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Sponsored NEOVAR log + DRIVE.

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I have been running NEOVAR solo for about 2 weeks now(Solo neovar log can be seen HERE, and really enjoying the effects so far. It is now time to throw DRIVE into the mix. I will be dosing my first caps of drive tomorrow pre-workout.

I finished an epistane pulse cycle about a month ago, and my libido is really suffering because of it. I am hoping with the addition of DRIVE, i can get some libido back. Also hoping to continue the progress i have been making in the gym, and really solidify my gains. I like supps that give me a sense of well being, and some agression/motivation. SO if drive lives up to the hype it should be perfect for me.

Starting Weight
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Training Style-

Dc Training. I have been doing this with great results for some time now.

Diet-
I am going to be following the Scivation Lean Mass Diet. i will be following the 3500cal outline. Details on "The lean mass Diet" can be seen HERE

Goals-
Short term goals is to gain 10lbs of LBM over the winter. And really focus on getting as strong as possable. Long term i would really like to see myself at 210 10-11% bf. So that is about 25-30lbs of lean mass i would need to get me there.

Neovar dosing Training days-
I will be dosing 4caps 15min before i eat my pre workout meal(5:30am). I am usually in the gym an hour after i eat my preworkout meal. Second dose will be post workout 15min prior to my post workout meal. Both my pre-workout, and post-workout meals contain 75g of carbs consisting of oats, and fruit.


Neovar dosing non-training days-

I will dose 4 caps 15 min prior to breakfast, and 4 caps 15min prior to my 4th meal(3pm or so)

DRIVE dosing training days-
2 caps 15min prior to my pre-workout meal(5:30am). Will be dosed with my neovar pre workout. Second dose will be about 1pm about 15 min prior to eating a meal.


DRIVE dosing NON-training days-
I will be dosing 2 caps first thing in the am with my neovar, 15min prior to eating. Second dose will be around 1pm, also 15min before a meal.


Other Supplements-

I am really trying to level the playing field here, and will only be taking Orange Triad(multi vit.), and Dymatize Elite whey, along with the NEOVAR + Drive.

I will update tomorrow after i train, with some initial impressions. Can't wait! Thanks Lanbane, and the AN Team for entrusting me to log these products.
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Yeah bro - I'm doing the best I can right now. Still hitting the gym; just on crutches. Thanks for the concern.

I've got 2 bottles each of NeoVar and DRIVE - just have to wait a bit before trying them out. Hopefully you'll enjoy them!

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subbed!..I feel for ya imprez. I still suffer from some libido issues and its been about 2 months since my epi cycle. Aspire always does the trick for me tho. The drive gives me more of a sensitive feeling down there more than it gives me a boost in libido. Good luck will be following.



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Update 10/05(Drive day 1)

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NEOVAR
Dosed 4 caps 15min prior to my pre workout meal. And 4 caps post workout 15 min prior to eating my post workout meal.. Pre and post workout meals consist of roughly 75g's of carbs coming from oats, and fruit.

DRIVE
Took my first 2 caps of drive with my neovar 15min prior to my pre workout meal. I will take the second 2 caps later today around 1pm.

Notes-
Had a GREAT workout. I definetly had good focus, energy and intensity today in the gym. The most notible things for me were the increased sweating, and pumps. I was sweating quite a bit more then usual, and earlier on.

Focus was slightly better then a normal "good"day for me. I am pretty in tuned with the pumps i get without any supps, and now with neovar solo, so i can definetly attribute added pumps to DRIVE. It really early to tell anything else, so will have to wait on that. I really noticed some great intensity on leg press. Also i usually don't hit abs on leg day, as i am gassed after my widow maker, but today i hit abs after my legs.

I am hoping it can salvage my libido a bit..lol

Training Log
Code:
			     LT			         TT
Incline DB Curlsl-       -------                        35x13rp
Rev Curls-               -------                        50x8
Hack Machine Calf-       -------    		        90x10       
Standing leg curl-       -------		        70x19rp
Leg Press-	         -------                  680x13   590x20
Training Notes

Incline DB curls I was reading a post by DC about trying these by holding the dumbell with your thumb, and index finger pressed against the inside of the dB rather then holding in the center of the handle. So i decided to try these that way, as to change up for a while. I had to lower my working weight by a pretty decent chunk on these, but they really killed my bi's. I will leave these at the same weight next week, and try and hit 15rp.

Reverse Curls These felt great. had my forearms swollen. Will leave these the same weight and try and bust out 2-3 more reps next week.

Hack machine calf raises- Just added these into my routine, and they felt awesome. Going to up the weight next time. These really killed my calves.

Standing leg curl- Going to increase the weight here next time. .

Leg PressThese are where my added focus, and intensity was most notable. When doing my heavy set, at 8 i felt like i was going to fail. I ended up busting out 5 more reps out of pure intensity. Felt awesome. The 20 rep widow maker killed my quads.
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subbed!..I feel for ya imprez. I still suffer from some libido issues and its been about 2 months since my epi cycle. Aspire always does the trick for me tho. The drive gives me more of a sensitive feeling down there more than it gives me a boost in libido. Good luck will be following.
Thanks man!

Yea it sucks. I am hoping drive will help out a bit in that Dept.
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Yea it sucks. I am hoping drive will help out a bit in that Dept.
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Ive been taking my 5 neovar in the morning and the other 5 post w/o. Have you tried it this way and your way worked better? If so please let me know so I can do that.



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I'm doing pretty good at 4 am and 4 post wo but I might just go up to 10 or even 12 per day. Enjoying it so far.





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I'm doing pretty good at 4 am and 4 post wo but I might just go up to 10 or even 12 per day. Enjoying it so far.
yeah Im liking 10 a lot more than I like 8 and now your tempting me to go to 12! What the hell I got 2 more bottles comin my way.



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Training Notes

Incline DB curls I was reading a post by DC about trying these by holding the dumbell with your thumb, and index finger pressed against the inside of the dB rather then holding in the center of the handle. So i decided to try these that way, as to change up for a while. I had to lower my working weight by a pretty decent chunk on these, but they really killed my bi's. I will leave these at the same weight next week, and try and hit 15rp.

Leg PressThese are where my added focus, and intensity was most notable. When doing my heavy set, at 8 i felt like i was going to fail. I ended up busting out 5 more reps out of pure intensity. Felt awesome. The 20 rep widow maker killed my quads.
Nice detail bro.

Charles Poliquin has recommended hold the DB's the same way.
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Ive been taking my 5 neovar in the morning and the other 5 post w/o. Have you tried it this way and your way worked better? If so please let me know so I can do that.
Well i wake up at 515, take them immedietly, and eat 15 min later, then shoot right to the gym. Then when i get home from the gym(8am)i take em, and eat 15 min later again. So i think we are pretty similar routine, just i workout first thing in the am.

ANd you and bio man, are making me want to up it to 10.. I think i may if that is cool with AN.?!

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Well i wake up at 515, take them immedietly, and eat 15 min later, then shoot right to the gym. Then when i get home from the gym(8am)i take em, and eat 15 min later again. So i think we are pretty similar routine, just i workout first thing in the am.

ANd you and bio man, are making me want to up it to 10.. I think i may if that is cool with AN.?!

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If you raise the dose and either start feeling hypoglycemic or get the runs or soft stool, up the carbs an extra 10g or so.



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Yup! Those he does talk about that as well. They were different, that is forsure.lol
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If you raise the dose and either start feeling hypoglycemic or get the runs or soft stool, up the carbs an extra 10g or so.
Ill keep that in mind! How long prior to eating do u dose ur neovar?

Ill ask him.. but ur probally right, and will tell me to go ahead..LOL
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About 20 minutes prior to some carbs in the am...usually a big whole wheat bagel and protein shake. Haven't felt hypo yet though.





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About 20 minutes prior to some carbs in the am...usually a big whole wheat bagel and protein shake. Haven't felt hypo yet though.
i have yet to feel hypo either..

What do you think LANBANE? Can i up it to 10? Or stick it out at 8?
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Ive gone as low as 15g carbs and didnt get the hypo.



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Try 10 and see how you react to it. Have some carbs nearby just in case you do go hypo.



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Try 10 and see how you react to it. Have some carbs nearby just in case you do go hypo.
Ill try it starting tomorrow as it is an off day. Mabey i will experiment, and take 5 and wait it out for a while and see if i feel any signs of going hypo.

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be prepared for anabolic dumps if you do that

any longer than maybe 45 min to 1 hr between taking neovar and eating carbs and you will be "running for the border" if you are taking 5. Trust me, its worse with yellow gold or P-slin



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any longer than maybe 45 min to 1 hr between taking neovar and eating carbs and you will be "running for the border" if you are taking 5. Trust me, its worse with yellow gold or P-slin
Really? I have take AP before, and it did nothing for me. No anabolic dumps, no pumps, no nothing..lol I have tried waiting out the AP, and i never got hypo, or the dumps.

I will take ur word for it, as i don't want to find out the hard way..lol
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Ha-Ha! Yeah, we're in the same boat. AP or P-SLIN did nothing for me - except make me feel nasty because of all the carbs you have to take in order for it to "work." More hype than anything.

NEOVAR, however, seems to really make me feel fuller and less bloated after taking it and eating half the carbs "needed" as opposed to AP.

Hypo? - Not yet. Dumps? - Thank god NO. LoL

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Really? I have take AP before, and it did nothing for me. No anabolic dumps, no pumps, no nothing..lol I have tried waiting out the AP, and i never got hypo, or the dumps.

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