[justreading]

Recently the guys over at Nimbus took pitty on me and thew me a bone err bottle of Abyss to get my internal clock back on track.

I want to make this Log/Review and usefull to each of you as I can so in order to understand where I am coming from and determine if my experience will be apllicable to you, I will include more info on my own sleeping issues:

Background / Sleeping HELL info

I can't sleep before 2-3am, tranquilize me, beat me silly...do your worst but there is no way I can both sleep before 2-3am AND not be so drugged up to do so that the next day shot to hell...

Reviews of other sleeping products

Melatonin - 2-3 hours to "kick" then can fall asleep if and only if it is near my natural sleep time of 2am+++. The next day I am depressed and worthless to get anything done.

Gaba - little tingle and some energy, ZERO for sleep and also kills my phenubit tolerance which is very bad for me as someone who deals with anxiety and also works in sales.

Benadryl - At a high enough dose it will put me asleep before my set time BUT it also take 1.5 hours to do so and ruins me for the next day

Lunesta - 2-3 hours to work, needs to me taken VERY far away from food which messes up bodybuilding goals. The next day you literally just need to sleep all day... horrible, actually just stopped taking it eventhough its free.

Phenubit - On its own it does little for my sleep. I friggin love it for anxiety. Personally I like it mixed with stims like RPM to mellow out the anxiety but still have the energy and confidence (little tip to anyone with a high stress meeting, 2-3 RPM and half teasoop phenibut and you will NAIL it and feel like a CEO)

So as you see, nothing really has gotten my seal of approval. I think Nimbus wants to let Abyss prove it is the best my taking on my challenge:

PLEASE! Make me sleep BEFORE 2am and not feel like a friggin ZOMBIE the next day!!!!

[Cellardude]

subbed. I have trouble sleeping sometimes. Im up all night long. Good to see Nimbus Nutrition picked you as a logger. Awesome pick in my opinion.

[justreading]

Info on me and my bodybuilding life:

I am no angel, I've done every supp and super supp out there. I have been up to 240 at a high bf% all the way to 205 in the low low single digits. I personally feel I know my body VERY well from 9 years of experiments on myself. Right now I am on a zero carb diet and going to stop a cycle of super supps very soon. but am dealing with injury problems. My goals right now are just stay over 215 (currently 220) at 5'10" while not making my injury worse until I get health coverage and possibly a second surgery. This info should not effect my log though, if anything sleeping should be made harder by training less.

[prld2gr8ns]

Off to a very nice start JR.

[justreading]

Abyss just came!

Today is turning out to be a great day!

I was able to lift hard yesterday and I have no pain in my injured shoulder today, I am confirming a new job today after 6 months of not working and I have started the process to apply for police accademy.

This is a rare great day, Abyss should really help calm me down to sleep later...

I look forward to giving my honest opinion.

[xjsynx]

Sub.

Let's get some traffic in herre: I linked ya in my sig

[workin2005]

Subbed! Great start...this should be good!

Workin

[xjsynx]

Originally Posted by workin2005

Subbed! Great start...this should be good!

Workin

Not if you are a Sheep

[metroba]

Originally Posted by justreading

Abyss just came!

Today is turning out to be a great day!

I was able to lift hard yesterday and I have no pain in my injured shoulder today, I am confirming a new job today after 6 months of not working and I have started the process to apply for police accademy.

This is a rare great day, Abyss should really help calm me down to sleep later...

I look forward to giving my honest opinion.

First and foremost SUBB! Thats good the injury is gettin better. Believe me I know shoulder pain.
More money = more supps from NP!
This is the first night your tryin right? I think you will be surprised of how effective it really is. Good luck I will be following

[EasyEJL]

Ought to be interesting

[justreading]

Night 1

Well Tonight didn't knock my socks off but there were some changes felt.

I took 4 Abyss at 11:45 thinking the red sox game would end soon. I was already tired as all hell but I figured with my phenibut tolerance and wieght I should go right for a full dose. Since I was already very tired it was hard to tell if it made me sleepy. Eventually I got to bed when the game ended around 1am. Falling asleep didn't go so easy and I got my normal burst of late nioght energy but did fall asleep around 1:30.

Once asleep I had a feeling I can't describe, sort of like I was sleeping so hard that I was sinking into the bed haha. I woke up at 6:30 to go the bathroom and contemplated staying up. This is SOOOO not like me. Since I havent been working I always wake up at 11am after going to bed at 2:30-3. Like I said before my problems are going to bed at a normal time and waking up feeling un-refreshed. Anyway, at 6:30 I felt pretty good and while I was still a bit sleepy I was not tired and actually I had a hard time falling back asleep which is very unlike me. This was not great for the weekend but if it continues to provide this effect I will be soooooooooooo excited because I will have long work days starting soon and being able to feel good off of 5-6 hours sleep would be great.

So I eventually fell back asleep at 7am and then the next thing I knew it was 11am again. Overall I got a ton of sleep and got to bed a bit earlier than normal. I also really liked the feeling of being able to get up earlier because that is what I really want form this. I want to be able to go to bed earlier and wake up refreshed after less sleep.

For the first day my synopsis is: Intruiged and excited but not yet 100% sure what effects it caused. If the internal clock subtlties I felt last night continue or get stronger then this will be my favorite product ever. Time will tell!

[workin2005]

Originally Posted by justreading

Night 1

Well Tonight didn't knock my socks off but there were some changes felt.

I took 4 Abyss at 11:45 thinking the red sox game would end soon. I was already tired as all hell but I figured with my phenibut tolerance and wieght I should go right for a full dose. Since I was already very tired it was hard to tell if it made me sleepy. Eventually I got to bed when the game ended around 1am. Falling asleep didn't go so easy and I got my normal burst of late nioght energy but did fall asleep around 1:30.

Once asleep I had a feeling I can't describe, sort of like I was sleeping so hard that I was sinking into the bed haha. I woke up at 6:30 to go the bathroom and contemplated staying up. This is SOOOO not like me. Since I havent been working I always wake up at 11am after going to bed at 2:30-3. Like I said before my problems are going to bed at a normal time and waking up feeling un-refreshed. Anyway, at 6:30 I felt pretty good and while I was still a bit sleepy I was not tired and actually I had a hard time falling back asleep which is very unlike me. This was not great for the weekend but if it continues to provide this effect I will be soooooooooooo excited because I will have long work days starting soon and being able to feel good off of 5-6 hours sleep would be great.

So I eventually fell back asleep at 7am and then the next thing I knew it was 11am again. Overall I got a ton of sleep and got to bed a bit earlier than normal. I also really liked the feeling of being able to get up earlier because that is what I really want form this. I want to be able to go to bed earlier and wake up refreshed after less sleep.

For the first day my synopsis is: Intruiged and excited but not yet 100% sure what effects it caused. If the internal clock subtlties I felt last night continue or get stronger then this will be my favorite product ever. Time will tell!

Great feedback justreading! Looking forward to your future thoughts!

Workin

[metroba]

Originally Posted by justreading

Night 1

Well Tonight didn't knock my socks off but there were some changes felt.

I took 4 Abyss at 11:45 thinking the red sox game would end soon. I was already tired as all hell but I figured with my phenibut tolerance and wieght I should go right for a full dose. Since I was already very tired it was hard to tell if it made me sleepy. Eventually I got to bed when the game ended around 1am. Falling asleep didn't go so easy and I got my normal burst of late nioght energy but did fall asleep around 1:30.

Once asleep I had a feeling I can't describe, sort of like I was sleeping so hard that I was sinking into the bed haha. I woke up at 6:30 to go the bathroom and contemplated staying up. This is SOOOO not like me. Since I havent been working I always wake up at 11am after going to bed at 2:30-3. Like I said before my problems are going to bed at a normal time and waking up feeling un-refreshed. Anyway, at 6:30 I felt pretty good and while I was still a bit sleepy I was not tired and actually I had a hard time falling back asleep which is very unlike me. This was not great for the weekend but if it continues to provide this effect I will be soooooooooooo excited because I will have long work days starting soon and being able to feel good off of 5-6 hours sleep would be great.

So I eventually fell back asleep at 7am and then the next thing I knew it was 11am again. Overall I got a ton of sleep and got to bed a bit earlier than normal. I also really liked the feeling of being able to get up earlier because that is what I really want form this. I want to be able to go to bed earlier and wake up refreshed after less sleep.

For the first day my synopsis is: Intruiged and excited but not yet 100% sure what effects it caused. If the internal clock subtlties I felt last night continue or get stronger then this will be my favorite product ever. Time will tell!

Great review! Its good to hear you are already having "some" success. Lets just hope it get better by the day. That whole sinking into your bed feeling is exactly what I felt as I was falling asleep my first night. good luck to you.

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by justreading

Night 1

Well Tonight didn't knock my socks off but there were some changes felt.

I took 4 Abyss at 11:45 thinking the red sox game would end soon. I was already tired as all hell but I figured with my phenibut tolerance and wieght I should go right for a full dose. Since I was already very tired it was hard to tell if it made me sleepy. Eventually I got to bed when the game ended around 1am. Falling asleep didn't go so easy and I got my normal burst of late nioght energy but did fall asleep around 1:30.

Once asleep I had a feeling I can't describe, sort of like I was sleeping so hard that I was sinking into the bed haha. I woke up at 6:30 to go the bathroom and contemplated staying up. This is SOOOO not like me. Since I havent been working I always wake up at 11am after going to bed at 2:30-3. Like I said before my problems are going to bed at a normal time and waking up feeling un-refreshed. Anyway, at 6:30 I felt pretty good and while I was still a bit sleepy I was not tired and actually I had a hard time falling back asleep which is very unlike me. This was not great for the weekend but if it continues to provide this effect I will be soooooooooooo excited because I will have long work days starting soon and being able to feel good off of 5-6 hours sleep would be great.

So I eventually fell back asleep at 7am and then the next thing I knew it was 11am again. Overall I got a ton of sleep and got to bed a bit earlier than normal. I also really liked the feeling of being able to get up earlier because that is what I really want form this. I want to be able to go to bed earlier and wake up refreshed after less sleep.

For the first day my synopsis is: Intruiged and excited but not yet 100% sure what effects it caused. If the internal clock subtlties I felt last night continue or get stronger then this will be my favorite product ever. Time will tell!

Yep, looking good so far. All the excitment over the new job(congratulations by the way) I'm surprised you slept at all.

I just watched Policy Academy today as a matter of fact... go for it High Tower style.

[justreading]

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

Yep, looking good so far. All the excitment over the new job(congratulations by the way) I'm surprised you slept at all.

I just watched Policy Academy today as a matter of fact... go for it High Tower style.

Hey man I think you misunderstood. I am going in recruiting and will be working towards getting into accademy... BTW I love police accademy movies too, I always watch them when they are on tv.

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by justreading

Hey man I think you misunderstood. I am going in recruiting and will be working towards getting into accademy... BTW I love police accademy movies too, I always watch them when they are on tv.

So you have to go through a recruitment program before entrance into the academy(is that it). Eitherway.... go for it High Tower style.

[justreading]

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

So you have to go through a recruitment program before entrance into the academy(is that it). Eitherway.... go for it High Tower style.

Haha yes and no, sorry I type unclearely. I am getting a job working in financial recruiting to pay the bills until I can get into an academy which could take a year. I was just excited because I have new pursuits to focus on and have a final goal to achieve.

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by justreading

Haha yes and no, sorry I type unclearely. I am getting a job working in financial recruiting to pay the bills until I can get into an academy which could take a year. I was just excited because I have new pursuits to focus on and have a final goal to achieve.

Congrats on the achievments so far my friend. The fact that you have a goal makes life all the more sweeter.

[justreading]

Night 2

My scheduel right now is a bit to laxed to give much negative feedback so I will focus on the positive. Any negatives (feeling tired during the day ect) are probably due to not having enough to do to keep me busy but that should be changing very soon once work starts (looooong days).

Slept great last night! Got to bed arounbd 12:30 got up around 9:30. I am still experiencing an odd energy when I wake up in the middle of the night, it is nothing I can't overcome and fall back asleep with but still is odd. I haven't had any good reason to force myself to wake up early but I do think that with a little RPM I would have been able to get up much earlier and felt great. Right now I am out of RPM and waiting to get more. RPM had taken my sleeping problems to a new high! I literally didn't sleep until 5am many nights when I took rpm.

Hopefully over the next week my scheduel will start clicking and I can give this a real test in getting to bed earlier and getting up at a normal time but for right now I am just happy with the long night sleep I've gotten and look forward to exploring the interesting energy I have been getting apon waking up.

[justreading]

Night 2

My scheduel right now is a bit to laxed to give much negative feedback so I will focus on the positive. Any negatives (feeling tired during the day ect) are probably due to not having enough to do to keep me busy but that should be changing very soon once work starts (looooong days).

Slept great last night! Got to bed arounbd 12:30 got up around 9:30. I am still experiencing an odd energy when I wake up in the middle of the night, it is nothing I can't overcome and fall back asleep with but still is odd. I haven't had any good reason to force myself to wake up early but I do think that with a little RPM I would have been able to get up much earlier and felt great. Right now I am out of RPM and waiting to get more. RPM had taken my sleeping problems to a new high! I literally didn't sleep until 5am many nights when I took rpm.

Hopefully over the next week my scheduel will start clicking and I can give this a real test in getting to bed earlier and getting up at a normal time but for right now I am just happy with the long night sleep I've gotten and look forward to exploring the interesting energy I have been getting apon waking up.

[metroba]

good for you man. I too had a good nights sleep. I have the same problem with waking up in the middle of the night with a weird energy but for me its more like I need to go get some milk from the store and then I realize hey its 6am you still got a few hours for work get your ass in bed and rest!!
If rpm was keeping you up maybe its not such a good idea to use it again. Maybe use poseidon throughout the day for clean energy. Not knockn on RPM. I love the stuff but its not worth taking if you cant even sleep. best of luck to you

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by justreading

Hopefully over the next week my scheduel will start clicking and I can give this a real test in getting to bed earlier and getting up at a normal time but for right now I am just happy with the long night sleep I've gotten and look forward to exploring the interesting energy I have been getting apon waking up.

Refreshing sleep perhaps

Good updates man.

[justreading]

My internet has been up and down so I triple posted my feedback...oops

[workin2005]

Great feedback my friend! Keep us posted!

Workin

[Cordell]

Just I thought. Try eating turkey for your last meal before bed. I have a hell of a time getting to sleep before my set time of 4:00am (I work nights), but like this weekend (in Canada anyways) the old thanx giving turkey had my snoring by 10:00pm. Does it to me every year lol.

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by Cordell

Just I thought. Try eating turkey for your last meal before bed. I have a hell of a time getting to sleep before my set time of 4:00am (I work nights), but like this weekend (in Canada anyways) the old thanx giving turkey had my snoring by 10:00pm. Does it to me every year lol.

It's thanksgiving in Canada?

Anyway, yeah turkey contains tryptophan which helps make some individuals sleepy thru melatonin conversion. Abyss also has this as well.

[justreading]

Night 3

Some nice observations tonight!

I am learniong how I respond quickly. I have learned that when it starts making me sleepy I better not fight it and stay up or I will end up getting energy.

Last night I figured my size and phenibut tolerance would make it ok for me to take 5. SO a 9:15 I took 5. By 10 I was so damn tired I had to fight to get in my last meal before passing out BUT before I could my GF triend to do something nice for me by lighting a ton of candles ect... So anyway after that I still had to go have my last meal, before I know it its 12am and I have to get to bed. At this point I am trying to convinve myself I am still sleepy but I just can't. I sat in bed and was wide awake. At this point I was soooo pissed because after I took 5 I was the sleepiest I had ever been but I made the mistake of letting that pass. I was determined to get that feeling back so I took 3 more and it hit FAST. Like 5-10 minutes after the 3 I was yawning and getting that crazy sleepy feeling back. Then approximetly 15 minutes after being wide awake I was out cold.

For me I have learned that when it starts to hit dont fight it or I will get an energy rebound. It is a calm relaxed energy but it kills all sleep. When it does hit though it hits fast and strong and I need to not fight it and just go lay down.

5 may be my magic dose after how it made me felt. Unfortunetly though because of my mess up I had to take a total of 8 last night. I may or may not take a couple night off because of taking to much last night.

[metroba]

Originally Posted by justreading

Night 3

Some nice observations tonight!

I am learniong how I respond quickly. I have learned that when it starts making me sleepy I better not fight it and stay up or I will end up getting energy.

Last night I figured my size and phenibut tolerance would make it ok for me to take 5. SO a 9:15 I took 5. By 10 I was so damn tired I had to fight to get in my last meal before passing out BUT before I could my GF triend to do something nice for me by lighting a ton of candles ect... So anyway after that I still had to go have my last meal, before I know it its 12am and I have to get to bed. At this point I am trying to convinve myself I am still sleepy but I just can't. I sat in bed and was wide awake. At this point I was soooo pissed because after I took 5 I was the sleepiest I had ever been but I made the mistake of letting that pass. I was determined to get that feeling back so I took 3 more and it hit FAST. Like 5-10 minutes after the 3 I was yawning and getting that crazy sleepy feeling back. Then approximetly 15 minutes after being wide awake I was out cold.

For me I have learned that when it starts to hit dont fight it or I will get an energy rebound. It is a calm relaxed energy but it kills all sleep. When it does hit though it hits fast and strong and I need to not fight it and just go lay down.

5 may be my magic dose after how it made me felt. Unfortunetly though because of my mess up I had to take a total of 8 last night. I may or may not take a couple night off because of taking to much last night.

woahhh 8 caps! Thats hardcore man. At least you got to sleep.

[workin2005]

Originally Posted by justreading

Night 3

Some nice observations tonight!

I am learniong how I respond quickly. I have learned that when it starts making me sleepy I better not fight it and stay up or I will end up getting energy.

Last night I figured my size and phenibut tolerance would make it ok for me to take 5. SO a 9:15 I took 5. By 10 I was so damn tired I had to fight to get in my last meal before passing out BUT before I could my GF triend to do something nice for me by lighting a ton of candles ect... So anyway after that I still had to go have my last meal, before I know it its 12am and I have to get to bed. At this point I am trying to convinve myself I am still sleepy but I just can't. I sat in bed and was wide awake. At this point I was soooo pissed because after I took 5 I was the sleepiest I had ever been but I made the mistake of letting that pass. I was determined to get that feeling back so I took 3 more and it hit FAST. Like 5-10 minutes after the 3 I was yawning and getting that crazy sleepy feeling back. Then approximetly 15 minutes after being wide awake I was out cold.

For me I have learned that when it starts to hit dont fight it or I will get an energy rebound. It is a calm relaxed energy but it kills all sleep. When it does hit though it hits fast and strong and I need to not fight it and just go lay down.

5 may be my magic dose after how it made me felt. Unfortunetly though because of my mess up I had to take a total of 8 last night. I may or may not take a couple night off because of taking to much last night.

Great feedback justreading. Very interesting observation. Before ABYSS, Ambien use to do that to me. If I fought going to sleep, before long I was wide awake with a euphoric energy buzz. (which is actually enjoyable) If I went to bed as soon as it hit me though, I was out like a light.

Sounds like 5 is your magic number. I'd take a night or 2 off before taking ABYSS again. Great log!

Workin

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by justreading

Night 3

Some nice observations tonight!

I am learniong how I respond quickly. I have learned that when it starts making me sleepy I better not fight it and stay up or I will end up getting energy.

Last night I figured my size and phenibut tolerance would make it ok for me to take 5. SO a 9:15 I took 5. By 10 I was so damn tired I had to fight to get in my last meal before passing out BUT before I could my GF triend to do something nice for me by lighting a ton of candles ect... So anyway after that I still had to go have my last meal, before I know it its 12am and I have to get to bed. At this point I am trying to convinve myself I am still sleepy but I just can't. I sat in bed and was wide awake. At this point I was soooo pissed because after I took 5 I was the sleepiest I had ever been but I made the mistake of letting that pass. I was determined to get that feeling back so I took 3 more and it hit FAST. Like 5-10 minutes after the 3 I was yawning and getting that crazy sleepy feeling back. Then approximetly 15 minutes after being wide awake I was out cold.

For me I have learned that when it starts to hit dont fight it or I will get an energy rebound. It is a calm relaxed energy but it kills all sleep. When it does hit though it hits fast and strong and I need to not fight it and just go lay down.

5 may be my magic dose after how it made me felt. Unfortunetly though because of my mess up I had to take a total of 8 last night. I may or may not take a couple night off because of taking to much last night.

Yep, logs looking good man. Finding your sweet spot is always nice with new products, looking forward to hearing how the dosage goes with your new found insight.