[poopypants]

Background

Alright I’ve been outta the loop for a short while and gonna get this up here to just track my progress and give a general review of Drive and most other supplements I’m taking at the time. I started back in the gym shortly after Christmas being laid off back in august and not being able to afford a membership till now.

I'll pick up the log now although I’ve already seen DRAMATIC results since I’ve been back this past couple weeks starting at 180lbs Christmas day with a nice bit of lower abs oblique and back padding and now being a much more solid 185lbs.

Strength has come back quickly and continues to go up but as a back injury from squatting last week reminded me I need to take it a lil slower since my muscles are obviously getting back to norm much faster then my tendons and ligaments were ready. I picked up some super cissus and am also dosing it currently at 6g's spread out through the day in 3-4 doses. I’m already nearly recovered from the injury now but am still wearing a brace while lifting for added support.

I’ve also got a workout partner now when I previously always worked out by myself and attribute much of the progress to that since I have been able to push beyond failure on every set with assisted reps and we are at the same approx strength level so we do very well at keeping each other motivated and continue pushing it higher and harder each time we start the same muscle group again. I’ve been very VERY happy with the added recovery I’ve been able to get with Drive and how fast strength has come back.

Just this last week I’ve also added an additional 100mg of 20%forslean that I take with my nightly dose of 1-carboxy for night time fat loss and preventative measures for catabolism while I sleep, which has been absolutely great with vivid dreams as well. 1-carboxy is def the good part of powerfull IMO.

I’ve been on a bulking diet since I’ve started as well and although at first it was hard to get back to taking in so many cals I’ve quickly become accustomed to it again and am happy to see I am not putting on any extra fat either.

So I'll go ahead and break down where I stand now with stats routine and diet and will add pictures tomorrow and weights lifted will be updated next time I go and then progress will continue to be tracked thereafter.

I also forgot to mention this week I started taking Pslin preworkout and with my morning meal on off days with the proper 60-100g's of carbs.


Current Stats

Age: 23 (24 on the 22nd)
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 185.5lbs
BF%: ??? prob low teens maybe I can get an estimate from guys who may know from the pics tomorrow.

Current Routine

Monday
Chest/tri
DB press 4x10
Decline DB Press 4x10
incline DB press 4x10
seated machined flys 4x10
Rope pulldowns 4x10
reverse grip pulldown 4x10
press down 4x10
seated BB skullcrusher 3x10

Tuesday
Back/Bi
BB lat pull down 4x10
hammer strength iso pulsdowns 4x10
seated rows 4x10
Upright Rows 4x10
DB Curls 3x10
BB reverse grip curl 3x10
Cable curls 3x10

Wednesday
Off

Thursday
Legs
Squats 4x10 (not doing these for now till back is 100%)
leg curls 4x10
leg raises 4x10
leg press followed by calf presses 4x10/15

Friday
Shoulders
arnold press 4x10
lateral raises 4x10
shoulder press 4x10
Shrugs 4x10
Standing(or laying backwards on high incline)DB row 4x10

Saturday
Off or sometimes fill in w/o for arms or boxing class.

Sun
Off


Current Diet

breakfast1
weight gain shake (cal 841)
F 25.5g
C 109g
p 76g

breakfast2
eggs/yogurt&grapenuts (cal 613)
F 15g
C 86g
p 30g

Snack
jerky (cal 81)
F 1g
C 7g
P 11g
OR
Pro Bar (cal 180)
F 6g
C 16g
P 15g

Lunch
Chicken Breast/noodles (cal 363)
F 3g
C 43g
P 41g

pre w/o shake(same as morn shake)
weight gain shake (cal 841)
F 25.5g
C 109g
p 76g

post w/o shake
pro shake (cal 242)
F 5.5g
C 21g
P 57g

Snack
can O tuna (cal 174)
F 2.5g
C 0g
P 38g

Dinner
Steak/chicken/pork and noodles (cal 578/363/466.5)
F 14g/ 3g /10.5g
C 43g/43g/43g
P 64g/41g/60g

night time shake (same as p.w.o.)
pro shake (cal 242)
F 5.5g
C 21g
P 57g

totals
Cal ~3950
F ~93.5g (cal 841.5) ~21%
C ~335g (cal 1340) ~33%
p ~443g (cal 1772) ~44%


Supps and Dosing

Drive- @2-4caps on off days and @5-6caps on w/o days

Creatine Gluconate- @ 2.4g morn pre and post w/o and 2.4g 2X a day on off days

Citrulline Malate- 2.8g morn and preworkout

Beta Alanine- 2g morn and 2g pre/through workout

AEE- 2g morn and preworkout

Super Cissus- ~1400mg morn, pre, post and before bed.

1-Carboxy- 800mg 30min before bed and upon waking

Forskolin (20% forslean)- 100mg nightly

P-slin- taken 15 min before preworkout shake or 15 min before morn shake on off days

Fishoil Caps- 2g with breakfast lunch and dinner.

[MuscleGuyinNY]

I ended up losing a great job last summer (I actually quit due to personal reasons), so I know what it's like not being able to go into the gym. My gym membership ended up expiring. I was miserable. I'm sure it'll feel amazing to be back, though! I'm getting quite anxious. Just waiting to start my new job. I wish you the best of luck and I will be following this. I have a few samples of Drive and eventually plan on purchasing a bottle. I'm getting anxious to use those samples up.

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

I ended up losing a great job last summer (I actually quit due to personal reasons), so I know what it's like not being able to go into the gym. My gym membership ended up expiring. I was miserable. I'm sure it'll feel amazing to be back, though! I'm getting quite anxious. Just waiting to start my new job. I wish you the best of luck and I will be following this. I have a few samples of Drive and eventually plan on purchasing a bottle. I'm getting anxious to use those samples up.

Ya not having a job is depressing, not lifting is even worse as its a huge outlet and the best therapy I've ever had, I'm super stoked to be back and wish you the best in your comeback as well. I had the chance of being a beta tester for drive as well as running it now and I'll tell you its def the strongest natty supp I've ever taken, you will not be dissapointed.

[EasyEJL]

I was going to chant "go poop go" but somehow that sounds wrong

[matthew76]

Im IN!

SuBBeD!

Give it HELL POOP!

[Lanbane]

"Who does #2 work for!!!????"

[bpmartyr]

Originally Posted by Lanbane

"Who does #2 work for!!!????"

"Yeah, that's it! You show that turd who's boss."

[SamBoz19]

I'm for this one as well...should be interesting considering the cult-like popularity your member name attracts....

[Trauma1]

Good luck poops, glad to have you back man!

[poopypants]

Thanks for all the support and following along guys.... time to go hit that iron

[EctoPower]

Welcome back Poop! And good luck!

Subbed.

[macedaddy]

hit the iron, poopster!

[3clipseGT]

Im in this BIAAAATCCHH Poop! Glad to have ya back bruh!

[poopypants]

Thanks again guys! glad to have all my pals followin along, will help keep me true just that much more.

Alright I changed up my routine order and hit shoulders last night and will be hittin legs this evening.

Had a HUUUUUGE pump in my traps after yesterdays workout but I still was a lil dissapointed with the silly lil weights I ws using, although shoulders have never been my strong section.

So heres how it went down.

Arnold press DB- 30lbx10, 35lbx10, 40lbx10
Lateral DB raises- 7.5lbx10(LOL), 10lbx10, 15lbx8
Shoulder press- 70lbx10, 90lbx10, 110lbx10
DB Shrugs- 50lbx10, 60lbx10, 60lbx9
Front cable raises- 15lbx10, 20lbx10, 30lbx10

So again try not to LOL at my weights, my shoulders arent totally underdeveloped casue I have a heavy bench and that works them alot BUT I dont directly hit them enough so the weight they can handle is considerably less then I'd like, not to mention my right shoulder is definately stronger from my old job installing alarms where I was drilling through windouw frames up into attics pressing my drill with only my right arm above my head.... this was the most noticable on the front raises.

Again tonights legs so just gonna eat a meal now and hit the gym in an hour and a half... gonna be legs... another weak part wish me luck.

[matthew76]

That's it POOP!

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by poopypants

Thanks again guys! glad to have all my pals followin along, will help keep me true just that much more.

Alright I changed up my routine order and hit shoulders last night and will be hittin legs this evening.

Had a HUUUUUGE pump in my traps after yesterdays workout but I still was a lil dissapointed with the silly lil weights I ws using, although shoulders have never been my strong section.

So heres how it went down.

Arnold press DB- 30lbx10, 35lbx10, 40lbx10
Lateral DB raises- 7.5lbx10(LOL), 10lbx10, 15lbx8
Shoulder press- 70lbx10, 90lbx10, 110lbx10
DB Shrugs- 50lbx10, 60lbx10, 60lbx9
Front cable raises- 15lbx10, 20lbx10, 30lbx10

So again try not to LOL at my weights, my shoulders arent totally underdeveloped casue I have a heavy bench and that works them alot BUT I dont directly hit them enough so the weight they can handle is considerably less then I'd like, not to mention my right shoulder is definately stronger from my old job installing alarms where I was drilling through windouw frames up into attics pressing my drill with only my right arm above my head.... this was the most noticable on the front raises.

Again tonights legs so just gonna eat a meal now and hit the gym in an hour and a half... gonna be legs... another weak part wish me luck.

We all have our weak points.... ain't no thang!
Use it as fuel to target those delts.

[celc5]

Poop, I like the positive vibe and conversational style you use in your logs. I have to admit that your logging style is a big influence on the way I set up my logs as well.

[thewilman]

I'm in! Good luck Poopy!

[poopypants]

Thanks guys!

N I'll def be hittin those delts alot harder, my bis and tris get pretty big fast (17.5+ back in august) so I def need a nice sized ball to top 'em off and look symmetrical.

Well legs last night actually went much better then I expected given my recent injury but today I'm def feeling it in my calfs and hammies. I was really happy with how much i could still push on leg press (although considering some reading*cough* Lanbane *cough* prob barely warms up with this weight) but I still felt a bit of pressure on my lower back when I'd bring my knees to my chest. All in all still good, heres how it went down.

Leg Press- 180x10, 230x10, 260x10
Leg Extensions- 100x10, 115x10, 130x10, 130x10
Leg curls- 75x13, 105x10, 130x15 controlled +??? till i burned out
Standing calf raises- 120x20, 130x20, 140x18

Again not really impressive but given my situation of being out 6 months and hurting my lower back last time I hit legs I'm pretty happy. I got a really killer pump in my quads and they felt rock hard after the leg extensions but more important then anything else I'm good and sore today wich means it was an effective workout.

I'll be taking measurements later tonight and may get them posted as well if not, tomorrow. Also I'll prob wait to post starting pics cause I dont want to have to upload the software for my digi to my laptop since my PC will be outta the shop soon and I'll prob just wait and post later after I make some improvement with side by side shots for a more dramatic presentation.

[SamBoz19]

Originally Posted by poopypants

Thanks again guys! glad to have all my pals followin along, will help keep me true just that much more.

Alright I changed up my routine order and hit shoulders last night and will be hittin legs this evening.

Had a HUUUUUGE pump in my traps after yesterdays workout but I still was a lil dissapointed with the silly lil weights I ws using, although shoulders have never been my strong section.

So heres how it went down.

Arnold press DB- 30lbx10, 35lbx10, 40lbx10
Lateral DB raises- 7.5lbx10(LOL), 10lbx10, 15lbx8
Shoulder press- 70lbx10, 90lbx10, 110lbx10
DB Shrugs- 50lbx10, 60lbx10, 60lbx9
Front cable raises- 15lbx10, 20lbx10, 30lbx10

So again try not to LOL at my weights, my shoulders arent totally underdeveloped casue I have a heavy bench and that works them alot BUT I dont directly hit them enough so the weight they can handle is considerably less then I'd like, not to mention my right shoulder is definately stronger from my old job installing alarms where I was drilling through windouw frames up into attics pressing my drill with only my right arm above my head.... this was the most noticable on the front raises.

Again tonights legs so just gonna eat a meal now and hit the gym in an hour and a half... gonna be legs... another weak part wish me luck.

No laughing going on here. Everyone one of us has something to work on. Besides, its not about what we think, what matters is what you think! You've addressed you have a weakness...so work at it and turn it into a strength....all it takes is that DRIVE...no pun intended....

[EctoPower]

Originally Posted by poopypants

Thanks guys!

N I'll def be hittin those delts alot harder, my bis and tris get pretty big fast (17.5+ back in august) so I def need a nice sized ball to top 'em off and look symmetrical.

Well legs last night actually went much better then I expected given my recent injury but today I'm def feeling it in my calfs and hammies. I was really happy with how much i could still push on leg press (although considering some reading*cough* Lanbane *cough* prob barely warms up with this weight) but I still felt a bit of pressure on my lower back when I'd bring my knees to my chest. All in all still good, heres how it went down.

Leg Press- 180x10, 230x10, 260x10
Leg Extensions- 100x10, 115x10, 130x10, 130x10
Leg curls- 75x13, 105x10, 130x15 controlled +??? till i burned out
Standing calf raises- 120x20, 130x20, 140x18

Again not really impressive but given my situation of being out 6 months and hurting my lower back last time I hit legs I'm pretty happy. I got a really killer pump in my quads and they felt rock hard after the leg extensions but more important then anything else I'm good and sore today wich means it was an effective workout.

I'll be taking measurements later tonight and may get them posted as well if not, tomorrow. Also I'll prob wait to post starting pics cause I dont want to have to upload the software for my digi to my laptop since my PC will be outta the shop soon and I'll prob just wait and post later after I make some improvement with side by side shots for a more dramatic presentation.

Hey Poop. You're off to a good start man!

I'm battling through a lower back injury as well and I'd like to suggest that when you do leg press, you don't need to go all the way knees to chest. In fact, I think that puts too much pressure on the lower back and doesn't significantly add to how much you can grow your legs. I go down to a spot where my back is still flat and comfortable. It's probably 85-90% of full ROM and I'm able to do a sh*t load of weight with no back problems. I put an inch or so on my thighs this past fall doing that and BB lunges. Nothing else. And while I can't say my back is 100%, I don't feel I made it any worse. So there you go. It bums me out that I can't squat, but if I can keep growing my thighs this way without hurting my back, I'm all for it. Maybe it will work for you.

Keep up the good work! Later.

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by EctoPower

Hey Poop. You're off to a good start man!

I'm battling through a lower back injury as well and I'd like to suggest that when you do leg press, you don't need to go all the way knees to chest. In fact, I think that puts too much pressure on the lower back and doesn't significantly add to how much you can grow your legs. I go down to a spot where my back is still flat and comfortable. It's probably 85-90% of full ROM and I'm able to do a sh*t load of weight with no back problems. I put an inch or so on my thighs this past fall doing that and BB lunges. Nothing else. And while I can't say my back is 100%, I don't feel I made it any worse. So there you go. It bums me out that I can't squat, but if I can keep growing my thighs this way without hurting my back, I'm all for it. Maybe it will work for you.

Keep up the good work! Later.

Thanks Ecto, thats probably the wisest thing to do. If anything I'll make sure to just slow it down concentrate on form or do a lil TUT and see if I cant handle a heavier weight with that smaller ROM. Thanks again for the suggestion

[poopypants]

Alright, didnt get on here yesterday to update my workout and experience so I'll just do yesterdays and todays in one post....

Yesterday I had to go down to Irvine (bout 2 hours away) to pick up a van my freinds giving to me and my wife to use since he had a lot of cars and needs to lessen his insurance bill, a true blessing. But because of that I wasnt able to get in my morning doses (had stayed the night from sun to mon morn) and was'nt able to eat as much as I'd like to, with that said I still weighed myself last night and am up 3lbs to 188 and still was today so hopefully its stickin and not just water weight or the like.

Didnt get into the gym till late last night either since I ate and then started playing Halo 3 and lost track of time so Had to rush in 45 min before it closed and didnt have as good of "fuel" from eating so long ago but still had an ok workout. Heres the nuimbs.

Incline DB press- 40lbsx10, 50x10, 55x10
Decline DB press- 40lbsx10, 45x10, 50x10
Flat DB press- 45lbsx10, 45x10, 45x13 (some guy had the 50's and another set and was switchin between both but keepin the other pair between his feet.... not cool)
Tri press down- 40lbsx10, 60lbsx10 (switched to pulldown) 50x10
Fly machine- 70lbsx10, 90x10, 100x10

and thats all she wrote... cant wait till my numbers start going back up to where they used to be... was pushin 110lb db's on flat and 85lb DB's on incline.... I'll be there soon, gotta wait a lil bit then see if I can run another cycle, I'm sure that'll jump those numbers up.

As for tonights workout for back I was able to hit up the gym with my partner again and felt I had a pretty good workout...

oh but first this morn with my morn dose of Drive I had a large amount of discomfort in my belly and a lil pain, dont know if its from all the forslean or what but I think that coupled with all the air whipped into my shake from the blender just set me up with a recipe for disaster.... I had just finished downing my shake and sat down on my bed and had a bubble in my stomach, so I went to burp and well, my shake is THICK from the full cup of oats 2tbs of PB and then the 35g pro pow on top of that and I guess it hadnt all emptied into my stomach yet cause the air bubble/burp came up and forced shake up with it and as I bolted for the bathroom smashing my knee on the door frame in the process I sprayed projectile shake everywhere into the entrance of my bathroom.... wasnt bad at all, only thing I'd had to eat so it was just the same as goin down 15 seconds earlier but def was a mess to clean up and a waste of protien. So after that I made up a cup o noodles instead and another shake that consisted of only milk and protien powder so there would be no air whipped into it and refilled my belly.... kinda funny kinda sh!tty cause now I got a mean bruise on my left knee.

So like I was gettin to had a good workout tonight with good drive throughout, had a sick pump in the arms and could tell next time I'll have to bump up the weight once again since everything seemed much easier.....

Wide Lat pull down- 90lbsx10, 110x10, 130x10
Iso hammer strength pull downs (under hand grip)- 45lbsx10 (each side), 55x12, 65x13
Seated cable row- 70lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 100lbsx10
DB rows (done sitting backwards on incline bench)- 20lbsx10, 25lbsx13, 25lbsx14
DB curls- 20x10, 25x10, 25x10, 25x7 (plus 5 more assisted for left side)
BB curls reg/reverse grip- 35x10/35x10, 35lbsx10/45lbsx10, 45lbsx10/45lbsx10
cable curls left only- 20lbsx8, 15lbsx11, 15lbsx18

Had really sick pumps in my arms after this workout and they were just hard as rocks, and my damn left arm better be sore as hell tomorrow since I'm trying my hardest to catch it up. It's usually about an inch smaller then right, will do measurements now and get em up.

[poopypants]

Alright heres current measurements, man my arms are way smaller...

r arm- 16
l arm- 15.5
r calf- 16
l calf- 16
r thigh- 24
l thigh- 23
waist- @ belly button 35 @ below obliques (hips) also 35... needs to be less
chest- under armpits 44
shoulders- 49.5

[ugab37]

Go get em poop! U da man! Im excited to see ya log one of our products. Good luck bro

[GotTest]

Glad to see you back at it, Poopster!
Loved your Epi log brother!

I've got a couple bottles of Drive myself that I will be using in post cycle therapy. I've read ZERO negative comments on DRIVE.
Hat's off to A.N.!

...I guess it hadnt all emptied into my stomach yet cause the air bubble/burp came up and forced shake up with it and as I bolted for the bathroom smashing my knee on the door frame in the process I sprayed projectile shake everywhere into the entrance of my bathroom....

Sorry poopster, LMAO on this comment...

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by GotTest

Glad to see you back at it, Poopster!
Loved your Epi log brother!

I've got a couple bottles of Drive myself that I will be using in post cycle therapy. I've read ZERO negative comments on DRIVE.
Hat's off to A.N.!




Sorry poopster, LMAO on this comment...

Well I'll tell you I used only drive and toremifene for a 6 week cycle I had run including dbol in it and got blood 4 weeks into pct showing I had higher range test levels (can link you if you like).... this shii is for real and should work great if you use it for your PCT.

and its all good I didnt post that experience cause I didnt think it was funny myself, LOL.

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by poopypants

Well I'll tell you I used only drive and toremifene for a 6 week cycle I had run including dbol in it and got blood 4 weeks into post cycle therapy showing I had higher range test levels (can link you if you like).... this shii is for real and should work great if you use it for your PCT.

Sounds great!
Your the first one I've heard from who used DRIVE in PCT. It only makes sense to use it in PCT with the Icariin and Forslean in the mix. I was going to take it with Activate Extreme for the Divanil and I3C.

Yeah man, throw out the link I'd love to read it.

[ugab37]

Originally Posted by GotTest

Sounds great!
Your the first one I've heard from who used DRIVE in post cycle therapy. It only makes sense to use it in PCT with the Icariin and Forslean in the mix. I was going to take it with Activate Extreme for the Divanil and I3C.

Yeah man, throw out the link I'd love to read it.

Man, Ive used it too and its amazing. Stack that mofo with Massfx and it will be DYNAMITE! Ill pm you with my total pct layout if ya want. I dont wanna clog up poop's log more than I already have.

[matthew76]

Originally Posted by ugab37

I dont wanna clog up poop's log more than I already have.

LOL!!!!!!