DRIVEing towards MUSCLE!

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  1. Great log man, you keep it nice and concise. Some people over do it, I don't want to read about the ingredients in all your meals and the cross streets of the store where you bought those ingredients. I want to hear about your experience IN THE GYM with the product. I like it, keep it up.
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  2. Appreciate it guys...yeah I do admit...my body has probably gotten used to the workout style. Actually, I do remember the last time I was back down at this kind of plateau...changing to dumbbells did it. I'll do that with some more volume and reps.

    Thanks for the input guys!
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  3. that T-nation article is a bit errr.... its not one or the other, either higher volume OR greater intensity. It's BOTH. In a macrocycle over a year, you need to have BOTH to maximize muscle hypertrophy, its called periodization. That author was extremely biased, I liked his "and you MAY get bigger" The Science of Exercise Physiology tells you how the body "will" adapt, not "may" adapt because of intuition. Though he had some good points as his premise that intuition has its place. Intuition drives the hypothesis and that hypothesis due to the intuition is then affirmed by research. Higher intensity lifts and Higher volume lifts both effect hypertrophy, but higher intensity has a greater neuromuscular adaption, hypertrophy of the sarcolemma, greater release of calcium from the T-tubules....etc. Calcium is a prime synergist that interacts with ATP which engines the cross bridge relationships between Myosin and Actin to create contraction(sssss). Higher reps effects that same mechanism, but has a "primary" effect on muscle hypertrophy. What's the relationship of intensity and volume? Intensity, high load, increases strength, upping the potential of how much you can lift. High volume then takes advantage of the strength gains and allows you to train at a higher level with more reps and creating further hypertrophy. And you micro cycle back and forth for a complete macrocycle to maximize muscle hypertrophy, muscle size AAANNNND strength. I'm not so keen on bodybuilders who take pride in bragging about lifting with 10lb dumb bells in the name of "quality" over quantity. Quality INCLUDES the quantity of weight you're using. To an extent, you are what you lift. Anyway, late nights make you ramble, sorry about that.
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  4. I think too part of the value in that concept is that you would be hitting both slow twitch + fast twitch fibers all the time. I would still switch out of this every so often, and make sure that I switch around the specific exercises for each body part every 6 weeks regardless.

    Thats my current scheduling btw, changing routine every 6 weeks, and taking a week off every 12.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    that T-nation article is a bit errr.... its not one or the other, either higher volume OR greater intensity. It's BOTH. In a macrocycle over a year, you need to have BOTH to maximize muscle hypertrophy, its called periodization. That author was extremely biased, I liked his "and you MAY get bigger" The Science of Exercise Physiology tells you how the body "will" adapt, not "may" adapt because of intuition. Though he had some good points as his premise that intuition has its place. Intuition drives the hypothesis and that hypothesis due to the intuition is then affirmed by research. Higher intensity lifts and Higher volume lifts both effect hypertrophy, but higher intensity has a greater neuromuscular adaption, hypertrophy of the sarcolemma, greater release of calcium from the T-tubules....etc. Calcium is a prime synergist that interacts with ATP which engines the cross bridge relationships between Myosin and Actin to create contraction(sssss). Higher reps effects that same mechanism, but has a "primary" effect on muscle hypertrophy. What's the relationship of intensity and volume? Intensity, high load, increases strength, upping the potential of how much you can lift. High volume then takes advantage of the strength gains and allows you to train at a higher level with more reps and creating further hypertrophy. And you micro cycle back and forth for a complete macrocycle to maximize muscle hypertrophy, muscle size AAANNNND strength. I'm not so keen on bodybuilders who take pride in bragging about lifting with 10lb dumb bells in the name of "quality" over quantity. Quality INCLUDES the quantity of weight you're using. To an extent, you are what you lift. Anyway, late nights make you ramble, sorry about that.

    No worries- now you are speaking my language- essentially it all comes down to what you are training for, and how you are training for it

    PS- same goes for track and field- you have to have longer aerobic and anaerobic conditioning phases to maximize the effects of event-specific training- even if your event is throws or sprints....
    Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
    Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
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  6. Day 18

    Weight:196

    Diet
    3200 Calories 30%p, 45%c, 25%f

    Supplementation

    Supplements Taken
    4 RPM
    4 DRIVE

    Preworkout Supplement
    4 RPM
    2 DRIVE

    Workout #11 Shoulders/Traps

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    60 lbs x 12, 60 lbs x 10, 60 lbs x 8, 60 lbs x 8
    +5 on dumbbells

    Barbell Shrugs
    225 lbs x 8, 225 lbs x 8, 225 lbs x 8, 225 lbs x 8

    Side Delt Raises
    20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10

    Dumbbell Shrugs
    70 lbs x 15, 70 lbs x 12, 70 lbs x 12, 70 lbs x 12

    Upright Rows
    95 lbs x 8, 95 lbs x 8, 95 lbs x 8

    Thoughts and Comments
    Got an extra 5 lbs on the shoulder press. Shoulders had a hell of a pump from this workout. Never really had a good burn and last as I did today. Today actually did feel like a supercharged workout.

    As I said pump has been incredible with these workouts with Drive, but vascularity has not changed much during this log.

    One of the main things that I've noticed even during offdays is that muscles feel extremely full and hard. Never has my back have a "full feeling" and my back has had that feeling for the past week.

    Recovery has been the same as on regular days...nothing too dramatic. I'm getting DOMS with the same frequency and intensity.

  7. Nice gain on the shoulder press bro!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. Day 19

    Weight:197

    Diet
    3200 Calories 36%p, 39%c, 25%f

    Supplementation

    Supplements Taken
    4 DRIVE
    3 RPM
    1 Eco-Green
    3g Fishoil

    Preworkout Supplement
    2 DRIVE
    3 RPM

    Workout #12 Legs/Calves/Abs

    Squats
    275 lbs x 8, 275 lbs x 8, 275 lbs x 8

    Leg Press
    400 lbs x 10, 400 lbs x 10, 400 lbs x 10, 400 lbs x 10, 400 lbs x 10, 400 lbs x 10

    Calf Raises
    140 x 8, 140 x 8, 140 x 8, 140 x 8

    Leg Curls
    120 x 10, 140 x 8, 140 x 8, 140 x 8

    Decline Weighted Situps
    45 lbs x 8, 45 lbs x 8, 45 lbs x 8, 45 lbs x 8

    Thoughts and Comments
    Damn, I went into this workout with a mindset of wanting to pound up high volume with a good amount of reps to "suprise" my body and legs. I can def say that my endurance has def increased. The leg press was killer...and I've never been able to pound out that many sets with that much weight.

    Endurance has def INCREASED!

    I also had a huge leg pump...like when I was taking no2 products such as superpump during the workout. It's pretty awesome when you can barely walk out of the gym.

    The heightened libido has sort of leveled off after hitting its peak during last week.

    One of the best things that I'm noticing while on this product is that my face is not getting puffy while putting on this weight. Usually, the first thing that happens is that the weight goes to my face. I'm at 197 now. I think I'm going to stay at 3200 calories with this log from here on out. It's giving me the .50-.75 lb increase per week with the DRIVE. One of the most important things to me while trying to gain muscle is to limit the fat gain. As a slight endo, that's been one of the toughest things for me.

  9. cool beans! I know the feeling, I blew a moderately clean bulk because it worked so well the first week I added a bit more cals the next and some more the next... in 4 weeks I added 7 or so pounds of lean mass, but also another 6 of fat.

  10. Yeah, man...I hate cutting not because of the cardio..but because I manage to get weaker and lose muscle even if I do it slowly...so I'm def trying to ward the fat while gaining the muscle!

  11. I'm managing to consistently gain strength over the last 10 months (other than the 1 month bulk gone wild) now while gaining strenght the whole time, consistently

  12. Day 22

    Weight:197

    Diet
    3300 Calories 36%p, 39%c, 25%f

    Supplementation

    Supplements Taken
    6 DRIVE
    4 RPM
    1 Eco-Green
    3g Fishoil

    Preworkout Supplement
    4 RPM
    3 DRIVE

    Workout #13 Back/Biceps

    Wide Grip Lat Pulls
    120 lbs x 8, 120 lbs x 8, 120 lbs x 8

    Bent Over Barbell Rows
    120 lbs x 12, 120 lbs x 12, 120 lbs x 12, 120 lbs x 12

    Close Grip Lat Pulls
    120 lbs x 8, 120 lbs x 8, 120 lbs x 8

    Supinating dumbbell Curls
    25 lbs x 10/10, 25 lbs x 10/10, 25 lbs x 10/10

    Hammer Curls
    30 lbs x 10, 30 lbs x 10, 30 lbs x 10

    One Arm Rows
    55 lbs x 10/10, 55 lbs x 10/10, 55 lbs x 10/10

    Thoughts and Comments

    Well, I've been alternating the rep scheme...and today I don't even think it was because of the rep scheme...but I FELT A DAMN LOT STRONGER TODAY. Everything good form, felt good and controlled reps with strong negatives while upping each rep 4 reps on every exercise. Felt like I could last forever. Damn... today was good.

    Recovery was pretty ****ty...legs were the sorest I've ever been.

    I've upped dosage of DRIVE back to 6 because I felt a lot better during the week with the 6 drive, and just felt nothing with 4 drive a day last week.

  13. Log looks good man. Very nice gains. I'm getting ready to start my Drive myself here in the next week. I can't wait! Keep up the good work!

  14. Day 23

    Weight:197

    Diet
    3400 Calories 36%p, 39%c, 25%f
    (additional for half-hour basketball)

    Supplementation

    Supplements Taken
    6 Drive
    5 RPM

    Preworkout Supplement
    3 Drive
    5 RPM

    Workout #14 Chest/Triceps

    Dumbbell Bench
    80 lbs x 8, 80 lbs x 8, 80 lbs x 6

    Decline Barbell Press
    175 lbs x 10, 175 lbs x 10, 175 lbs x 10

    Dumbbell Incline Bench
    55 lbs x 10, 55 lbs x 10, 55 lbs x 10

    Dips
    BW x 6, BW x 6, BW x 6

    Tricep Extensions
    140 lbs x 12 140 lbs x 10, 140 lbs x 10, 140 lbs x 10

    Braincrushers
    35 lbs x 12, 35 lbs x 12, 35 lbs x 12, 35 lbs x 12

    Thoughts Comments
    I went with lanbane's suggestion and started off with dumbbells. This workout was a lot more volume and higher rep focused while still going heavy. I didn't get to update yesterday, but I feel like I've been hit by a truck today. That's how sore I am.

    I actually think DRIVE has facilitated more DOMS. I really have never been as sore as I have been today since I was on a x-factor cycle for the last 2 weeks.

    Vascularity is up which is a suprise. Veins are popping out today in the forearms without working out today on my offday while after the workout it just looked good.

    Oh, yeah, I also took 5 RPM, and I feel that hit the spot for the workout. I was used to 4 and 5 just put me in the zone. I felt like a beast in the gym!!

  15. Day 24

    Weight:197

    Diet
    3200 Calories 36%p, 39%c, 25%f

    Supplementation

    Supplements Taken
    4 RPM
    6 DRIVE

    Preworkout Supplement
    4 RPM
    3 DRIVE

    Workout #15 Shoulders/Traps

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    60 lbs x 10, 60 lbs x 10, 60 lbs x 10

    Upright Rows
    95 lbs x 10, 95 lbs x 10, 95 lbs x 8

    Barbell Shrugs
    185 lbs x 15, 185 lbs x 15, 185 lbs x 15, 185 lbs x 15

    Front Delt Raises
    20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10

    Side Delt Raises
    20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10

    Dumbbell Shrugs
    75 lbs x 12, 75 lbs x 12, 75 lbs x 12

    Thoughts and Comments
    I really feel that 6 Drive is the magic number for me. Feeling just overall good mentally and physically. Having more aggressive feelings, just more mood uplifting. Strength and endurance is still going up incrementally. Vascularity is also increasing which is a plus for the body fat indication.

    I got a question for lanbane or any reps... do you think the DRIVE could faciliate more muscle growth...should I bump my calories even more like 3300 instead of a constant 3200. I've gained 2 lbs in 3 weeks, but I'm just wondering what you AN reps think. A supplement can only do so much without the calories needed for growth. Or should I stick with what I'm doing and check on how much fat loss and muscle growth I can get.

  16. I'd say its worth a shot. An extra 100 cal a day will only translate to half a pound in the next 2 weeks. I'd do it with 25g of carbs added to whichever meal after taking drive is your lowest in carbs currently.

  17. Will do...let's see what happens!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by ahs4n View Post
    Day 24

    Weight:197

    Diet
    3200 Calories 36%p, 39%c, 25%f

    Supplementation

    Supplements Taken
    4 RPM
    6 DRIVE

    Preworkout Supplement
    4 RPM
    3 DRIVE

    Workout #15 Shoulders/Traps

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    60 lbs x 10, 60 lbs x 10, 60 lbs x 10

    Upright Rows
    95 lbs x 10, 95 lbs x 10, 95 lbs x 8

    Barbell Shrugs
    185 lbs x 15, 185 lbs x 15, 185 lbs x 15, 185 lbs x 15

    Front Delt Raises
    20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10

    Side Delt Raises
    20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10, 20 lbs x 10

    Dumbbell Shrugs
    75 lbs x 12, 75 lbs x 12, 75 lbs x 12

    Thoughts and Comments
    I really feel that 6 Drive is the magic number for me. Feeling just overall good mentally and physically. Having more aggressive feelings, just more mood uplifting. Strength and endurance is still going up incrementally. Vascularity is also increasing which is a plus for the body fat indication.

    I got a question for lanbane or any reps... do you think the DRIVE could faciliate more muscle growth...should I bump my calories even more like 3300 instead of a constant 3200. I've gained 2 lbs in 3 weeks, but I'm just wondering what you AN reps think. A supplement can only do so much without the calories needed for growth. Or should I stick with what I'm doing and check on how much fat loss and muscle growth I can get.
    Yes- Drive will build lean muscle mass, and do a very good job of it, while at the same time reducing body fat- I would up the calories, but if you do, try to keep them as clean as possible- this is the best way to maximize gains...
    Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
    Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals

  19. Yeah, man all my calories are clean with the exception of eating out with the girl sometimes.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ahs4n View Post
    Yeah, man all my calories are clean with the exception of eating out with the girl sometimes.
    preach it
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    Yes- Drive will build lean muscle mass, and do a very good job of it, while at the same time reducing body fat- I would up the calories, but if you do, try to keep them as clean as possible- this is the best way to maximize gains...

    You mentioned Drive is effective at reducing bodyfat. I was thinking about adding Drive to my DCP/Levi Re stack. What do you think? Is that effective? safe? or excessive?
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  22. Day 25

    Weight:197

    Diet
    3300 Calories 36%p, 39%c, 25%f

    Supplementation

    Supplements Taken
    6 DRIVE
    4 RPM
    1 Eco-Green
    3g Fishoil

    Preworkout Supplement
    3 DRIVE
    4 RPM

    Workout #16 Legs/Calves/Abs

    Squats
    280 lbs x 8, 280 lbs x 8, 280 lbs x 8 (some help on the last set)

    Front Squats
    175 lbs x 10, 175 lbs x 10, 175 lbs x 10, 175 lbs x 10

    Calf Raises
    140 x 10, 140 x 10, 140 x 10, 140 x 10

    SLDL's
    155 lbs x 10, 155 lbs x 10, 155 lbs x 10, 155 lbs x 10

    Decline Weighted Situps
    45 lbs x 8, 45 lbs x 8, 45 lbs x 8, 45 lbs x 8

    Thoughts and Comments
    Leg workouts are getting more and more intense. I'm can def tell that the endurance is going up. I'm also doing more volume and sets, which is giving me huge pumps. Strength is also getting up higher and I'm just feeling like a beast in the gym. 6 Drive really is huge difference compared to 4. I don't think thats placebo either...its a huge energy feeling without the stim effect.

    I really can't wait to see the beginning/end pictures and its only this much of the log. The chances are getting "VERY NICE!"

  23. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    You mentioned Drive is effective at reducing bodyfat. I was thinking about adding Drive to my DCP/Levi Re stack. What do you think? Is that effective? safe? or excessive?
    I would def do that man! If you cut like say even 800 calories(through diet and cardio), I think you would even increase strength while on that stack.

  24. Day 28

    Weight:197.5

    Diet
    3400 Calories 36%p, 39%c, 25%f

    Supplementation

    Supplements Taken
    6 Drive
    4 RPM

    Preworkout Supplement
    3 Drive
    5 RPM

    Workout #17 Chest/Triceps

    Dumbbell Bench
    205 lbs x 8, 205 lbs x 8, 205 lbs x 8, 225 lbs x 6, 225 lbs x 6

    Decline Barbell Press
    185 lbs x 8, 185 lbs x 8, 185 lbs x 8

    Dumbbell Incline Bench
    55 lbs x 10, 55 lbs x 10, 55 lbs x 10

    Dip Machine
    80 lbs x 10, 80 lbs x 10, 80 lbs x 10
    Drop sets 80 lbs x 10, 60 lbs x 10, 40 lbs x 20, 20 lbs x 20

    Tricep Extensions
    140 lbs x 12 140 lbs x 10, 140 lbs x 10, 140 lbs x 10
    Drops Sets 100 lbs x 10, 80 lbs x 10, 60 lbs x 10, 40 lbs x 20

    Braincrushers
    35 lbs x 12, 35 lbs x 12, 35 lbs x 12, 35 lbs x 12

    Thoughts Comments
    Never been more pumped or have had more energy than in this workout. I was going forever and lasting in the gym forever.

    Strength feels good that its going up these days gradually.

    Drop sets did great for my workout, and my chest and triceps were never more pumped today.

    Libido at the 6 a day has been so much better and feels great. Girlfriend's been wondering what's been which speaks a lot.

    I cannot speak for how awesome it is to be going up in weight while my face is leaning out. It doesn't look like I have that "fat" face.

  25. Day 29

    Weight:197.5

    Diet
    3300 Calories 36%p, 39%c, 25%f

    Supplementation

    Supplements Taken
    6 DRIVE
    4 RPM
    1 Eco-Green
    3g Fishoil

    Preworkout Supplement
    4 RPM
    3 DRIVE

    Workout #18 Back/Biceps

    Pullups
    BW x 6, BW x 6, BW x 6

    Bent Over Barbell Rows
    135 lbs x 8, 135 lbs x 8, 135 lbs x 8, 135 lbs x 8

    Wide Grip Lat Pulls
    100 lbs x 10, 120 lbs x 8, 120 lbs x 8, 100 lbs x 10
    Drop Set 80 lbs x 12, 60 lbs x 12, 40 lbs x 12

    Supinating Incline dumbbell Curls
    25 lbs x 10/10, 25 lbs x 10/10, 25 lbs x 10/10, 25 lbs x 8/8

    Hammer Curls
    30 lbs x 10, 30 lbs x 10, 30 lbs x 10

    One Arm Rows
    55 lbs x 10/10, 55 lbs x 10/10, 55 lbs x 10/10

    Thoughts and Comments
    Holy ****..the one thing that stood out on this workout was my vascularity. I haven't had much vascularity because I've been carrying a good deal of body fat. I don't know if DRIVE promotes vascularity, but today, I had veins everywhere popping out. All, I can hypothesize is that body fat has been cut down. I even had veins come out of my neck while I was doing curls. Simply amazing. I've gone up 2.5 lbs while I have obviously cut some fat, which might mean even more muscle growth!

    Strength is still going up in small increments nothing so impressive, but I like it!.
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