Holiday Damage stack--- tring to avoid gaining too much fat

**Zombie** · 12-11-2007, 01:57 PM

Well after being 2 years or alil bit more on supps/ph's (2 superdrol CYCLES, 3AD, POWERFULL, SDNG, RPM,DRIVE, ACTIVATE,REBOUND RELOADED, ALPHA DRIVE XL, LEVIATHAN, MASSFX, HYPERDROLX2, ADVANCED post cycle therapy,IGF-2, NEOVAR, LIPOTROPHIN-PM, CISSUS-RX, SUPER CISSUS, ANABOLIC PUMP and others that i dont recall right now) I decided to take a cleaner supp stack. with out megadosing like i have done in the past.

Last week i got my order that included:

* Green tea caps
* ALA caps
* Sesamin Oil
* NAC
* Nows C-1000 (Vit C)

The main Supplement that im tring to focus more on is DCP, since i have used it in the past and had results with a nasty diet, now that im more in to the getting rid of the fat thing i might do even better than the first time

Today i received 2.5 Bottles from a friend of DCP, i gave the .5 bottle to my cousing thats seems to be intrested on this log as well.
So i have 2 Bottles of DCP withc i already took 3 caps when i got it

This has been my dosing schedule for the first 3 days*

1st thing in the morning
2 GTC
1 ALA cap

While eating breakfast
4gr Fish oil
2ml Sesamin oil

Before lunch
2GTC
1 ALA Cap

after lunch
2ml Sesamin Oil

Pre work out /meal
4gr fish oil

Post workout
1 ALA Cap

Dinner
2GT
2gr Fish oil
2ml Sesamin oil

I had to drop the ALA to only use it Post work out with a big ass protein shake with WMS cause i Go hypo with it if i dont eat fast and i have read this past days several sides of taking alot of ALA. I might do more research on that but just to be safe, im only taking it Post work out before dinner

Now that i have DCP im going to add it my 1st thing in the morning dose of pills then before lunch and Pre workout.

i Still dont know if i s hould add the NAC+ Vit C already or wait till i finish this and just run NAC+Vit C for the hell of it. I might add Activate Xtreme in one week to this stack or maybe i decide to keep it like this.

Feel free to make suggestions

BTW im 5'8" and weight 201
i uploaded a crapy pic i took with my cell phone yesterday at the gym

**Ziricote** · 12-11-2007, 01:59 PM

Looking thick Z, subsribe'D.

**Zombie** · 12-11-2007, 02:00 PM

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Looking thick Z, subsribe'D.

thanks Ziri

**Zombie** · 12-11-2007, 02:19 PM

i forgot to add that this is a non sponsored log, and thanks to crader that asked me if i could log this , since keeping a log is going to kind of preasure me to follow the protocol and dont fall out the wagon(often).

dsade · 12-11-2007, 02:40 PM

Your wagon is looking swole!!

Subbed as well.

crader · 12-11-2007, 02:42 PM

Thanks Z. Looking good in the pics!

**Zombie** · 12-11-2007, 02:43 PM

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Your wagon is looking swole!!

Subbed as well.

i got a question for you . when would you recommend to take the ALA with my preworkout meal(7pm) or postworkout(10pm) ?

dsade · 12-11-2007, 02:45 PM

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i got a question for you . when would you recommend to take the ALA with my preworkout meal(7pm) or postworkout(10pm) ?

Hmm...there is conflicting data. My first urge is to say take it PWO with the majority of your carb spike (assuming that is what you are doing)...but then again we have been looking at anti-oxidant intake too soon after workout.

What time does your workout end?

I would like to play with ALA and Supercarb/Kwik Karb pre and during workout, honestly. You up for guinea pigging?

**Zombie** · 12-11-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dsade

Hmm...there is conflicting data. My first urge is to say take it PWO with the majority of your carb spike (assuming that is what you are doing)...but then again we have been looking at anti-oxidant intake too soon after workout.

What time does your workout end?

I would like to play with ALA and Supercarb/Kwik Karb pre and during workout, honestly. You up for guinea pigging?

my workout end around 10pm.
yesterday i took the ALA just before my last set , then cooled down for 10 min and took a shake(30gr protein/40gr kwik karb) in a couple of minutes(around 15-20) i felt swolen. i was thinking if i could either do the same with a lower dose of ALA(half a cap around 150mg) before workout but taking a shake(15grprotein/30gr kwik karb)
and then taking the other half just preworkout with another shake(30gr protein/40gr kwik karb)

what do you have in mind for the guinea pigging?

dsade · 12-11-2007, 02:57 PM

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my workout end around 10pm.
yesterday i took the ALA just before my last set , then cooled down for 10 min and took a shake(30gr protein/40gr kwik karb) in a couple of minutes(around 15-20) i felt swolen. i was thinking if i could either do the same with a lower dose of ALA(half a cap around 150mg) before workout but taking a shake(15grprotein/30gr kwik karb)
and then taking the other half just preworkout with another shake(30gr protein/40gr kwik karb)

what do you have in mind for the guinea pigging?

I like your plan...and just what I was thinking.

**Rivet** · 12-11-2007, 07:07 PM

I'm lurking here.

dsade · 12-11-2007, 07:10 PM

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I'm lurking here.

You're in my spot.

**Rivet** · 12-11-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dsade

You're in my spot.

Go sit on Craders lap.

crader · 12-11-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivet

Go sit on Craders lap.

No thanks, he can sit on yours!

dsade · 12-11-2007, 07:35 PM

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No thanks, he can sit on yours!

Just be glad I have taken my GUT health.

**Zombie** · 12-12-2007, 12:06 AM

well i tried the prework out thing. i added 6 gr leucine to the protein/wms mix i got bloated and i noticed i been having gas lately really bad gas. . i think that the gas is being cause by the high protein diet im in right now.

I didnt feel like taking a protein shake postworkout cause i was still alil bloated, i took some low fat cottage cheese and a multigrain natty PB sandwich and some fishoil.

**Rivet** · 12-12-2007, 06:06 AM

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well i tried the prework out thing. i added 6 gr leucine to the protein/wms mix i got bloated and i noticed i been having gas lately really bad gas. . i think that the gas is being cause by the high protein diet im in right now.

I didnt feel like taking a protein shake postworkout cause i was still alil bloated, i took some low fat cottage cheese and a multigrain natty PB sandwich and some fishoil.

Maybe you should look into some Digestive Enzymes or even something like Gut Health. I'm thinking of ordering NOW Super Enzymes during my next order. I have the same problem. I cant eat anything without getting very bloated. Its the one thing that makes me hold back when eating.

**Zombie** · 12-12-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivet

Maybe you should look into some Digestive Enzymes or even something like Gut Health. I'm thinking of ordering NOW Super Enzymes during my next order. I have the same problem. I cant eat anything without getting very bloated. Its the one thing that makes me hold back when eating.

i have some gut health laying around some were , im going to look for it.

john123131 · 12-12-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivet

Maybe you should look into some Digestive Enzymes or even something like Gut Health. I'm thinking of ordering NOW Super Enzymes during my next order. I have the same problem. I cant eat anything without getting very bloated. Its the one thing that makes me hold back when eating.

gut health is for you man...really...i had the exact same issue. To be dead honest i think ive been bloated 1 time since ive started gut health (im on my 2nd bottle now). Stuff is awesome

**Rivet** · 12-12-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by john123131

gut health is for you man...really...i had the exact same issue. To be dead honest i think ive been bloated 1 time since ive started gut health (im on my 2nd bottle now). Stuff is awesome

I must have another problem causing my bloating and stomach issues. I took GUT health and it didn't help at all. Hope it can help Zombie however.

**Zombie** · 12-13-2007, 12:38 AM

today i got on the scale and i was 199lbs
i cut down on the Fish Oil and the gas got reduced, and it doesnt stink like it did yesterday and the days before. tomorrow im starting to take some GUT health that i had left over.i have cut calories im not keeping track but i felt it today in the gym. monday im going to start doing cadio. i might start with 10-15 min.

**Rivet** · 12-13-2007, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombie

today i got on the scale and i was 199lbs
i cut down on the Fish Oil and the gas got reduced, and it doesnt stink like it did yesterday and the days before. tomorrow im starting to take some GUT health that i had left over.i have cut calories im not keeping track but i felt it today in the gym. monday im going to start doing cadio. i might start with 10-15 min.

Cut calories AND cardio?

What have you done with Zombie?!?!?!

crader · 12-13-2007, 08:56 AM

Woohooo Zombies on a sexy streak, a new lean mean Z

**Zombie** · 12-13-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivet

Cut calories AND cardio?

What have you done with Zombie?!?!?!

hes dead ! ! ! !

well i dropped the dose of Fish oil and the stinky fats seem to be over i still have gas but it doesnt stink. i also started Gut health.

i also have to mention that im currently taking 9 caps of DCP and i dont get the cramps that some people talk about. and im even thinking on addin 1 more cap preworkout

**Rivet** · 12-13-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombie

hes dead ! ! ! !

well i dropped the dose of Fish oil and the stinky fats seem to be over i still have gas but it doesnt stink. i also started Gut health.

i also have to mention that im currently taking 9 caps of DCP and i dont get the cramps that some people talk about. and im even thinking on addin 1 more cap preworkout

Some people must be extra sensitive to the TTA in DCP. I on the other hand can take grams of the stuff