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Old 01-16-2008, 07:23 PM   #1
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Arginine Ethyl Ester vs AAKG Powder vs arginie

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Old 01-31-2008, 12:50 PM   #2
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Like creatine, arginine bonded to any of the Krebs Cycle intermediate such as citrate, fumarate, malate, succinate, and alpha ketoglutarate, or compounds involved indirectly in the energy cycle, for instance, orotate, pyruvate, and so on, yields improved absorption, bioavailability, and potency.

Consequently, I would prefer arginine alpha ketoglutarate. You will get all the endothelial-lining-support and vasoldilation properties of arginine plus a number of cool benefits of alpha ketoglutarate (AKG), such as more arginine stability, bioavailability and absorption. Furthermore, alpha ketoglutarate will serve as a transport medium for arginine, making it directly available at the cellular levels for optimal synthesis. Beyond this, alpha ketoglutarate improves the endogenous production of of glutamine and glutamic acid, both important for muscle growth and for the immune system. AKG also binds to toxic ammonia in muscle cells, in the liver, and in the brain, thereby converting ammonia into glutamic acid, improving glutamine levels and assisting in elimination of toxic ammonia from the body. Lastly, as a Krebs Cycle intermediate, AKG improves VO2 Max and energy metabolism in muscle cells, and is consequently a potent ergogenic.

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Like creatine, arginine bonded to any of the Krebs Cycle intermediate such as citrate, fumarate, malate, succinate, and alpha ketoglutarate, or compounds involved indirectly in the energy cycle, for instance, orotate, pyruvate, and so on, yields improved absorption, bioavailability, and potency.

Consequently, I would prefer arginine alpha ketoglutarate. You will get all the endothelial-lining-support and vasoldilation properties of arginine plus a number of cool benefits of alpha ketoglutarate (AKG), such as more arginine stability, bioavailability and absorption. Furthermore, alpha ketoglutarate will serve as a transport medium for arginine, making it directly available at the cellular levels for optimal synthesis. Beyond this, alpha ketoglutarate improves the endogenous production of of glutamine and glutamic acid, both important for muscle growth and for the immune system. AKG also binds to toxic ammonia in muscle cells, in the liver, and in the brain, thereby converting ammonia into glutamic acid, improving glutamine levels and assisting in elimination of toxic ammonia from the body. Lastly, as a Krebs Cycle intermediate, AKG improves VO2 Max and energy metabolism in muscle cells, and is consequently a potent ergogenic.

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Doage For Plain Argine Is 5-10g

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I also prefer AAKG, but mostly because I don't get any side effects. AEE just plain tastes nasty and straight arginine gives me upset stomach/nausea at workable dosage.
 



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i rember CEE taste like battery acid
 



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Doage For Plain Argine Is 5-10g

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Plain arginine has the property that it's absorption through the intestines is limited, causing arginine to be rapidly degraded, leaving only small quantities to produce the typical arginine effects. This is why you need to consume relatively more base arginine to see any results.
Esterification (as in arginine ethyl ester) or bonding with alpha ketoglutarate (as in arginine alpha ketoglutarate) overcomes the typical arginine limitations, ensuring that arginine absorbs optimally and is available for its ergogenic properties. So, you basically need less of arginine ethyl ester (about 3g per dose) or arginine alpha ketoglutarate, (about 3g per dose) compared to base arginine to produce better results than base arginine.
 



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Good to know cos i just bnought half a kg worth
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