Just got mine today. I will be starting on Monday, 12/31/2007

It is the first time using this type of supplement. Got any advice for this "cherry?"

On a serious note, I have read about turning red or getting blotches on the 1st day. Is there anything ut of the ordinary I should be ready for, or were these some out of the ordinary circumstances?


Thanks!

Originally Posted by CorpKiller

Just got mine today. I will be starting on Monday, 12/31/2007

It is the first time using this type of supplement. Got any advice for this "cherry?"

On a serious note, I have read about turning red or getting blotches on the 1st day. Is there anything ut of the ordinary I should be ready for, or were these some out of the ordinary circumstances?


Thanks!

I have never heard about the turning red issue. That is not a side effect on Reloaded. That would be geared more to high blood pressure than anything else. Thanks for the interest in Leviathan Reloaded.

heyu ever tried Leviathan reloaded??

I have used Leviathan and Levi-R extensively, and never experienced any kind of blotchy redness.

Originally Posted by emioducki

heyu ever tried Leviathan reloaded??

Yes, I just finished a log with it. TripDog's "Leviathan Reloaded", "Somnidren-GH", "ZMK" Log(Sponsored)

Trip is right. The Yohimbine in Leviathan Reloaded can lead to increased blood pressure. On the other hand, the Forskolin (Coleus Forskohlii) in the blend can lower blood pressure due to relaxation of the arterial vascular smooth muscle. These effects may cancel themselves out, though.

Strat, hasn't caffeine been known to cause redness (mostly of the face, edema/itching) in some people? If so, that may be what CorpKiller is referring too.

Originally Posted by Hurleyboy05;

Strat, hasn't caffeine been known to cause redness (mostly of the face, edema/itching) in some people? If so, that may be what CorpKiller is referring too.

Facial flushing can occur as a result of excessive coffee/caffeine consumption. Although "excessive" is relative, my conjecture is that the amount of caffeine in Leviathan Reloaded may not be enough to trigger this effect, except the user is overly sensitive to caffeine or consumes copious amounts of caffeine from other sources.

Originally Posted by strategicmove

Facial flushing can occur as a result of excessive coffee/caffeine consumption. Although "excessive" is relative, my conjecture is that the amount of caffeine in Leviathan Reloaded may not be enough to trigger this effect, except the user is overly sensitive to caffeine or consumes copious amounts of caffeine from other sources.

I agree. I'm just trying to figure out what could possibly cause aforementioned redness. I've never heard about it happening from Lev-R use. Maybe if someone was stacking it with too many other stims it could be a caffeine overload resulting in redness. Who knows...

Originally Posted by Hurleyboy05;

I agree. I'm just trying to figure out what could possibly cause aforementioned redness. I've never heard about it happening from Lev-R use. Maybe if someone was stacking it with too many other stims it could be a caffeine overload resulting in redness. Who knows...

There is, by the way, a condition called rosacea, that manifests itself in the form of facial flushing (facial redness, spots on cheeks and nose). This can be triggered by dilation of blood vessels due to external or internal factors that may include heat, caffeine consumption, stress, and alcohol. If one has this underlying condition, many things can trigger the breakout, probably including elevated thermogenesis.

Yeah, I used to know a girl that would not drink alcohol because she had a mild case of Rosacea. That is probably what whoever experienced redness actually had. I know several people that have minor cases of it, and it is much more pronounced after they have consumed a cup of coffee.

Originally Posted by Hurleyboy05;

Yeah, I used to know a girl that would not drink alcohol because she had a mild case of Rosacea. That is probably what whoever experienced redness actually had. I know several people that have minor cases of it, and it is much more pronounced after they have consumed a cup of coffee.

Yep! Just wanted to say it is not Leviathen-Reloaded specific. Any (caffeine)-stimulant-based product may trigger it, if it is an underlying case of Rosacea. Even taking hot beverages, not necessarily caffeine, can ignite the process.

Myth - BUSTED!

Thanks to all of you who posted. I think I heard something about a niacin (spg?) "flush" type of issue. Maybe I have it mixed up with a diff supplement.

So, I should lay off the Diet Mt. Dew? = Due to caff content?

Originally Posted by CorpKiller

Thanks to all of you who posted. I think I heard something about a niacin (spg?) "flush" type of issue. Maybe I have it mixed up with a diff supplement.

So, I should lay off the Diet Mt. Dew? = Due to caff content?

1) There is no niacin in Leviathan Reloaded, so a niacin flush is not plausible .

2) What is "Diet Mt. Dew"?

3) The facial flushing is a rare thing. No one says you would experience it for sure, except you have Rosacea.

Originally Posted by strategicmove

2) What is "Diet Mt. Dew"?

Are you serious?

Originally Posted by strategicmove

1) There is no niacin in Leviathan Reloaded, so a niacin flush is not plausible .

2) What is "Diet Mt. Dew"?

3) The facial flushing is a rare thing. No one says you would experience it for sure, except you have Rosacea.

Thanks fr clearing that up.

Diet Mountain Dew? Geesh

Originally Posted by TripDog;

Are you serious?

Serious as cancer! Still do not know what it means.

Originally Posted by strategicmove

Serious as cancer! Still do not know what it means.

its soda.....

Originally Posted by john;

its soda.....

Oh! Thanks, John. Could never have guessed!

Originally Posted by john123131

its soda.....

What is this "soda"?

Originally Posted by dsade

What is this "soda"?

pop jerk

Started my LR today. 1 pill this AM and 1 this afternoon 30 mis prior to workout. My routine was back, biceps, legs and abs. I worked up a sweat that was more than normal today. Also, I about 30 mins after my morning dose, I noticed I little bit of a sweat after "get ready for the day" ritual.

Looking forward to this cycle of LR. I mean I really enjoy a good sweat while working out, and I haven't been getting one here lately, but noticed a significant amount today..., one that I usually do not get when doing solely weights and abs. Can't wait for cardio day!!!!

I started yesterday. Hows you energy level? I've felt way more alert in the past day in a half, then I have in months. BTW, are you running DCP with your LevR?

HB05,

My energy level is pretty good. Not using DCP with it yet. $$$ is low after the Christmas Holiday. I've been pretty focused I must say. Not going to the gym today, but will do weights/cardio and abs tomorrow so I hope it will kick in really good when I hit the bike. What about you? How is it going with your cycle?

Originally Posted by CorpKiller

HB05,

My energy level is pretty good. Not using DCP with it yet. $$$ is low after the Christmas Holiday. I've been pretty focused I must say. Not going to the gym today, but will do weights/cardio and abs tomorrow so I hope it will kick in really good when I hit the bike. What about you? How is it going with your cycle?

Everythings great for me CK. I worked arms/shoulders last night, and by the time I was finished, I was drenched! I did a quick 13min cardio jog afterwards, and still had energy when I was done. Really happy so far!

nice, thanks for the updates so far guys

Another good workout, lots of sweat pouring! Cut cardio short due to feeling lightheaded/racing heart. I haven't eaten as well as I should today, so I think the LevR was really kickin' in during my run. Currently sippin' on some whey protein and I'm feeling better. Still 100% happy with LevR/DCP!

Originally Posted by Hurleyboy05

Another good workout, lots of sweat pouring! Cut cardio short due to feeling lightheaded/racing heart. I haven't eaten as well as I should today, so I think the LevR was really kickin' in during my run. Currently sippin' on some whey protein and I'm feeling better. Still 100% happy with LevR/DCP!

HB,
My energy was pretty good today. I did 20 mins on the elliptical, 20 mins on the stationary bike, then did chest. Didn't have time for abs. I was sweating decently, but not like pouring off of me-nothing out of the ordinary. I have increased my water intake. I was kinda zapped myself after the workout though. I think I may order some DCP. I have read that it really makes you sweat "big time" if you take it pre-cardio, is that true? I finished my day three dosage and will up it tomorrow. I did however, have notice a reduction in appetite. :burg:

Thanks for the replies guys!

No problem, anytime John.