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The best product ive ever used. I feel like an animal in the gym, lost some unwanted "flab"
noobs replying to noobs, talking about noob products.....:wtf: :wtf: :stick: :stick:Actually, im on my second week, up to 4 capsules a day, and i dont know whats in this stuff but i think its more than epthio!!! Hahahaha!!
I will probably just get on some Trib like test drive when im through.
:toofunny:noobs replying to noobs, talking about noob products.....:wtf: :wtf: :stick: :stick:
Glad you enjoyed it, bro !I ran mine ED, and actually ran it nearly 6 weeks (5 1/2 weeks actually) so I could dose it 10mg/day for 3-4 days so I could see what it was going to do. Ran 4 more weeks at 20mg/day, 30mg/day, 40mg/day, 40mg/day. I can say I made my greatest gains at 30mg/day in both size and strength.
In my case, I didn't have much noticable shut down, but some. Finishing up my post cycle therapy in the next 2 weeks, taking a couple months off and doing it again, except staying at 30mg/day for weeks 3-6.
Its an awesome product (probably the best I've ever taken in the last 13 years) but you still have to take precautions.
Make note where your doses make the best gains. I found that at 30mg was best for me, but at 40mg I noticed no additional gains, but started noticing side effects, most notably loss of libido. 30mg I was an animal, 40mg I had dimished libido.Glad you enjoyed it, bro !
I will be giving Havoc a real go in January myself, @ 30-40mg/day for 4 weeks. Wondering what Epi's 'FULL EFFECTS' really would be on my body .. And when that time comes, I'll be adding in the aforementioned liver/BP/Cholestorol supps, as I'm running it [Havoc] at optimum dosage, and not pussy-footing around . . haha
Glad you enjoyed it, bro !
I will be giving Havoc a real go in January myself, @ 30-40mg/day for 4 weeks. Wondering what Epi's 'FULL EFFECTS' really would be on my body .. And when that time comes, I'll be adding in the aforementioned liver/BP/Cholestorol supps, as I'm running it [Havoc] at optimum dosage, and not pussy-footing around . . haha
Week 6, up 12 ibs, feel great (except for my old ass joints and shoulders, ha ha) pulsing with no ****ing worries! Dhea on off days, topped out at 30mg of havoc. I will be running blood work at the end and I will run a PCT, because why risk your health? Also I am 41, so, despite the fact that I look and feel good, one never knows. Caution beats reckless abandonment every time.I pulsed Epi myself. 3-4 caps/day four days a week (only on work out days)
I had no shutdown, no cramps or back pumps, no acne, no sides PERIOD. Used no liver protectant but I took my fish oils, ALA, and multi vitamin.
So, if ya want to feel a helluva lot better and not have to think about the sides, start pulsing now . . when pulsing, the extra support - RYR, hawthorn berry, etc - isn't a must.
Guys, I am just wondering, how do you determine 30 mgs when one capsule is 20 mg, so do you break it into half ???
BTW, you don't need serm for epistane cycle except if you start at 40 mg for the whole cycle. The first cycle will not be the same as the second cycle so don't expect the same gains always.
Read ur bottle. Serving size = 20 mg......Serving Size also = 2 pills. 10mg per.
Guys, what do you guys think of stacking epi with dbol and test and 10 mg nolva and ATD, arimidex is very expensive and letro has bad side effects, so can epi with nolva and ATD control the water retention and bloatness?
I would be worried to answer your question even if i could but do not know enough about dbol or test to offer a opinion but with you not being sure of the mg per cap of epi it tends to make me think your not ready for any cycle
If youre asking if it would be helpful as an AE, probably, but all the research ive seen in this regard did'nt involve other androgens. I would try to run a true AE. I think it would'nt hurt however to run the Epi however if that is your only option.So none of y'll knows what is dbol and test, epi can help control estrogen along with ATD is that a fair statement or not that is all I need to know.
Which AE?I m running a true AE along with Epi, 10 mg nolva and ATD to control the water retention, bf 15% and would like to add mass without increasing my bf.
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