Father and son Drive
- 10-19-2007, 05:21 PM
- 10-22-2007, 10:02 AM
Ok I finally did a weigh in and I did not lose any weight this is very odd as I know I've lost a least an inch off my waist.
This product may end up being better than I anticipated. The last time I experienced this I was on a solo of Halodrol. I will have to see what happens this week.
Libido did settle down somewhat but still feels higher than normal.
Will be back at the gym tonight and will try to push the envelope again. Its strange I feel energized but the as far as feeling stronger, well it's kind of subtle but every time I go to the gym my lifts are up. I do feel harder no doubt.
10-22-2007, 10:33 AM
10-22-2007, 12:33 PM
The results seem intriguing so far yes. This is going to be a very interesting week. I have to validate what I think is happening is happening. I can't believe the weight thing. I will weigh in again a week from Saturday. Going to be interesting.
10-23-2007, 09:40 AM
Well it finally happened bad day at the gym.
The circumstances are that I was extremely tired though. I knew I didn't get enough sleep and I was not at all surprised at the poor performance. Another thing that I was thinking though is that this constant muscle stimulation feeling could be hard on the system and I may need to get extra rest. Combined with the fact that sleeping on this product is not easy at first, I think that when taking this product one must be more dilligent about getting their beauty sleep. This is somethng I tend to rectify by getting to bed earlier.
10-25-2007, 12:34 PM
Last night was a bit better lifts were up but I did have some endurance issues, nothing serious just a little tired by adding the extra weight. I wasn't breathing that well either, I feel a little conjested.
I am expecting better things tonight as I have had very good rest. I am feeling very hard and pumped today, and the fat is definitely slowly melting away.
Libido is just slightly above normal, as it seems to have settled some. This could be an ebb and flow thing.
I am experiencing some increased focus/aggresion and this feeling increases as I get more rest. Again can't stress enough, sleep lots.
10-25-2007, 12:49 PM
10-25-2007, 01:02 PM
Well I have really noticed a big difference with positive aspects of the product based on the amount of sleep I get. I know that this is the case no matter what you are or not taking, but I find that the difference is somewhat more prominant while taking drive.
The reason I thing is that the effects of this product places high high demand on the body for various reasons, such as muscle repair and increased intensity during workouts. What about the increased thermogenic effects. These factors all add up to make a person very fatigued especially at my age. When I get a good nights rest (like 9 hours) I feel greatly rejuvenated and get a lot more out of the positive effects.
10-30-2007, 12:45 PM
Haven't done an update for a while, my leg day was very good and I was well rested was really able to push the envelope. I actually had to add a bit of volume to my routine, I did a drop set on squats for my last set. Legs were quite sore and tight over the weekend.
I have upped the dosage of drive to 8 a day as I am close to 260 and I have heard others have success at this dose. The results from tonight should tell me a lot about the difference in doses.
Libido remains above normal, and I feel tight and the muscle energy seems fairly constant. I could do with a bit more sleep though. I have some left over REM I might add that before bedtime see if it helps.
10-30-2007, 01:27 PM
You last two posts are confusing. One your stating you are sleeping extremely well and the other you are saying you could use a better nights sleep. Just curious...
10-30-2007, 01:42 PM
ok I had good rest last week when I did squats but the last couple of days I have not gotten the rest I needed due to the libido increase caused by the product. :chick:
10-30-2007, 01:51 PM
oh and also the increased dosage is also a contributor I'm sure but I will likely adjust. In the meantime I will see what the REM does.
10-31-2007, 12:36 PM
10-31-2007, 01:46 PM
Another good workout last nights, and I made a conscious effort to get a good nights rest. My lifts didnít go up but I got all my reps and was using respectable weight. My stamina seemed slightly improved.
I can see the fat disappearing and my muscles feel hard. Recovery does not seem as difficult as I always have that muscle buzz. (For lack of a better term).
I have noticed one thing very different; it seems the nervous system takes quite a beating, on this product. This is another reason I think that more sleep is required. There are times when I get tired I really feel the decrease in neural response. This improves when I am more rested. Now again I know this is a natural response but it seems to be elevated by the use of drive which I believe stimulates the nervous system to some degree like I said in earlier posts. Rest is something we need to recuperate the nervous system, as well as our muscles.
I have decided to extend the use of drive to 12 weeks to see what it does over the long haul as I have read good things. I had been planning on a cycle of Mega-Trn and Axis Labs Zol clone as I had some extra product left over from a year ago. I had enough for two good cycles and was planning on not letting the Mega-Trn go to waste so I ordered the Zol Clone. I have decided to keep it natural because of my age. Now I have all this excess product going to waste but I would rather be safe.
11-05-2007, 10:24 AM
Wow, I don't know what to say. I weighed in on Saturday expecting to be down around 5 lbs as I lost at least another inch on my waist in the last 2 weeks. I did not lose an once, this is twice this has happened. I have lost about 2 inches around my waist in the last 4 weeks and have not lost any weight.
But there's more; my muscles are turning into stone.
I can see some very nice size improvement.
My strength has increased steadily, sometimes even in bounds.
I feel 10 years younger.
Oh and Libido, well you guys probably don't want to know.
I will definitley be staying on the product for 12 weeks and running 8 a day.
I am not going to even bother with anabolics that require PCT, why the heck would I.
I just hope that the product keeps on working like it has.
11-05-2007, 05:25 PM
11-06-2007, 10:55 AM
11-06-2007, 02:49 PM
Really nice workout last night, a new routine so it's hard to compare but I was stronger than I expected, or as strong as I expected would probably more accurate, as I went in feeling very strong.
I noticed I am starting to taper, at 264!!! this is nuts.
Hardness is very very good.
Energy is excellent as long as I get the sleep I need.
After browsing a couple other logs, I am starting to feel that this may work even better for older folks.
I got another kind of shock this moring as I decided to try on a pair of pants that I wore when I was like 245. I actually got into them and they weren't that tight. This is crazy.
Cardio tonight, I do 45 minutes of slow eleptical. Keep my heart rate at fat burn. I may throw some inerval training in later on but if it ain't broke....
11-14-2007, 09:08 AM
Been a while since my last update got busy.
Anyhow the waist has continued to get smaller.
Muscle hardness is still evident.
The euphoric muscle feeling is still evident, but not as prominent.
There is defenite signs of muscle gain, and weight loss, this Saturdays weigh in should be very interesting. I will be shocked if I am still 260 plus as I have really lost quite a bit of fat.
Workouts are good, second week of a new routine so I will be able to make some comparisons shortly.
11-15-2007, 09:17 AM
Balistic workout last night, there is some defenite (slight) strength increase, but I am doing a high intensity routine and strength tends to fade fast. Much better than last week though. I was an animal in the gym good focus, sustained effort, fast pace. No screwin around.
Even though the euphoria has faded somewhat I still feel the other benefits, muscle hardness focus etc..
Can't wait to hammer my shoulders and arms tonight. I'm going to tear it up.
11-19-2007, 05:06 PM
Fantastic workouts during the weekend, some real surprises on leg day. The strength gains are really sneaky on this product, I go to the gym not feeling any stronger and then wow whare did that come from. I really tore myself up so I'm really feeling it.
I weighed in and finally I am a little below 260, which is about right so the muscle gain was not there like before, but there is no way in hell I lost any either. I have no business being this lean at 260. I mean I'm not really lean but a lot leaner than I would normally be at this weight.
Muscles continue to be hard, and have noticed some gains as well.
The only thing I don't see is a big increase in endurance. I think my routines are pretty ambitious for this stage of the game though.
I will finish up this week after 7 weeks and do for weeks of the NHA stack I have laying around and throw in some symetry and powerfull, I will start a heavy routine so I will probably using some cissus as well.
I have 3 more bottles of drive and plan to stack it with Leviathan reloaded and DCP to really lean out and increase hardness. Muscle size has never been much of a issue. Maintaining is while cutting and remaining hard always has been. I will be aiming to address my weaknesses. Leaner and harder are the key.
11-21-2007, 02:44 PM
Workout was good last night, I finally experienced better endurance now that I didn't increase the weight. I guess I as not noticing the endurance when I was was always pushing the wieght up. Go figure. I was very tired but I pushed through and was very pleased with the results.
My body is pretty tired today I must admit, I can feel the drive soothing my muscles though and I feel pretty good, very hard too.
I noticed some additional weight loss around my waist today so there is definitely steady fat loss. I would not be able to increase my strength in a calorie deficit they way I have without this product I assure you.
Even though I don't really feel it as much my results can be compared to the Halodrol cycles I did last year. When you consider all the time and money spent on setting up a PCT, this is a great thing to have happen using a herbal. My prediction when I continue with this product (stacking it with Leviathan and DCP) is I will be a very lean 235-240.
11-22-2007, 09:35 AM
11-22-2007, 02:04 PM
Well it's my last day on Drive for now. I really liked it and hope others have had a chance to benefit from my experience.
1. Muscle hardness was very good.
2. Libido was elevated some days quite a bit other a little bit.
3. There was definite muscle gain on a reduced calorie diet.
4. Waist went down about 3 inches while only losing around 5 lbs. excellent result comparable to Halodrol cycles.
5. Good recovery but this is really based on how much sleep you get, when you get a lot you feel great, when you don't you really feel tired. I believe proper sleep is the number one contributor to success using this supplement.
6. Strength went up steadily but a little slower than when on a compound like a prohormone or pro steroid making the effect of the supplement somewhat more subtle in this respect but when all is said and done, I believe it yields comparable results.
7. Intensity and muscle focus was one of the best attributes of the supplement.
So yes I will use it again. I will be doing a Leviathan, DCP and Drive stack/log come the new year.
For now I am going to use up some of my old supply of other supps. Use them or lose them.
11-22-2007, 05:44 PM
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