I got my whole house to do RPM/Drive - My Log

hockeyroom28 · 11-05-2007, 10:13 AM

After constantly hearing great things on here about AN, I convinced all the guys in my house to do an RPM/Drive stack. We're all doing 2 morning Drive, 2 prewo Drive, and 3 prewo RPM.

Other supplements:
Protein
Glutamine
Green Mag
Multi Vitamin
pretty basic, really want to see what the stack will do

Notes:
Starting today, which is about 1.5 weeks into my PCT from a M-Drol cycle. PCT consists of Clomid, Aromasin, and Myogenx.

Weight: ~174-176

Diet: Not horrible but not great, trying to clean it up a lot. Have about 2-3 cheats per week.

Day 1 starts today, Monday 11/5. I took 2 Drive already, and will be working out around 1:15.

**Cellardude** · 11-05-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hockeyroom28

After constantly hearing great things on here about AN, I convinced all the guys in my house to do an RPM/Drive stack. We're all doing 2 morning Drive, 2 prewo Drive, and 3 prewo RPM.

Other supplements:
Protein
Glutamine
Green Mag
Multi Vitamin
pretty basic, really want to see what the stack will do

Notes:
Starting today, which is about 1.5 weeks into my post cycle therapy from a M-Drol cycle. PCT consists of Clomid, Aromasin, and Myogenx.

Weight: ~174-176

Diet: Not horrible but not great, trying to clean it up a lot. Have about 2-3 cheats per week.

Day 1 starts today, Monday 11/5. I took 2 Drive already, and will be working out around 1:15.

Hey man, Bump up the Drive Dosages up a cap. I noticed that your taking RPM along with Drive. I would advise you to bump up the cap dosages on your Pre work out dose for bout 10 days. 6 caps per day ran for 10 days gave me a sick recomp effect. Also try to fix up your diet and clean it up. Drive can lean you out like crazy. Consume whole foods and on day 12-13 you'll notice getting leaner. I noticed this especially because i would consider myself a fatty. Good luck on this. After about the 2 week mark, bump back the dosages down to 4. RPM and Drive along with X-Factor make a hell of a stack.

hockeyroom28 · 11-05-2007, 10:20 AM

Thanks for the reply. So 3 Drive when I wake up and 3 Drive pre workout for the first 2 weeks? Then I can go back down to 2/2? I've heard that 3/3 is the best, but it makes for a pretty expensive stack.

nosnmiveins · 11-05-2007, 10:22 AM

yes, 3/3 for 10 days then back to 2/2

**Cellardude** · 11-05-2007, 10:29 AM

Or in your case you can do 2 morning 3 pre. RPM makes it so you need less of the other.

hockeyroom28 · 11-05-2007, 11:20 AM

OK I'm pumped. What should I expect to feel from these two? I've never had a thermogenic and never felt the effect of one. I just took 3 RPM and will take 3 Drive in 15 minutes. Hope to see some pumps and focus pre workout.

hockeyroom28 · 11-05-2007, 11:52 AM

I took 3/3 Drive/RPM about 20 mins ago and I feel like my head is racing. I feel very focused already and I can't wait to get to the gym

rms80 · 11-05-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeyroom28

I took 3/3 Drive/RPM about 20 mins ago and I feel like my head is racing. I feel very focused already and I can't wait to get to the gym

pretty much what you are supposed to feel

hockeyroom28 · 11-05-2007, 04:58 PM

Had a good workout, felt really pumped, energized and focused. None of my lifts went up, but the first few sets felt easier than normal.

**matthew76** · 11-07-2007, 03:06 PM

2 - 3 cheats a week is not considered a cheat - It's considered not healthy. A clean diet is a must for results.

Good Luck!

nelix · 11-07-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by matthew76

2 - 3 cheats a week is not considered a cheat - It's considered not healthy. A clean diet is a must for results.

Good Luck!

It really depends on how bad and how large the cheat meals are...

hockeyroom28 · 11-07-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by matthew76

2 - 3 cheats a week is not considered a cheat - It's considered not healthy. A clean diet is a must for results.

Good Luck!

I don't agree with that at all. Consider the normal American diet. My diet, with 3 or even 4-5 cheats out of the whole week still is a WHOLE lot better than eating whatever/wherever/whenever.

**matthew76** · 11-07-2007, 09:49 PM

Normal American diet? Do you really want to play that card?

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Originally Posted by hockeyroom28

I don't agree with that at all. Consider the normal American diet. My diet, with 3 or even 4-5 cheats out of the whole week still is a WHOLE lot better than eating whatever/wherever/whenever.

hockeyroom28 · 11-08-2007, 09:48 PM

I know I can be more strict, but I'm just trying to justify

**Cellardude** · 11-08-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeyroom28

I know I can be more strict, but I'm just trying to justify

What my bud matt is trying to say (I think) is that body building is a sport of discipline. Controlling your appetite and sticking to certian foods is a must. Although cheats are meant to adjust to your diet it certianly should not be consumed on a daily basis. Depending what your definition of a cheat meal is also another thing.

Try to stick to a good diet plan. It makes cutting a whole lot easier and gains tend to fall into place on a nice balanced macro of healthy fats/carbs/protien. I see your viewpoint also how it is "better" than normal american diets but if body building is your goal or packing in mass you have to learn discipline. Discipline to control what you eat, discipline to hit the gym. Discipline to grow. It's not the fact that your cheating, It's the whole concept of having control which is what packing in mass is all about. Honestly, after consuming turkey, and oats. Ive gotten used to it that It doesnt make a difference to me. To me it is regular food now. Not just a "diet"

rms80 · 11-09-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cellardude

What my bud matt is trying to say (I think) is that body building is a sport of discipline. Controlling your appetite and sticking to certian foods is a must. Although cheats are meant to adjust to your diet it certianly should not be consumed on a daily basis. Depending what your definition of a cheat meal is also another thing.

Try to stick to a good diet plan. It makes cutting a whole lot easier and gains tend to fall into place on a nice balanced macro of healthy fats/carbs/protien. I see your viewpoint also how it is "better" than normal american diets but if body building is your goal or packing in mass you have to learn discipline. Discipline to control what you eat, discipline to hit the gym. Discipline to grow. It's not the fact that your cheating, It's the whole concept of having control which is what packing in mass is all about. Honestly, after consuming turkey, and oats. Ive gotten used to it that It doesnt make a difference to me. To me it is regular food now. Not just a "diet"

I used to be extremely disciplined with my diet- and now am a little more moderate- but I will admit- my best growth and results occurred when I was hyper-disciplined with everything....