[TheNinja]

Age: 30
Stats: 6'1" @ 185.5 lbs
BodyFat: I estimated 14% bf (I really have no idea but from pictures posted on AM, people estimated 12-14%)
Body Type: Ecto (66%) / Meso (33%) - very thin growing up but have forced myself to gain muscle
Goals: Gain strength and size with minimal fat gain on a consistent basis.
Goals Specific for this product cycle: Gain strength and size. I may need to up my calories.
Medical issues: none
Past Supplements: Little experience other than multivitamin, creatine, whey protein, fish oils (1 recent 7 week cycle on Leviathan, light RPM use has been discontinued for the past 2 weeks to prep for the log).
7 week IGF-2 cycle courtesy of Applied Nutriceuticals.
Current: Multi, Whey, omega3, BCAA, Poseidon (when I feel I need the extra hydration).
Diet: In check for the most part. Try to eat clean all the time but I'm not super crazy about it. Realistically average about 2200 calories a day, but I have an office job
Workout: Typically a 3 or 4 day split - chest/tris, back/bis, legs/shoulders, 4thday misc (more leg, abs, etc.)
Cardio: Haven't been very consistent. Probably won't be with winter coming up either. I do the occaissionly walk at night or the long hike on weekends.
Other: I'm just a regular guy but with good intensity and a good diet. I don't live and breathe working out and supplements but it is important to me
Dosage split into 2 times a day:
Morning = 2 Drive + 1 RPM
Preworkout (3pm) = 2 Drive + 2 RPM
times and dosages subject to change

"Normal" Diet:
Waking Up: 2 Drive + 1 RPM
Meal 1: 8oz skim milk, 1 scoop ON Whey, multi, 1/2 tablespoon olive oil, 1/2 cup oats...mmm tasty shake
Meal 2: 1 whole wheat bagel with natural peanut butter
Meal 3: Varies, but typically around 600 calories in a 40/40/20 split or as close as possible consisting of lean protein, whole grain, veggies.
Pre Workout: 2 Drive + 2 RPM plus 5g BCAA's in crystal light - a banana 30 mins after the Drive/RPM.
Workout: Take 5g BCAA during workout
Post Workout Meal 4: 40g WMS, 15g dextrose, 25g ON whey, 5g BCAA
Meal 5: Varies, but again typically around 600 calories in a 40/40/20 split or as close as possible consisting of lean protein, whole grain, veggies. + 2 fish oils
Before bed: 12oz skin milk, 1 scoop ON Whey

Initial measurements - as close as I could get with a string and a tape measure :
coming soon

Pictures on Day 1 - Also coming soon

[Lanbane]

Subscribed!!!!!!!!!!

[drewh10987]

subbed. i enjoyed following your other log. best of luck with your new stack.

[brass monkey]

Jumping in on this one nice start
good luck

[TheNinja]

Day 1
Workout - Chest:
Incline Press:
12 @ 135
12 @ 165
10 @ 185
9 @ 185
8 @ 185
Flat Flys - Dumbell followed by a deep 20 sec stretch:
10 @ 40
10 @ 40
10 @ 40
Dumbell Pullover:
10 @ 45
9 @ 45
9 @ 45
Pushups:
26
20


Diet: Missed meal #2 in the morning. Made up for it with Pizza for lunch
Overall Feeling: I'll be honest. I took 2 RPM + 2 Drive at about 2:45, by 3:25 I was bouncing in my chair and could hardly concentrate or sit still. By the time I was working out at about 4:10 I started to feel bad. For most of the workout I felt sort of out of breath, light-headed and nauseous between sets. The good news is that I still got some decent pumps and during the sets I was focused and strong when lifting. Also I haven't inclined for a while, but I think 185 is pretty decent for me. Maybe I just put so much into the lifts I wore myself out?
Notes: Perhaps I'm just getting used to something in the RPM/Drive or maybe I can't handle stims too much. It's about 5:45 now and I'm finally feeling ok although a little shakey and a slight headache. I'm going to stick with this though and chalk it up to a bad day overall as far as feeling sick. On the plus side, the lifts did feel pretty good and I had some nice pumps. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Sorry Applied Nutriceuticals, I really don't want to cast a shadow on this log right off the bat or on your products but I feel I need to be honest. I really do feel bad about it. My guess is that this may all pass by tomorrow or the next day, who knows. Maybe it's IGF-2 withdrawal

[nelix]

IGF-2 boosts dopamine, no dopamine would cause a loss of focus.

[TheNinja]

Day 2
Workout - Back:
Wide Pulldowns:
12 @ 120
11 @ 140
7 @ 145
7 @ 145
7 @ 145
T-Bar row with 45lb bar:
12 @ 80
11 @ 90
11 @ 90
10 @ 90
10 @ 90
Single Arm Dumbell Row (i have trouble with this exercise for some reason) :
12 @ 40
12 @ 40
12 @ 40

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: Here we go! Today was much better. I'm still on the fine line between anxiety and good energy. I had a good workout. Didn't notice "insane pumps" but didn't expect to on my 2nd day. I had to force myself to rest between sets otherwise I would want to jump right in.
Notes: I felt more focused as well as a better attitude overall and a better feeling. I did notice myself talking too fast and rambling sometimes though. There were also a couple of times where I felt more aggressive but easily under control. Is it possible that it increased my libido in 1 day? I woke up this morning ready to go...but nobody around to go with

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by TheNinja

Day 2
Workout - Back:
Wide Pulldowns:
numbers tomorrow- i left them at work
T-Bar row with 45lb bar:
numbers tomorrow- i left them at work
Single Arm Dumbell Row:
numbers tomorrow- i left them at work

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: Here we go! Today was much better. I'm still on the fine line between anxiety and good energy. I had a good workout. Didn't notice "insane pumps" but didn't expect to on my 2nd day. I had to force myself to rest between sets otherwise I would want to jump right in.
Notes: I felt more focused as well as a better attitude overall and a better feeling. I didt notice myself talking too fast and rambling sometimes though. There were also a couple of times where I felt more aggressive but easily under control. Is it possible that it increased my libido in 1 day? I woke up this morning ready to go...but nobody around to go with

hahaha... yes, we've gotten quite a few nearly instant libido reports.

[TheNinja]

Day 3
Workout - Off Day:

Diet: Normal - 4 total Drive, 2 total RPM
Overall Feeling: I'm starting to settle into it now. I don't feel near as fidgity or axious and the original effects I had of slight nausea and spinning head have dissappeared. But I do feel very energenic and focused. I like the feeling after 3 days just from the overall attitude and energy I'm getting. I hope that translates well to the weights
Notes: Increase libido you ask? Yes, I answer! Sleep has still been good even with the added stims of RPM. I don't necessarily notice any difference in my sleeping patterns but I'm a pretty sound sleeper in general.

[TheNinja]

Day 4
Workout - Legs:
Squat:
12 @ 185
11 @ 220
8 @ 235
8 @ 235
8 @ 225
Then I do a cycle of the following 3 exercises
Good Mornin':
12 @ 75
11 @ 75
12 @ 75
Leg Ext (on an old piece of crap bench) :
12 @ 115
11 @ 115
12 @ 115
Calf Raise - Holding a dumbell, Single leg up on a bench with full extension:
12 @ 10
11 @ 10
12 @ 10


Diet: Didn't eat enough today
Overall Feeling: Even without proper nutrition today, during the workout I felt great. I don't feel as "high" as I did on day 1 and that's a good thing. I feel much more focused and aggressive towards the weights. This wasn't my best squat day ever. But it was close to my PR which I set 2 weeks ago after a 7 week cycle of IGF-2....which I could go on and on about also..but you can read my log in my sig
Notes: I'm starting to really like the overall feeling even during the day. I am very alert but don't have axiety like the first day or two. I do notice that at the end of my workouts I feel very tired and completely worn out for about 20 minutes. Then I feel good again. I think I just get worked up for lifting that when I'm done my body needs a rest b/c it's worn out.

Still doing 4 total Drive everyday with 2 RPM on non workout days and 3 RPM on workout days. I'll re-evaluate next week perhaps.

[TheNinja]

Day 5
Workout - Shoulders:
Triple Set - 1 set of each exercise right in a row with no rest between exercises. 90 sec rests between each 3 set
Front Barbell Raise:
10 @ 45
9 @ 45
9 @ 45
Military Dumbell Press:
12 @ 40
9 @ 45
7 @ 40 / 8 @ 20
Standing dumbell side raise:
9 @ 10
8 @ 10
9 @ 10

Triple Set - 1 set of each exercise right in a row with no rest between exercises. 90 sec rests between each 3 set
Incline dumbell lateral:
10 @ 15
10 @ 15
12 @ 10
Military Dumbell Press ( at this point = pain! ) :
10 @ 35
12 @ 35
12 @ 35
Standing Dumbell Bent over laterals:
10 @ 15
10 @ 15
12 @ 10

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: Good energy during workout! Great focus and agression. Great endurance and stamina. This is starting to grow on me in the weight room. I didn't get the post workout crash like I have been getting lately, so that is also another positive!
Notes: The feeling during the day is also nice. I feel very lean and strong. I know I'm lighter than 10 weeks ago by about 4-5 pounds and I can see and feel it. I believe I look a little smaller over all but I definitely feel tighter and stronger so taht is def. a good thing. Arms tomorrow and off on Sunday.

edit: P.S. I'm really ramped up right now and feel like either running down the street or hitting the heavy bag

[TheNinja]

Day 7
Workout - 1.5 hour hike:

Don't know the distance, but roughly 1.5 hours. Nothing hardcore but enough to get the ol' ticker going.

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: I had pretty good endurance on the hike. It's very hard for me to tell whether these supps do anything on a hike though b/c each hike is so much different. I did feel good energy but I had to make sure and stay under control and not run the first 20 minutes when the RPM kicks in
Notes: Nothing much to note. I might change up dosages next week.

[TheNinja]

Day 9
Workout - Chest/Tris:

I went back to my old 3 day split to see where I'm at

Bench:
12 @ 185
6 @ 225
5 @ 225
8 @ 215
7 @ 210
9 @ 205
10 @ 185
Incline Flys:
12 @ 50
11 @ 50
10 @ 50
Skull Crush / Narrow Grip:
10/12 @ 30s on the side of curved bar
10/10 @ 30s
10/9 @ 30s
Overhead Tricep with Dumbell:
11 @ 55
9 @ 55
Pushup:
16
14

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: Decent energy in the weight room as far as my mind and will go. I'm a little upset at myself on the amount of weight I was able...or more unable..to lift. It seems I'm losing some gains I made while on IGF-2. However I haven't lifted really heavy flat bench since 10/2 as I did a week of lighter reps and last week I hit incline instead. That being said, I got a good pump at the end and looked pretty ripped and lean.
Notes: I'm pumped up pretty nice now. I think I will try 5 a day Drive and possibly bump up RPM on workout days. I know my bottle will run out sooner but I need to play with the dosages to find out what's right for people my size (about 185).

I weighed myself nude the other morning and was 181 pounds! Luckily I weighed again that night and was back to 185. Is it possible the Drive/RPM is acting like a fat burner for me? Time to up the calories. I'm going to toss in 1-2 tablespoons of olive oil per day. Another cup of oats. And 200 calories of oats in the afternoon. Should give me about 400-450 extra calories a day.

[Lanbane]

Looking great ninja! Expect some fat loss....... but yes, let's up those calories some!!!!!!!!!!

[TheNinja]

Day 11
Workout - Legs/Shoulders:

I went back to my old 3 day split to see where I'm at

Squat:
12 @ 185
12 @ 215
9 @ 235
9 @ 235
Good Morning to you:
12 @ 75
10 @ 80
11 @ 80
Quickly into Leg Extension:
12 @ 115
12 @ 125
12 @ 125
Military Press:
12 @ 95
12 @ 125
7 @ 140
9 @ 135
Front/Side Raise (alternate) :
8/8 @ 15
8/10 @ 15
8/10 @ 15
immediately into Military Press with dumbells (ouch) :
8 @ 35
9 @ 30
10 @ 30

Diet: Normal+ (5 Drive today + 4 RPM total )
Overall Feeling: Good energy in the gym. I notice I'm probably not as friendly though - Sometimes I'm not friendly b/c I'm shy or nervous, but during this stack I'm not friendly b/c I don't want to be bothered and I'm sort of pissed at the weights or something. It makes for good working out as long as nobody approaches me (it's not like I normally talk to people anyway).
Notes: My system is settling into it nicely. I still have a little stomach issues around workout time if I try to slam in too many RPM at once on an empty stomach. I have no trouble falling asleep or staying asleep either.

[TheNinja]

I did 25 minutes of pilates "core" workout. Ya, it's kind of....uhh, womanly shall we say? It was actually sort of tough and decent ab and lower back workout.

[TheNinja]

Day 12
Workout - Back/Biceps:

Wide Pulldown:
14 @ 120
9 @ 145
7 @ 150
7 @ 150
Bent Over Row with 45er bar:
10 @ 145
10 @ 145
10 @ 145
T-Bar Row - actually the 45er bar stuck in a corner:
12 @ 90
11 @ 100
10 @ 100
Bicep Barbell (big 45er bar) :
10 @ 85
9 @ 85
7 @ 85
Hammer Dumbell:
9 @ 35
8 @ 35
immediately into "peak" dumbells:
10 @ 25
8 @ 25
Forum Curls with 45er bar curling behind my back:
10 @ 105
10 @ 105


Diet: Normal+ (5 Drive today + 3 RPM total )
Overall Feeling: I think I'm getting the dosing scheme down to how I like it. I felt good in the gym today. My pulldowns matched my personal best, my bent rows were decent, and my T-bar rows CRUSHED last time by 10 lbs. Unfortunately it may have been at the price of my biceps b/c I sort of pussed out on biceps and forearms. I mean 35ers for hammer curls??? please, I'm embarrassed for myself
Notes: No stomach issues for today. I don't know if this is proper dosing but I took 2 Drive + 1 RPM on waking. I took 1 Drive about 11:30am. I took 1 Drive + 2 RPM 1.25 hours before workout. I took 1 Drive immediately after workout with PWO shake. 5 Drive + 3 RPM today. I think by splitting them up (whereas yesterday I did Drive + 2 RPM in the morn and 2 Drive + 3 RPM before lifting) I don't have to run to the bathroom, and I should still get the cumulative effects. Also, I don't notice the ups and downs as much. I think it's just such potent stuff my body isn't used to it.

[Lanbane]

Should work fine man.... interested to see how that dosing scheme works out for ya!

[9volt]

How long are you running this stack for?

[TheNinja]

Originally Posted by 9volt

How long are you running this stack for?

I'd say about 3 1/2 weeks. I'll be out of Drive by then. It's just a quick trial Log to see how things go.

[TheNinja]

Originally Posted by Lanbane

Should work fine man.... interested to see how that dosing scheme works out for ya!

ya, dosing scheme seems better now. I really like the overall attitude and feel while on this stuff. I think I just feel more confident and alert.


Side Note: Yesterday's workout consisted of a quick 45 minute hike straight up and down a large hill/mountain.

[TheNinja]

Day 16
Workout - Chest/Shoulder/Tricep:

Bench Barbell:
12 @ 185
8 @ 225
6 @ 235
6 @ 235
9 @ 215
9 @ 210
Military Barbell:
5 @ 135 ouch
9 @ 125
8 @ 125
8 @ 125
7@ 125
Tricep Cable Pushdown:
12 @ 110
10 @ 120
8 @ 120
Overhead Tricep Dumbell:
10 @ 55
11 @ 55
Pushups with Feet on Bench:
20
12


Diet: Normal+ (4 Drive today + 3 RPM total )
Overall Feeling: Military struggled b/c I did bench first but I still feel like I got a good shoulder workout. Which brings me to bench. I felt GREAT on bench. I feel great now too. If I flex my chest/arms right now it's hard as a rock (I'm not bragging, I'm just stating that the pumps and the muscle hardness is CRAZY!)
Notes: Great overall attitude. I may have to pick up more Drive to keep this going. It took me a while to get settled, but this stuff is starting to KICK in hard. I feel good energy, great in the weight room, and pretty pumped overall. It's a very nice lean pump. I don't feel as "full" as when I'm on a creatine pump, but I feel very strong, lean, and hard.

Side Note: I'm trying a 2 day split type of thing for a couple weeks maybe. This will allow me to hit each body part 1x every 3-4 days instead of 6-8 days. I'll be doing heavy low sets once workout, then lighter with more reps and dumbell work the next workout. I guess this is losely based on that DoggCrapp routine?

Thumbs Up for Drive + RPM combo!

[TheNinja]

This stuff is starting to build up. Today for the first time in quite a while, I actually jumped out of bed with energy and feel like I'm on crack this morning. I think I got the dosages figured out and it's building up in my system or something. I have no idea if this works similar to IGF-2, but that also took me about 2 weeks before it really kicked in.

[TheNinja]

Day 18 (yesterday's workout)
Workout - Squat/Back/Biceps:

Bench Barbell:
12 @ 185
11 @ 225
8 @ 235
8 @ 235
9 @ 225
9 @ 225
T-Bar Row (45er stuck in a corner) :
12 @ 80
12 @ 100
9 @ 110
8 @ 110
8 @ 110
9 @ 100
Curved Bar (I don't know how much it weighs) :
9 @ 35 on each side
6 @ 35
7 @ 35
Seated Hammer:
10 @ 35
8 @ 35


Diet: Normal+ (4 Drive today + 3 RPM total)
Overall Feeling: Another good workout. I took my time between sets, my back was quite strong today and I got a GREAT feeling doing those rows. My biceps didn't have a great day, perhaps the rows contributed to their downfall?
Notes: I still like the all day feeling I get while on this stuff...well except for the fact that I seem to be hot all the time. People are wearing long sleeves complaining, and I'm trying to open a window with my T-shirt on. My legs and glutes are sore today.[/QUOTE]

[TheNinja]

Day 20 (Saturday's workout)
Workout - Chest/Shoulder/Tricep:

Dumbell Dumbell / Dumbell Fly combo:
4 sets / 4 sets
Incline Dumbell / Incline Fly combo:
2 sets / 2 sets
Side Raise / Front Raise / Dumbell Press:
5 sets / 5 sets / 5 sets
Single Arm Tricep:
2 sets
Overhead Tricep Cable / Cable Pushdown:
3 sets / 3 sets

Diet: Normal (4 Drive today + 2 RPM total)
Overall Feeling: Well this is my first time of doing the chest/shoulder/tricep combo with only 3-4 days of rest per body part instead of my normal 7 days. I can tell the difference in my strength as my numbers suffered. However I had a very intense workout and felt like I got a good muscle pump. I was very mentally strong and aggressive, basically just an attitude of "I'm here to throw some weights around, so get out of my way". Although I didn't come across as an ego-maniac to others nor act rude to them, I only thought it in my mind
Notes: Since I'm writing this on Monday and I worked out on Saturday, I can tell you the DOMS is killing! It actually feels nice as my chest is pretty sore. Last night when flexing (come on we all do it ) I looked lean and felt very hard. I'm not at the top of my body weight, but all of my lifts are pretty much at personal bests and I feel very good in general. So far I'm pretty pleased.

[TheNinja]

Day 22
Workout - Legs/Back/Biceps:

Leg Extenstions:
5 sets
Good Morning:
5 sets
Single Leg Calf on Bench:
3 sets

Pulldown:
5 sets
Bent Row Dumbells:
5 sets

Alternating Dumbell Curl:
3 sets
Concentration Curl:
2 sets
Forearm Curl:
3 sets

Workout Note: I'm trying to go from exercise to exercise quickly on my high rep day. For example, from extension, immediately into good morning and then into single calf raise. Take 1 minute rest and do it again. I'm trying to keep my heart rate up and get some good reps and pumps in. Next Leg/Back/Bicep workout will be low reps, less sets, and more rest between.

Diet: Normal+ (Drive + RPM = 2+1 morning, 2+1 1 hour before workout, 1 RPM dissolved in water 15 minutes before workout )
Overall Feeling: VERY good energy in the gym today. I had to force myself to rest between sets. It's hard for me to gauge the strength aspect b/c I'm trying some new exercises and a totally new workout split. GREAT pumps in my legs and biceps today. My mind was willing and if fact even now I want to throw more weights around, but my muscles are shot. I could hardly bend my arms and forearms enough to take water from the sink to splash on my face...lol. Even now, typing is locking up my forearms..heh.
Notes: I've mentioned before, but I am much more confident and social. I believe it is partially b/c I am feeling the "ups" of the Drive and RPM...but partially b/c I feel very tight and muscular when I walk around so it just gives me confidence that I'm stronger and look good

[nosnmiveins]

so whats this about dissolving the RPM pre workout?? just gets absorbed faster? any other benefits?

[dWood]

do tell...whats with dissolving it??

[TheNinja]

oh, the dissolving of an RPM is just a trick I like to use. It isn't a recommendation from AppNut, but I find that if I take 1 RPM capsule, open it up, and dump it in about 4-5oz of water. And then guzzle the water quickly, that in about 15 minutes it hits quite hard and really gets me going. I start getting hotter and can feel a good energy going. It doesn't last as long as the full capsule form, but it seems to last about an hour for me. Sometimes I'll do 2 dissolved in water but you better be ready for it

I also use this trick if I'm not by my stash of RPM 1 hour before I lift. IF I have to quick run to my stash, dissolve a few and then go lift in 15 minutes.

[dWood]

might have to try that next time thanks...Terri James(have my own log-a womans drive log even though I started it on my husbands sign in name