Diesel PCT

[thestudbeast]

First up this log is not sponsored, really the only logs of value IMO. Second I'm from the U.K so all steriod use has been legal.

I've just been on a Test cycle done at 500mg per week and used D-bol to taper for the last 3 weeks at 40mg per day. Iranian test which was so so and body research d-bol which was sh1t hot. HCG was run at 500 iu twice a week through out cycle.

My post cycle therapy will be as follows:

Serms:
Clomid 50mg day - 3 weeks
Tamoxifen 25mg day - 4weeks

AI:
Aromisin - 20mg day (I suffer from estrogen sides) for the first 10-14 days

Supps:
Nos ether - started 3 days before end of cycle (1 pack)
Diesel test hardcore - started 5 days before end of cycle 1 1/2 packs
Trib test (Get diesels old LH booster) - started 5 days into post cycle therapy
Vit c - 100mg every morning during post cycle therapy
Clenbuterol - 20mcg every morning during PCT
Melatonin - one tab before bed during PCT
St.Johns Wort - one tab before bed during PCT

Get diesel products will be ran at max dose during PCT as per instructions. The last four supps are for reducing cortisol during PCT.

My diet is normaly low carb on all meals except post workout, this will be discussed with Chuck though as NOS Ether contains some nutrient partitioners that may require carbs. In general think a Vince Gironda style diet - High protein, Medium Fat, low carb.

PCT starts monday so so far I'm on my second day of Nos and third day of DTHC, not to much to report and I'll start this log off on tuesday when I'll be suffering from very low androgens

 

[Chuck Diesel]

subtract

 

[ReaperX]

I might watch this log. You make a good point about a product only being worthy of reviewing if it is not sponsored. I rarely subscribed to logs with the exception of a few members b/c 99.999% of them are junk.

 

[thestudbeast]

PCT day 1 - 199lbs

I've decided to just list my med/supps up here not my workouts. I use periodisation and I'm not lifting for strength at the moment and the volume of it will get boring, besides thats what my note pads for. Instead I'll put how work outs went, plus other related factors to PCT.

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 1
Energy: 4
Focus in gym: 5
Aggression: 3
Strength: 8
retained size: 10

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 20mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs (ran for 4 days before on 3 a day)
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and post workout.
During workout shake: vit c, glutamine, lecuine, whey isolate, dextrose
Melotonin and st.johns wort this evening.

Thoughts:

Nos ether made me hungry the first day I took it but no more. Most seem to report a non stim energy but to be honest with how I'm feeling I'm not suprized I felt nothing. The diesel test has yet to kick in. The clenbuterol pick me up in the morning. Even though I didn't feel to great my workout went to plan which has left me a bit happier with a crappy day .

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 2 (WED) - 198lbs

Had a real crappy day at work it carried on for ever and my work is very physical so not what you want on day 2 of PCT.

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 1
Energy: 7 started of well!
Focus in gym: 3
Aggression: 3
Strength: 6
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 20mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and post workout.
During workout shake: vit c, glutamine, lecuine, whey isolate, dextrose
Melotonin and st.johns

Thoughts:

The day started so well but by the time I got to the gym I was already done. This is the second time I've taken diesel test and both times around day 3 of the full dose I get more energy and a sense of well being.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 3 (THURS) - 197lbs

Day off work and gym thank God! Eat loads of calories.

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 6 - started comming back in the evening
Energy: 5 - drained from the day before
Focus in gym: N/A
Aggression: N/A
Strength: N/A
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 20mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 1.5 scoops before lunch, 1 scoop before diner
Melotonin and st.johns

Thoughts:

After 3 weeks of tappering off the test on d-bol I had started to forget what a sex drive was.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 4 (FRI) - 198lbs

Legs, that means squats.

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 9
Energy: 9
Focus in gym: 7
Aggression: 7 - aggression in the gym came back!
Strength: 8
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 20mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and post workout.
During workout shake: vit c, glutamine, lecuine, whey isolate, dextrose
Melotonin and st.johns
T3 - 5mg

Thoughts:

Things are on the up, sex drive back, aggression back, morning wood back........ classic signs of test kicking back in. I still feel like my hormones are all over the place but test is dominant once again. Nothing to report on NOS ether yet.

 

[EasyEJL]

I might watch this log. You make a good point about a product only being worthy of reviewing if it is not sponsored. I rarely subscribed to logs with the exception of a few members b/c 99.999% of them are junk.

Just wondering if that includes your own

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 5 (SAT) - no weight in

Trib test added today (old version), shoulders and arms trained. 8 days on NOS ether and I think it's starting to kick.

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 6
Energy: 9
Focus in gym: 9
Aggression: 9
Strength: 9
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 20mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and post workout.
During workout shake: vit c, glutamine, lecuine, whey isolate, dextrose
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: 2tabs
Finisteride: 1mg - felt a DHT build up so took one, instant sex drive killer!

Thoughts:

Great workout a little stronger than this time last week when I was on 40mg of d-bol. Hormones still all over the place......... body producing too much estrogen, therefore DHT.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 6 (SUN) - 197lbs

off day today and tomorrow

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 7 starting to come back again
Energy: 7
Focus in gym: N/A
Aggression: n/A
Strength: n/a
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 20mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 1 1/2 scoops before meal 1, 1 scoop before meal 3
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: 2tabs


Thoughts:

nothing to add

 

[TripDog]

Do you only use melatonin in pct? Looks good by the way.

 

[thestudbeast]

Do you only use melatonin in post cycle therapy? Looks good by the way.

Ye only in PCT for cortisol control.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day (MON) - 196 1/2lbs -water weight finally gone

off day

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 4 - where's it gone? Prob the clomid
Energy: 9
Focus in gym: N/A
Aggression: n/A
Strength: n/a
retained size: 8 1/2

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 20mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 1 1/2 scoops before meal 1, 1 scoop before meal 3
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: day off


Thoughts:

so much energy but no sex drive!

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 8 (TUES) - 196 1/2lbs

Trained back this mean deadlifts

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 4 - yep it's gone
Energy: 9 buzzing
Focus in gym: 10 holy moly
Aggression: 9
Strength: 9 - up significantly
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 20mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and two post
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: 2tabs
Usual work out shake


Thoughts:

Great strengh, amazing energy and a general good mood but no sex drive............ o well I am in PCT.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 9 (WED) - 198lbs

chest trained, aromisin dose halved.

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 1 - non existant
Energy: 9 still strong
Focus in gym: 10 holy moly
Aggression: 9
Strength: 10 - looks like NOS ether works for me
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 10mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and two post
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: 2tabs
Usual work out shake


Thoughts:

wish I'd bought more than one tub of Ether now.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

post cycle therapy day 9 (WED) - 198lbs

chest trained, aromisin dose halved.

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 1 - non existant
Energy: 9 still strong
Focus in gym: 10 holy moly
Aggression: 9
Strength: 10 - looks like NOS ether works for me
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 10mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and two post
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: 2tabs
Usual work out shake


Thoughts:

wish I'd bought more than one tub of Ether now.

yep NOS ETHER is a good product.

I would reduce ur DTH dosage to 2/1/1 for a while and see if ur libido comes back. I know you are PCT right now, but for some people 6 DTH is 2 much.

 

[thestudbeast]

yep NOS ETHER is a good product.

I would reduce ur DTH dosage to 2/1/1 for a while and see if ur libido comes back. I know you are post cycle therapy right now, but for some people 6 DTH is 2 much.

I've used Diesel test while not in PCT, I'm fine on 6 a day, it's the aromisin and clomid. I've halved the aromisin dose and it's improved dramiticly.

The clomid will keep LH production going even when free test is spiked but will also reduce libido it self. Who'd of thought you need the right amount of estrogen to have a sex drive? But you do.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 10 (THURS) - 196lbs

Off day

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 1 - non existant
Energy: 9 still strong
Focus in gym: n/a
Aggression: n/a
Strength: n/a
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 10mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: off day dosing
Melotonin and st.johns wort
Trib test: 2tabs



Thoughts:

as posted above the aromisin was halved as I feel estrogen levels as getting pushed too low.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 11 (FRI) - 196lbs

squat day

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 7 - coming back
Energy: 5 - first day with less than amazing energy
Focus in gym: 4 - did not want to be there
Aggression: 7
Strength: 7 - stronger but not massivly
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 10mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and two post
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: 2tabs
Usual work out shake


Thoughts:

Well every workout can't be a good one .

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 12 (SAT)

The battery on my scales has died so no weight in's for now. Trained shoulders and arms.

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 7 - coming back
Energy: 7 - so so
Focus in gym: 9
Aggression: 9
Strength: 8 - stronger on every exersize
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 10mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: Took a day off
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and two post
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: 3tabs
Usual work out shake


Thoughts:

Good workout, time to phase out the aromisin. This was the time last cycle I was suffering the most.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 13 (SUN)

off day

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 7 - coming back
Energy: 7 - working 9 days straight at work
Focus in gym: n/a
Aggression: n/a
Strength: n/a
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 10mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 1.5 scoops pre meal one, 1 scoop pre meal 5
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: 2tabs



Thoughts:

My boss is a toss pot for rotering me in for 9 days

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 14 (MON)


Trained back but no deads...... just too tierd

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 8 - it would be really strong if I was'nt so tired
Energy: 5 - working 9 days straight at work
Focus in gym: 7 - still good
Aggression: 4 - not there today
Strength: 9 - up again
retained size: 9

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ aromisin 10mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and post
Melotonin and st.johns
Trib test: day off



Thoughts:

Amazed I'm still making progess because my work is really tough and Monday was 6 days in a row.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 15 (Tues)


off day....... dropped the aromisin for good now.

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 8
Energy: 8 - felt better like I got my second wind
Focus in gym:n/a
Aggression: n/a
Strength: n/a
retained size: 8

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and post
Melotonin and st.johns wort
Trib test: 2 tabs



Thoughts:

I feel like I've lost some muscle fulness and even though I have no scales I'd say I'm down a couple more pounds. Yet all is not doom and gloom, I've lost over a inch on my waist and only a quater inch on my arms. While my calves have grown. So all is not staright forward.

 

[thestudbeast]

post cycle therapy day 16 (Wed)


chest day

Out of 10's

Sex drive: 8
Energy: 5 - was still on day 8 of my 9 day staright at work
Focus in gym: 7
Aggression: 5
Strength: 9
retained size: 8

Meds/supps

Tamoxifen 25mg/clomid 50mg/ clen 20mcg
Diesel test: 6 tabs
Nos Ether: 2 scoops pre and post
Melotonin and st.johns wort
Trib test: 2 tabs



Thoughts:

The progress in the gym is helping with my low feelings but my work is causing them........... o ye being in PCT also. I have to keep telling my self not to make any new decisions during PCT, on anything, my minds a mess.

 

[thestudbeast]

Time for a final reveiw

O.K so been away battling a cold, never quite got it but felt like I would for a while. Time I think to give my thoughts on the products I've used in this PCT.

Diesel Test HC

I think the best qualities of this product are under played and the weakest qualties over played. There is no miracle product for LBM gains on the market that does not interupt the HPTA. But this product does give the following:

Energy: starts day 3

Mood Elevation: the mood evelvation is on a par with d-bol

Fat burning: This stuff must free up more T3 it's the only answer, excellent.

Anti catabolic: Was used in conjunction with vit c, melatonin and st.Johns wort, next time will add Phosphatidylserine. Considering the amount of fat loss the levels of size retension were good.

Sex drive: It's for good for this too

Here's what I don't get; muscle hardness, increased pumps or that alpha male de blah de blah............... sorry I've used test at 1/2 a gram a week and that doesn't give me it. One thinks it's in people imagination.

Nos Ether

Don't really want to comment to much on this as I used only one tub.

It gave strength gains in PCT which is good IMO and some times I got great energy and focus off it. Most creatines do nothing for me.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

O.K so been away battling a cold, never quite got it but felt like I would for a while. Time I think to give my thoughts on the products I've used in this post cycle therapy.

Diesel Test HC

I think the best qualities of this product are under played and the weakest qualties over played. There is no miracle product for LBM gains on the market that does not interupt the HPTA. But this product does give the following:

Energy: starts day 3

Mood Elevation: the mood evelvation is on a par with d-bol

Fat burning: This stuff must free up more T3 it's the only answer, excellent.

Anti catabolic: Was used in conjunction with vit c, melatonin and st.Johns wort, next time will add Phosphatidylserine. Considering the amount of fat loss the levels of size retension were good.

Sex drive: It's for good for this too

Here's what I don't get; muscle hardness, increased pumps or that alpha male de blah de blah............... sorry I've used test at 1/2 a gram a week and that doesn't give me it. One thinks it's in people imagination.

Nos Ether

Don't really want to comment to much on this as I used only one tub.

It gave strength gains in PCT which is good IMO and some times I got great energy and focus off it. Most creatines do nothing for me.

thanks for the full review. On the DTH most people do get the muscle hardness, pumps and alpha male mentality but PCT i dont know for everyone.