JohnyQ in: "attack of the AN stack: Neovar, RPM, DRIVE, and lipotrophin PM"

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  1. 10/18 Day 15



    Morning cardio
    none


    workout

    Third day of the new program.


    Incline DB bench
    (target: for max reps)

    I didn't really know what max reps meant, I assumed 20-30ish.

    30s x40ish
    35s x 25
    35s x 22
    40s x 20
    40s x 18


    Pull-ups with SS of scarecrows

    12 PUs SS 20s x 10
    9 PUs SS 20s x 8
    8 PUs SS 20s x 8


    DB Mil Press
    (target 8-12 reps)

    35s x 12
    35s x 11
    40s x 8
    40s x 8


    BB Shrugs w/ SS BB curls
    (8-10 reps)

    135 x 12 SS 95 x 8
    185 x 8 SS 95 x 7
    185 x 8 SS 90 x 7



    15 fairly intense HIITS on the treadmill


    dosing
    6 DRIVEtoday.

    3 in the morning, 3 preworkout. 2 RPM preworkout as well.



    Overall feelings:


    This new program is a lot of fun. The low reps, long rest periods, I was sticking to was obviously boring me. This feels radically different and very intense.


    workout felt great, I was focused and had tons of energy. The HIITs at the end was the most intense I have done yet (sprint on every minute for 30 seconds, then a jog).


    6 drive was definitely a step up, and it felt good. I'll continue this dosing for a bit.



    Stats:



    Weight: 179 (+0)

    I can't even believe my weight hasn't done a damn thing! Even with all of this new cardio!


    Well the good news is my belt when down a loop


  2. 10/19 Day 16



    Morning cardio
    none


    workout

    Day 4 of the new program.


    Squat
    10/9
    135 x8 ---135 x8
    155 x5 ---155 x 5
    185 x5 ---185 x5
    ----------190 x 5
    ----------195 x 5
    ----------200 x 5
    205 x4 ---205 x 3
    205 x3 ---------



    Bulgarian split squats w/DBs
    25s x 8x 8
    30s x 7 x 7
    30s x 7 x 7



    Romanian deadlift

    135 x 8 x 8 x 8


    high rep ab circuit



    no cardio


    dosing
    6 DRIVEtoday.

    3 in the morning, 3 preworkout. 2 RPM preworkout as well.



    Overall feelings:

    I honestly feel like I'm trimming up nicely now. I'll definitely take an updated picture next week. I hope it verifies what I'm seeing in the mirror.

    workout felt great. Intensity is up there, and endurance was good. I didn't see any real strength gains, although the only thing I have to compare was squats, everything else was new.



    Stats:



    Weight: 179 (+0)
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  3. 10/22 Day 19


    workout

    BB bench, flat
    (3-5 reps)

    10/15-------today
    warmup ---- warmup
    185 x 5 ---- 185 x 5
    190 x 5 -----------
    195 x 5 ---- 195 x 5
    200 x 5------------
    205 x 4 ---- 205 x 5
    ------------ 210 x 4
    ------------ 215 x 3 (slight assist on rep 3)

    Incline DB bench
    (target 15-20 reps)

    50s x 16
    50s x 14

    Bent BB rows, with SS of scarecrows
    135 x 9 SS 5s x 8
    145 x 8 SS 5s x 8
    145 x 8 SS 5s x 6

    BB shrugs

    155 x 11
    165 x 8
    165 x 8
    165 x 8


    seated incline DB curls

    30s x 8
    30s x 8
    30s x 6
    30s x 6



    dosing

    as of now: Out of neovar

    Tomorrow I will start taking 3g of creatine gluconate post workout, as it is what I have sitting around. I'll comment on if I see a difference from the change in creatine.


    Otherwise, I took standard dosing today. Recap of what that means:

    morning: swell, 1 egcg, 3 drive

    pre-workout: swell, 3 drive, 2 RPM

    post workout: whey protein, creatine

    before bed: 2 lipotrophin PM


    Overall feelings:

    It looks like my bench press went up slightly, I think if I did a 1RM it would be up 5 pounds.

    Pump was good today. Gym felt good as well. I had energy for cardio after the workout, but not the drive. It was time to head home and get some dinner.


    Stats:


    ARM: 15.25 (+.25")
    weight: 178 (-1lb)

  4. Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    10/22 Day 19


    workout

    BB bench, flat
    (3-5 reps)

    10/15-------today
    warmup ---- warmup
    185 x 5 ---- 185 x 5
    190 x 5 -----------
    195 x 5 ---- 195 x 5
    200 x 5------------
    205 x 4 ---- 205 x 5
    ------------ 210 x 4
    ------------ 215 x 3 (slight assist on rep 3)

    Incline DB bench
    (target 15-20 reps)

    50s x 16
    50s x 14

    Bent BB rows, with SS of scarecrows
    135 x 9 SS 5s x 8
    145 x 8 SS 5s x 8
    145 x 8 SS 5s x 6

    BB shrugs

    155 x 11
    165 x 8
    165 x 8
    165 x 8


    seated incline DB curls

    30s x 8
    30s x 8
    30s x 6
    30s x 6



    dosing

    as of now: Out of neovar

    Tomorrow I will start taking 3g of creatine gluconate post workout, as it is what I have sitting around. I'll comment on if I see a difference from the change in creatine.


    Otherwise, I took standard dosing today. Recap of what that means:

    morning: swell, 1 egcg, 3 drive

    pre-workout: swell, 3 drive, 2 RPM

    post workout: whey protein, creatine


    Overall feelings:

    It looks like my bench press went up slightly, I think if I did a 1RM it would be up 5 pounds.

    Pump was good today. Gym felt good as well. I had energy for cardio after the workout, but not the drive. It was time to head home and get some dinner.


    Stats:


    ARM: 15.25 (+.25")
    weight: 178 (-1lb)
    Do you notice any stomach discomfort at 3 caps of Drive in the am? I had some when I experimented with 4 caps in the am, so I was just wondering.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    Do you notice any stomach discomfort at 3 caps of Drive in the am? I had some when I experimented with 4 caps in the am, so I was just wondering.
    nope. I had some good bowel movements in the morning for the first 3 days or so, but nothing odd for a while now.



    I haven't noticed any bad sides at all in fact, although I did have trouble falling asleep on thursday night. I need to get some abyss!
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  6. Updated pictures, first set are "befores, then the afters (today). Sorry that I changed the format of the pictures, but I get better images when I let my wife take the pictures for me.


    10/02

    9/17

    10/02



    Today:


    Today:

  7. Looked to have leaned out! Good work. Keep it up!

  8. Definitely look leaner

  9. Thanks! I'm very pleased with how those images compare, although I think the current images came out better than I really look (maybe the light washed out some chub). I have no complaints, It was only 5 months ago that I had no definable muscle and was fairly ROUND, I'm very happy with how I have changed.

    I have to think this stack is working to see that much change in 3 weeks....plenty of work to be done though!

    As a recap: I haven't altered my diet any, in fact it may have been worse these past 3 weeks. I did add in more cardio, and yet lost NO weight. I'm just dropping fat and keeping my strength.


    10/24 Day 21


    workout

    Box jumps

    worked up to 15 of the aerobic steps stacked on eachother

    7 sets x 3 reps


    Reverse lunges, front foot raised 1 stepper
    25s x 8
    20s x 8
    20s x 8
    20s x 8

    Pull throughs
    50 x 10
    60 x 10
    70 x 10
    80 x 8

    leg raises

    +5lbs x 8
    +0 x 12
    +0 x 12
    +0 x 12




    dosing
    Night: 2 lipotrophin
    morning: 3 drive, 1 whey shake
    pre-workout: 3 drive, 3 RPM (1 rpm more than normal)
    post workout: 3g creatine gluconate (out of neovar), whey shake



    Overall feelings:

    Great workout, very tiring. I love this new program.


    It rained today, I think it made me depressed. On top of the fact its supposed to be an off day (I couldn't go yesterday), so I was REALLY unmotivated. Drive and RPM got me there, and I busted my ass while I was there.


    My libido continues to be through the roof. I probably have a slightly higher one than normal as it is, but now its almost become a nuisance...


    Bowel movements have been abnormal, but not bothersome in any way.


    My sleep has been pretty crappy. I think I've become accustomed to the lipoptrophin PM. I haven't been able to wake up for cardio all week so far because of it, which really sucks. I'll probably cycle off of it for 2 weeks once my abyss gets here.



    Stats:


    ARM: 15.25 (+.25")
    weight: 178 (-1lb)

  10. Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post

    Bowel movements have been abnormal, but not bothersome in any way.


    My sleep has been pretty crappy.
    man that has to be messy

  11. That is THE WORST way to wake up .....


    ok so my sleep hasn't been crappy, its just been hard to fall asleep and not good quality.

  12. last week wasn't too great. I tried to workout friday and completely lacked motivation/energy for the first time in a while. Oh well, back in the game today...


    10/29 Day 26


    workout

    BB bench, flat
    (3-5 reps)

    10/22-------today
    warmup ---- warmup
    185 x 5 ---- 185 x 5
    195 x 5 ------------
    205 x 5 ---- 205 x 5
    210 x 4 ---- 210 x 4
    215 x 2 ---- 215 x 3
    ------------ 220 x2
    ------------ 225 x 1


    Incline DB bench
    (target 15-20 reps)

    50s x 15
    50s x 15

    Bent BB rows, with SS of scarecrows
    155 x 9 SS 5s x 8
    155 x 8 SS 5s x 8
    135 x 10 SS 5s x 6

    BB shrugs

    155 x 11
    165 x 8
    165 x 8



    seated incline DB curls

    30s x 9
    30s x 8
    30s x 6




    dosing

    dropped back down to 5 drive a day. 2 RPM pre workout.

    Started by 2 week break from lipotrophin on saturday. So my stack no longer includes lipotrophin or neovar.


    Stats:


    ARM: 14.75 (-.25") <wth happened
    weight: 178 (-1lb)



    Overall feelings:

    Not much change in my workout. I had good energy, and it felt good working out, but no strength gains.


    My arm is suddenly a lot smaller (.5" from last week). I have to wonder if I wasn't permanently pumped from the noevar, and now that I haven't been taking it, the pump is gone. Very odd. Its not a measurement I'm particularly concerned about, but its one of the easiest to record and track.


    Hopefully tomorrow I can get back on the morning cardio train. I have been longboarding to work, and that is a little bit of cardio at least.

  13. 10/30 Day 27


    workout

    Box jumps

    worked up to 15 of the aerobic steps stacked on eachother

    7 sets x 3 reps


    stack didn't get higher, but I worked on doing the 3 reps, one right after another. Much harder that way..


    Bulgarian split squats
    35s x 4
    20s x 8
    20s x 8


    Pull throughs
    50 x 12
    60 x 12
    70 x 10


    leg raises

    x 8
    x 12
    x 12
    x 12




    dosing

    2 drive in the morning, 3 drive and 3 RPM pre workout. This was 1 RPM more than normal.




    Overall feelings:


    This workout day really kicks my ass, but I had great energy/intensity for it. Good day.


    Stats:


    weight: 177 (-2lb)

    my arm is still deflated...

  14. blow into your finger

  15. 11/2 Day 30


    workout

    Squats
    warmup
    185x5
    195x5
    205x3
    205x2
    135x8

    Bulgarian split squats
    30s x 6
    30s x 6
    30s x 6


    romanian deadlifts
    135 x 8
    155 x 8
    155 x 8


    Ab circuit




    dosing

    2 drive in the morning, 3 drive and 3 RPM pre workout. This was 1 RPM more than normal.




    Overall feelings:


    I have a weird strain in my lower back. Paying attention to it, as it is in the same place one would experience kidney pain. Its probably muscle related due to all the longboarding I have been doing lately.




    Stats:


    weight: 177 (-2lb)


    I'll probably go ahead and write my final reviews soon since the drive is almost out.

  16. Well I'm off this stack completely as of monday.


    I did a 1RM bench test last night and hit 240lbs, which means no increase since the beginning. I did however run out of creatine halfway through, which means I didn't see a loss in strength, which is good.

    I did hit my goal of 10RM on the overhead squat (which was 85pounds...up 20pounds). This is due both to endurance and to getting better at the movement, which is mostly attributable to the new routine.



    FULL REVIEW:

    neovar: The huge pumps had become so normal I had no idea they were happening. I was getting comments about looking jacked while on it, and when I got off I got comments about losing weight. My arms shrank .5" when I came off. This is no joke, I can't believe this stuff. I will be buying this again. It obviously has more uses than just pumps, but they are harder to comment on. It seems like it might be a great added benefit when cutting, but I can't comment 100%.



    RPM:
    I have reviewed this before, and my feeling hasn't changed. Its the backbone of my supplements because it keeps me in the gym consistently. Doesn't matter how tired I am after work, I get in the gym and hit it hard. It is also a solid value. The only thing I have negative, is that I did seem to build up a tolerance some, but dropping it on non workout days helped. It wasn't just energy, sometimes I would start raging, I guess they call this alpha male. Its nice in the gym, but its odd to be angry when you usually aren't.


    Lipotrophin PM: I'm a little torn on this. It seemed to do a good job of knocking me out at night, but the sleep didn't seem that great. Between this and drive I did see a recomping effect, as you can hopefully tell in the pictures I posted in this thread. Which one played the bigger role? I have half a bottle of this left, and I will pick it up again after my next log. This stuff is a great value at 2 a night, and at the very least you know the green tea in it works for losing fat.


    Drive: I think the most I can say about this is what people can see in my pictures. It seemed to have a strong recomping effect. Now that I'm off it, I can see myself gaining fat easier than before as well. The first few days I took it with RPM, I had a kicking thermogenic effect, but that diminished with time. My strength gains were zero, but I did come off of creatine (neovar) halfway through, which usually means a drop in strength...so this may be a toss up. My libido shot way up, way way up. I also had a definite increase in acne, to which I am prone to anyways.


    Negative/sides: very mild change in BM frequency. Nothing bad, at least IMO. The one that does concern me is I have kidney region pain recently. This could very likely be muscle strain from my new activity (longboarding), but I don't know. I think if anyone else pops up with this issue, it is worth pursuing. It is part of the reason I have ended this log now, so I am concerned by it. Assuming this turns up to be a non issue, I intend on buying all of these products and using them again in the future.





    Thank you AN for the neovar and drive, I greatly appreciate it!

  17. nice log for sure johnny!
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