x 6 reps
    90lbs x 5 reps

    EZ Bar Reverse curls
    90lbs x 8 reps
    100lbs x 6 reps
    110lbs x 5 reps

    Preacher Barbell Reverse Wrist Curls
    55lbs x 8 reps
    65lbs x 6 reps
    75lbs x 5 reps

    Db Reverse Wrist Curls
    40lbs x 8 reps
    45lbs x 8 reps
    50lbs x 6 reps


    RPM IS THE TRUTH!!!
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    Day 2
    Chest
    Started with the stairclimber. I only set it on 15 min at 5 speed and I actually completed it. I expect to see my cardio coming back little by little.

    I felt hypoglycemic into my first set of bench presses. I didn't eat enough carbs prior to working out. Anabolic Pump will do that to you, but I'm sure this was primarily perpetuated by the cardio I did. I know it isn't much, but for my "CURRENT" shape, it is. I bought a gatoraid to fix this issue.


    Flat Bench
    275lbs x 8 reps
    295lbs x 6 reps
    295lbs x 5 reps

    Smith Incline Press
    225lbs x 8 reps
    245lbs x 6 reps
    265lbs x 5 reps

    Weighted Dips
    70lbs x 8 reps
    80lbs x 6 reps
    90lbs x 5 reps

    Hammer Wide Chest Press
    320lbs x 8 reps
    360lbs x 6 reps
    410lbs x 5 reps (4 and a Ĺ actually)

    Free Weight Loaded Tricep Machine
    270lbs x 8 reps
    290lbs x 6 reps
    310lbs x 5 reps

    Incline Machine Press
    225lbs x 8 reps
    245lbs x 6 reps
    265lbs x 5 reps


    RPM IS STILL THE TRUTH
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    Good luck bro, I am going to follow to see how you are doing, as I will be cutting shortly myself and was looking at adding pslin and AP to my arsenal.

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    Daily Intake


    My current daily intake is:
    8 caps RPM
    6 caps Drive
    6 caps Yohimbine HCL (boosting up to 8 starting tomorrow)
    (6 caps Gugglebolic Extreme) removed at Day 4
    6-8 caps DCP
    3-4 caps Anabolic Pump
    1 cap Pslin
    12 cap 1000mg Fish Oil
    7.5 ml Sesamin Oil
    3 caps Lipotrophin-PM
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    why the Guggoblic Extreme, im assuming you have read about Guggulsterones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    My current daily intake is:
    8 caps RPM
    6 caps Drive
    6 caps Yohimbine HCL (boosting up to 8 starting tomorrow)
    6 caps Gugglebolic Extreme
    6-8 caps DCP
    3-4 caps Anabolic Pump
    1 cap Pslin
    12 cap 1000mg Fish Oil
    7.5 ml Sesamin Oil
    3 caps Lipotrophin-PM
    Damn 8 rpm, do you take them all pre-workout at one dose? Are you a little bit more stim resistant (or use them often) or do you just prefer to up the dose (I would say mega dose but you are a big guy...)
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    subbed, my current supplements are very similar to yours so it will be interesting to see how it works for someone else. on a side note i take 6 rpm pre-workout and find that i may bump it up. how do you find that 8 works for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    Damn 8 rpm, do you take them all pre-workout at one dose? Are you a little bit more stim resistant (or use them often) or do you just prefer to up the dose (I would say mega dose but you are a big guy...)
    No, 3 RPM in the morning, 2RPM midday and 3RPM pre-workout. My dose schedule looks like this:

    First thing in the morning
    3 RPM
    3 DRIVE
    3 Yohimbine HCL
    2 DCP
    1 AP

    30 min - 45 min later I eat breakfast.
    POST MEAL
    2.5ml Sesamin Oil
    x4 dose Fish Oil
    2 gugglebolic Extreme

    Pre-Lunch
    2 RPM
    3 Yohimbine HCL
    2 DCP
    1 AP

    45min - 1 hour later I eat lunch.

    POST MEAL
    2.5ml Sesamin Oil
    x4 dose Fish Oil
    2 gugglebolic Extreme

    PRE-WORKOUT
    3 RPM
    3 DRIVE
    3 Yohimbine HCL
    2 DCP
    1 AP

    30min - 45 hour later I eat PRE-WORKOUT MEAL.

    POST MEAL
    2.5ml Sesamin Oil
    x4 dose Fish Oil
    2 gugglebolic Extreme

    POST WORKOUT
    1 AP
    1 Pslin
    2 DCP

    15min - 20 min later
    Post workout meal

    Before Bed
    3 Lipotrophin-PM

    Only thing that changes is the amount of RPM and I only take Drive first thing in the morning and pre-workout.
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    dang thats some nice strength you got going right now...i think you should easily gain strength while leaning out on this stack if you keep everything on track, good luck i will be following
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    why the Guggoblic Extreme, im assuming you have read about Guggulsterones?
    Yes and No. I've read what it's suppose to do.


    "Although the majority of studies on guggulipid have been on its cholesterol lowering ability, it has also been identified as a weight loss agent. It activates lipolytic enzymes (1) and increases T3 levels, presumably due to increased conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver, although it may also stimulate the thyroid directly (2).

    Quite a few studies have been done on both humans and animals accessing guggul's ability to stimulate fat loss. Animal studies have shown a positive effect (2, 3), and human studies have either shown a benefit or have been equivocal (3). Unfortunately, many of these studies were inadequately controlled. A study that controlled for BMI, concurrent drug use, diet, and exercise found that people who took guggul lost 1.92 kg after 15 days compared with .32 kg in the control group (3).

    As stated, orally administered guggulipid increases T3 (tryiidothyronine) levels in animal models. T3 is the conversion product of T4, which is produced by the thyroid gland. Thyroid hormone levels are intricately involved in metabolic homeostasis. Increased thyroid levels cause more fat to be burned and decreased levels increase the likelihood of fat being stored. When one normally goes on a diet, the body responds by decreasing T3 levels and thus decreasing metabolic rate. But if T3 levels are increased, diets are much more effective at causing fat loss (4). It has not been established how guggulipid increases T3 levels, but the prevailing theory is that it is by decreasing lipid peroxidation (2)."



    I've checked board discussions on here and at bb.com and I hear back and forth, pro and oppose to the use of guggles. I added it because I wanted an additional non-stim fat burner. Feel free to enlighten me on your opinions of this supplement. From what I've read, I have not been convinced that it is a "bad" product, but I'm open and interested in your personal knowledge on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    dang thats some nice strength you got going right now...i think you should easily gain strength while leaning out on this stack if you keep everything on track, good luck i will be following
    Thanks, I'm reinvigorated in my lifting. I've been lifting high volume, low intensity for about 6 months and it's become very physically redundant and mentally monotonous, so going high intensity felt GREAT.

    The circulating testosterone exerted from heavy lifts makes me feel like a beast, I really missed that.


    I give myself two weeks to see where my strength is REALLY at, once I make all the neural re-adaption(s) to high intensity exercises. Increased neuron firing rate, increased motor unit muscle recruitment, coordination of motor unit firing... but I was really pleased with where I was at for my first day back at going heavy.
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    The most important thing to a goal such as this to have a mild kcal deficit. I have been doing this for a little over a year now and my number are higher now then they were when I had about 12 more lbs of fat on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    The most important thing to a goal such as this to have a mild kcal deficit. I have been doing this for a little over a year now and my number are higher now then they were when I had about 12 more lbs of fat on me.
    I agree. You've mentioned having a lifestyle diet rather then a phase or cycle diet, which has been my philosophy for many years now. I'm choosing cleaner foods in general, but my over all kcals are being adjusted in a progressively decreasing manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    No, 3 RPM in the morning, 2RPM midday and 3RPM pre-workout. My dose schedule looks like this:

    First thing in the morning
    3 RPM
    3 DRIVE
    3 Yohimbine HCL
    2 DCP
    1 AP

    30 min - 45 min later I eat breakfast.
    POST MEAL
    2.5ml Sesamin Oil
    x4 dose Fish Oil
    2 gugglebolic Extreme

    Pre-Lunch
    2 RPM
    3 Yohimbine HCL
    2 DCP
    1 AP

    45min - 1 hour later I eat lunch.

    POST MEAL
    2.5ml Sesamin Oil
    x4 dose Fish Oil
    2 gugglebolic Extreme

    PRE-WORKOUT
    3 RPM
    3 DRIVE
    3 Yohimbine HCL
    2 DCP
    1 AP

    30min - 45 hour later I eat PRE-WORKOUT MEAL.

    POST MEAL
    2.5ml Sesamin Oil
    x4 dose Fish Oil
    2 gugglebolic Extreme

    POST WORKOUT
    1 AP
    1 Pslin
    2 DCP

    15min - 20 min later
    Post workout meal

    Before Bed
    3 Lipotrophin-PM

    Only thing that changes is the amount of RPM and I only take Drive first thing in the morning and pre-workout.
    Looks good man. I was thinking you should throw some Reset Ad if you needed 8 caps at once lol. Side question; what time do you work out and if its late do you notice RPM keeping you awake or do the Lipo-PM take care of that?

    I also agree when you guys talk about a lifestyle diet as opposed to a cutting/bulking phase. I've been doing the cutting/bulking phases and have come to dislike it. Getting to a certain bf% and staying there is certainly possible while gaining muscle and training like an anima (1 last "cut" phase them I'm done with it.) Gonna follow along on this because I'm intrigued as to whats going to happen with your lifts with this type of diet and supplementation. Best of luck brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    Looks good man. I was thinking you should throw some Reset Ad if you needed 8 caps at once lol. Side question; what time do you work out and if its late do you notice RPM keeping you awake or do the Lipo-PM take care of that?

    I also agree when you guys talk about a lifestyle diet as opposed to a cutting/bulking phase. I've been doing the cutting/bulking phases and have come to dislike it. Getting to a certain bf% and staying there is certainly possible while gaining muscle and training like an anima (1 last "cut" phase them I'm done with it.) Gonna follow along on this because I'm intrigued as to whats going to happen with your lifts with this type of diet and supplementation. Best of luck brother.
    I do have Rest AD on stand by I'm very stim tolerant as is and I adapt very quickly to stims. I suspect I'll be feeling a much lesser stim effect from RPM in 2-3 weeks, which has been the trend in the past for me.

    I workout at 5:30-6:00pm everyday. I take my RPM no later then 4:30pm.

    This is what I've discovered about RPM. My workout partner took 4 RPM's at 5:00pm (he's 240lbs) and was up shadow boxing at 3:30am (seriously). I myself have had to resort to Tylenol PM in the past to fight off the insomnia from taking RPM so late in the day.

    However, because I'm dosing RPM throughout the day, by the time it hits 10:00-10:30pm, my body has become thrashed and crashed from being moderately stimulated all day, so I sleep okay.

    I'm also curious about my strength progress. My true strength at 230lbs will emerge in about 2 weeks, once I've made all the neural adaption(s) to high intensity exercises. Although I'll probably be 3-4lbs lighter in two weeks, but I don't think that will make a significant difference in strength change.

    From that point of my current peak strength at 227-230lbs, as I drop into the 220's to 2-teens, I intend to see my strength continuing to climb.

    For the record, my RPM will without a doubt run out before my DRIVE and I will still want a foundational STIM product in my stack. Once my RPM runs out I will be subbing in USPLabs new RECREATE and of course I'll note that in my log when I make that transition.

    Once my DRIVE runs dry, the only potential strength supps I'll have in my arsenal will be my AP/Pslin.

    (I have a bottle of X-factor and another bottle of Jungle Warfare to potentially replace my DRIVE if need be, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Maybe I'll ask you guys what you'd want to see).

    We'll see how this all turns out eh. One step at a time.
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    If I can get my hands on a digital camera I'll make an effort to get before pics and maybe pics every loss of 5 or 10lbs. I'll see what I can do.
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    Day 3


    Day 3

    BIG BAD BACK

    I saved cardio for the end of the workout. It's the Dead Lifters Code... not really, but I did wait until the end.

    DEAD LIFTS
    405lbs x 8 reps
    455lbs x 5 reps (personal best)
    465lbs x 4 reps (personal best)

    Weighted, Neutral Grip Pull Ups
    bodyweight + 25lbs x 8 reps
    bodyweight + 45lbs x 6 reps
    body weight + 70lbs x 5 reps

    Incline Bench, Double Db Rows
    105lbs Db's x 8 reps
    110lbs Db's x 6 reps
    115lbs Db's x 5 reps

    Machine Rows
    250lbs x 8 reps
    270lbs x 6 reps
    290lbs x 6 reps

    I cannot tell you how trashed I felt at the end of the workout. I dragged myself kicking & screaming to do 15 min of stairclimber at level 6 speed.
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    Sounds saucy. Did you use straps or chalk during this session?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Sounds saucy. Did you use straps or chalk during this session?
    Straps, my gym doesn't look too kindly on chalk.

    If I were able to hold and pull 465lbs for multiple reps with my raw grip, I'd go find Popeye and slap him.

    I "hear" single reps are plausible to hold heavy, heavy loads with a raw grip, but I've never tried it. However, I am a huge advocate of forearm (flexors, extensors and brachioradialus) development and strength, so they are up to par, but I've never tried Dead Lifting without straps before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Straps, my gym doesn't look too kindly on chalk.

    If I were able to hold and pull 465lbs for multiple reps with my raw grip, I'd go find Popeye and slap him.

    I "hear" single reps are plausible to hold heavy, heavy loads with a raw grip, but I've never tried it. However, I am a huge advocate of forearm (flexors, extensors and brachioradialus) development and strength, so they are up to par, but I've never tried Dead Lifting without straps before.
    I like to use chalk during back training. My grip is much weaker than my pulling strength, so I end up using straps during my working sets. My hands also sweat a ton while training.1
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    Day 4


    DOMS city USA. I haven't been this sore in a long, long time. My chest is ripped apart and my back is worse, from traps to spinal erectors. Damn I miss this.

    I foresee this as my rest day, and by rest I mean I will do some cardio only and not lift until tomorrow.

    Still working on those pics.

    Our Law Firm has a digital camera that we all use to take pictures of property damage on vehicles or client's injuries. I suppose I could technically use that, but then my pictures would be accessible to all and that has some serious awkwardness potential.

    I'm definitely not going out and buying a digital camera for this sole purpose, so the Firm's general camera might be it if push comes to shove.

    I've been in discussion about the use of Gugglebolic Extreme and I believe I may have been convinced to remove it from my stack, starting today.

    P.S. Can anyone suggest another effective non-stim to take it's place???
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I agree. You've mentioned having a lifestyle diet rather then a phase or cycle diet, which has been my philosophy for many years now. I'm choosing cleaner foods in general, but my over all kcals are being adjusted in a progressively decreasing manner.
    over a year of that now for me, but its finally really truly built in behavior, I'm not even interested in most of the things I used to be foodwise. Except freakin lobster bisque, man I still have an urge for that somehow
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    over a year of that now for me, but its finally really truly built in behavior, I'm not even interested in most of the things I used to be foodwise. Except freakin lobster bisque, man I still have an urge for that somehow
    I've never had the pleasure of trying that... mmmmmm....
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    I've made the trade with Gugglebolic Extreme for Venom Lean Dreams. Therefore, my current Stack is this:

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    - Anabolic Pump/Pslin

    - Yohimbine HCL
    - DCP
    - x2 dose Sesamine Oil
    - x4 dose Fish Oil

    - Lipotrophin-PM
    - Venom Lean Dreams (pending arrival)


    If I am fully convinced without reservations, that I should indefinitely remove Gugglebolic Extreme from my Stack, then I'll probably give away my two bottles to whoever is willing to take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I've made the trade with Gugglebolic Extreme for Venom Lean Dreams. Therefore, my current Stack is this:

    - DRIVE/RPM
    - Anabolic Pump/Pslin

    - Yohimbine HCL
    - DCP
    - x2 dose Sesamine Oil
    - x4 dose Fish Oil

    - Lipotrophin-PM
    - Venom Lean Dreams (pending arrival)


    If I am fully convinced without reservations, that I should indefinitely remove Gugglebolic Extreme from my Stack, then I'll probably give away my two bottles to whoever is willing to take it.
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    Day 4


    I did 20 min of intervals on the stairclimber at level 8. It KILLED my out of shape @$$, but it feels good to be taking cardio serious again. I'm happier when I'm leaning, then when I'm bulking and I have more fun when my lifts are high intensity rather then high volume. Therefore, everything is all good right on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeakPoint View Post
    Subbed. Man your taking in a whole whack load of pills everyday eh. Your like my grandpa.
    Thats what my roommate tells me. But they're spread out nicely throughout the day.

    And it would be AWESOME if Medicare covered the cost of my supps!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    good choice
    Thanks to you warbird. You raised my initial "serious" concern about looking into the situation. I couldn't find any threads that were very convincing regarding the Guggles issue, so I PM'd all the knowledgeable people who's opinons I trust and respect, Rodja, Strategicmove, Easy and Sean helped me with sources, so I appreciate the initial kick in the @$$
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    Day 5


    This morning I took my ten hour fasted/dehydrated state weight and I was 227.2lbs. I believe this would be my most accurate reading.

    I was probably 230lbs full of water/food and what else, so my offical starting weight bone dry is 227.2lbs, 20-22% bf. I've taken all three measurements of bf%, BIA, Calipers, Hydrostatic and they all toggle between 20-22%.

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    Day 5


    Preface: I stated earlier that I would give myself one to two weeks to reach my full "neuromuscular" potential, and today was a good case of the wonders of neural adaption. My hammer's went sky high just since Monday. I believe as far as hammer curls goes, today's numbers will be an official strength marker (as I believe my neural adaption(s) have set in) and we will see if these numbers go up or down as I cut weight.

    I began my workout with 35 min of intervals on the Stair-Stepper at level 6.

    Bi's

    Alternating Db Curls
    60lbs x 10 reps (+ 2 reps since Monday; Day 1)
    65lbs x 8 reps (+ 2 reps since Monday; Day 1)
    70bs x 6 reps (+1 rep since Monday; Day 1)
    75lbs x 4 reps (+ 5lbs & 4 reps since Monday; Day 1)

    Vertical Preacher, Single Arm Db Curls
    45lbs x 8 reps
    50lbs x 6 reps
    55lbs x 5 reps

    EZ Bar Curls
    90lbs x 8 reps
    100lbs x 5 reps
    110lbs x 5 reps

    Free Weight Loaded, Preacher Curl Machine
    70lbs x 8 reps
    90lbs x 6 reps
    115lbs x 4 reps

    Standing, Double Cable Curls
    100lbs x 8 reps
    120lbs x 6 reps
    140lbs x 4 reps

    Behind the Back, Wrist Curls
    185lbs x 8 reps + static contraction until failure
    185lbs x 6 reps + static contraction until failure

    My cardio felt good today, I can feel it slowly picking up. On Monday I couldn't finish 15 min of the Stairclimber to save my life and today I was able to do 35 min on the stair-stepper.
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    Day 6

    40 min of intervals on stair-stepper at intensity level 6, 5, 4.

    I forgot to mention, my staple post-workout shake consists of
    - 60g Whey
    - 5g bulk BCAA
    - 5g bulk Leucine
    - 30-60 WMS (depending on the intensity and muscle group worked during the workout and depending on any existing DOMS)

    - And a solid meal.
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    Day 7

    REST (but still some early morning, pre-breakfast moderate cardio)

    4 laps + MIIT (moderate intensity interval training )

    3 sets of 50 yard High Knees
    3 sets of 50 yard Butt Kickers
    3 sets of 50 yard, there & back side steps


    Picture Situation:
    I managed to get some before pics. However, the last time I saw myself in body pics was when I weighed a lean 197lbs, seeing myself at 230lbs was a bit shocking. I had no idea how much definition and shape I'd lost, so I'll probably wait and post a before along with the after or at least a more progressed current pics. Nothing against powerlifters (all the respect in the world), but I look much more like a powerlifter then someone who bodybuilds right now.
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    Day 8


    My Venom Lean Dreams came in today, so I'll be adding that to the stack starting tonight.

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    x2 dose Sesamin Oil/x4 dose Fish Oil

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    Venom Lean Dreams

    Day 8
    Bis (emphasis on brachioradialus)

    Began with 20 min of intervals on stairclimber, level 6,7,8

    Alternating Hammer Curls
    65lbs x 10 reps
    70lbs x 8 reps
    75lbs x 5 reps (+1 rep)

    Concentrated Hammer Curls
    50lbs x 8 reps
    55lbs x 6 reps
    60lbs x 6 reps

    EZ Bar Reverse Curls
    90lbs x 8 reps
    100lbs x 6 reps
    110lbs x 6 reps

    Free Weight Loaded, Machine Preacher Curl (Using Rope)
    90lbs x 5 reps (too heavy for 1st set)
    65lbs x 8 reps
    75lbs x 6 reps

    Felt great today.
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    Lightbulb Fat Down, Strength Up


    I just weighed myself again this morning and I was 225lbs.

    Here is a glance at my current fat loss to strength progression.

    Day 1 weighing at 230lbs
    Db Hammer Curls
    60lbs x 8 reps
    65lbs x 6 reps
    70lbs x 5 reps

    Day 5 weighing at 227lbs
    Db Hammer Curls
    60lbs x 10 reps
    65lbs x 8 reps
    70lbs x 6 reps
    75lbs x 4 reps

    Day 8 weighing at 225lbs (my current weight)
    65lbs x 10 reps
    70lbs x 8 reps
    75lbs x 5 reps

    Conclusion: It is my opinion that my strength wasn't legitimately at it's potential until Day 5, where my neural re-adaption(s) were finally set in. By Day 5 I'd ran my entire body through the high intensity program, so my central nervous system had some time to re-stimulate, re-excite and adapt my neuromuscular aspects to the demands of the new stimulus.

    It is my opinion that my loss of weight from 230lbs to 227lbs was primarily water weight, as I'd just began to incorporate cardio back into my workout. I've previously weighed a solid 227lbs after fasting and dehydration and most likely 227lbs has been my actual weight all along (even though I've weighed 230lbs for the past two months each time I hit the scale).

    I believe my current weight of 225lbs, from Day 1 to Day 9 is a solid 2lbs loss of fat mass. Currently, with all neural re-adaption(s) aside and now attempting to achieve neural super-compensation, the trend is, FAT down, STRENGTH up.

    My daily caloric intake has not decreased dramatically. I'm still maintain the same "bottom line" amount of daily caloric intake, but my choice of foods are much cleaner and I'm eating smaller portions, more often through the day (about 5-6 meals).
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    Good detail man, keep up the good work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbono731 View Post
    Good detail man, keep up the good work!
    Thanks. I'm suspecting that my gains will start to slow down as my weight decreases, but I'm giving a 100% at this.
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