Drive during PCT - Log

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    Day 12 - GOOD NEWS

    I've needed some good news to pick me up. Here it is...
    True Weight (After workout and steam room) - 197
    Bodyfat - 17%

    That's good news in my opinion. I realize the hand held bodyfat thingy isn't the most accurate, but when I started, it read 18ish%. So its down a full % which tells me I'm heading in the right direction.

    I worked out Chest and Tri's today. Weight and reps were up enough to feel good about it.

    Strength: My strength was surprisingly up. I was able to tack an extra 10lbs on bench press and squeeze out another 2 reps on the 4th set. I'm happy.

    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Weight steady with a decrease in bf%

    Pumps/Vascularity: chest and triceps always seem to get one hell of a pump.
    Endurance: Good today.
    Aggression: Nothing noticeably different
    Focus: Good.
    Libido: Same. I'd do it If I had someone to do it with. But I don't want the trouble. heh
    Muscle Density/Hardening: Good. Triceps felt hard as a rock
    Overall Energy: Better than the last few days for sure
    Personal Commentary: Overall I feel much better than the last few days. I still am somewhat depressed which has more to do with my personality and less to do with the cycle and post cycle (in my opinion) I've struggled off and on with depression since I was 14.

    In other news, I've got my next cycle picked out. Got PPlex by CEL on its way. Gonna stack it with RPM and e-form. Probably gonna throw in the rest of my Epi as well, but thats debatable. Got Nolva lined up for post cycle therapy.
    Sounds like it is def. working!!
    Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
    Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals


  2. Keep in mind that I changed my diet to 6 meals, 2400 cals a day. This alone could cause a change in body comp. However, it seems that Drive is adding a little "edge" to the equation. Especially since I haven't lost any muscle. (I probably added a lb or two of LBM.) I can't say for sure. I'm going to continue to log this all the way through the end of the bottle which should be about 27 days.
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  3. Day 13

    Rest Day. I was going to do cardio but brought the wrong shorts with me to work. No worries.

  4. Day 14

    Drive on empty stomach at 9am about 1 1/2 hours after breakfast. I eat right when I wake up and find it difficult to take Drive then wait an hour.

    Today was my day off from work so I went to the gym around 12:30

    Back and Biceps
    Close Grip Pull Ups x 3
    Dumbbell Rows x 3
    Wide Grip Pully Rows x 3
    Wide Grip Pull Downs x 3
    BarBell Curls x 4
    Cybex Curls x 3
    Incline DumbBell Curls x 3

    Pumps/Vascularity: Good bicep and back pump. Back actually hurts a bit from it.
    Endurance: Great from beginning of workout to the end
    Aggression: Ready for my workout
    Focus: Good.
    Libido: Up a bit. I'm not super horney yet.
    Muscle Density/Hardening: Muscles feel good
    Overall Energy: Good today
    Personal Commentary: I feel good today. I had a solid workout. I increased some weight and reps. Moving forward instead of backward during post cycle therapy is a big bonus. I'm going to continue to run this product and log it as I go.

    Preliminary Judgement:
    Like I mentioned before, "Drive" seems to give me a bit of an edge. Since I haven't run a PH cycle before, I don't know what post cycle therapy feels like without it. However, from what I've heard, PCT causes muscle loss, lethargy, depression, etc. So far I have experienced the depression. However, I am predisposed to it and have been treated for it since I was 17. Whether or not PCT exacerbated my symptoms is debatable, though I would lean toward it doing just that.

    Given that I haven't so much as lost 1 lb of LBM, I would have to attribute that to, at least in part, the Drive. I look forward to trying out other AN products such as RPM.

  5. maybe rms could answer this. does drive's ai capabilities eliminate a need to run an ai post cycle or should one be included as a precaution?
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  6. I ordered a bottle of RPM and Lipotrophin A.M. for my next PP cycle.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by sfearl1 View Post
    maybe rms could answer this. does drive's ai capabilities eliminate a need to run an ai post cycle or should one be included as a precaution?
    I would always err on the side of caution- so go ahead and pick one up.....
    Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
    Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals

  8. You have the foundation for a solid stack for PP. LIPO AM / PM are great products, but I would wait until PCT to use them. RPM can be used through-out to counter possible lethargy issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    I ordered a bottle of RPM and Lipotrophin A.M. for my next PP cycle.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by matthew76 View Post
    You have the foundation for a solid stack for PP. LIPO AM / PM are great products, but I would wait until post cycle therapy to use them. RPM can be used through-out to counter possible lethargy issues.
    OK thanks for the info

  10. Day 15
    Increased dose to 3 pills at 9am, 1 1/2 hours after breakfast and again at 7 pm on an empty stomach.

    Workout at 8pm.
    Shoulders
    Arnold Presses x 4
    Incline Lateral Raises
    Front Raises
    BB Shrugs
    upright rows
    forearms

    Pumps/Vascularity: Still feeling back pumps from yesterday. Shoulders felt good.
    Endurance: Great
    Aggression: same
    Focus: Good focus today
    Libido: coming back
    Muscle Density/Hardening: same
    Overall Energy: Good today
    Personal Commentary: Great workout. Increased weight on Arnold Presses and upright rows.

  11. Day 16
    Rest day. 3 Drive at 7 am. 3 Drive at 7pm.

    Day 17

    Drive at 8am. Again at 3pm.

    Workout at 4pm. Legs
    Squats x 3
    Dead Lifts x 3
    Hack Squats x 3
    Lying Leg Curls x 3
    Standing Calf Raises x 3
    Seated Calf Raises x 3

    Weight 192 BF 17.2%

    Not too happy about the weight. However, I may have been a bit dehydrated. My pants still don't fit any looser. I may be too high on calories still. I don't want to decrease them too much because I don't want to lose any muscle. I think I'm going to run my next PH cycle at this caloric level to cut a bit.

    Strength - Up on Squats, Deads and Hacks. Down on Leg Curls.
    Pumps/Vascularity: Veins are much more noticeable in arms.
    Endurance: Great from beginning of workout to the end
    Aggression: Nothing to write home about
    Focus: Good.
    Libido: Wet Dream yesterday during nap.
    Muscle Density/Hardening: no change
    Overall Energy: pretty good today

    I did PM Lanbane and ask for another bottle of Drive for my freebie. I'm going to use it so I can run the rest of my PCT with 6 per day. I've got until the 26th when my PCT is finished. I'll run the Drive until my next PH cycle, PPlex/Eform/RPM

  12. Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    Libido: Wet Dream yesterday during nap.
    i guess libido is up lol

  13. Quote Originally Posted by sfearl1 View Post
    i guess libido is up lol

    i definately wasn't expecting that one. i had one at the very beginning of my post cycle therapy when I started to take the Torem. I guess I need to play tug-o-war with the one eyed cyclopse more often.




    is that you're back in your avatar sfear? goddam that is some sick shyt yo

  14. Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    i definately wasn't expecting that one. i had one at the very beginning of my post cycle therapy when I started to take the Torem. I guess I need to play tug-o-war with the one eyed cyclopse more often.




    is that you're back in your avatar sfear? goddam that is some sick shyt yo
    i know thats a sick back isn't it!! it will be mine some day!!! lol its "The Blade's" back (Dexter Jackson).

  15. Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    No workouts. I was feeling pretty crappy mentally and forgot to take my PM Drive both days. Saturday I stayed in bed nearly all day. Sunday I got up and out of the house a bit, but I still felt like a turd. I'm going back to work on Monday and will work out afterward. Legs day, woot.
    Regarding this quote and the depression issues that you mentioned... post cycle therapy is NOT the time to try to cut calories, especially after a bulking cycle like you just ran. Otherwise, I can tell you're learning a lot as compared to when you first started

  16. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Regarding this quote and the depression issues that you mentioned... post cycle therapy is NOT the time to try to cut calories, especially after a bulking cycle like you just ran. Otherwise, I can tell you're learning a lot as compared to when you first started

    I agree. I felt like I was putting on too much fat. It wasn't the best idea, thats for sure. Next time I will nail it. Can't wait for my PP cycle. Its amazing how much I've learned in the three months I've been on this site. The more I know, the more I know I don't know!

    I was just like all the other nublets that pop on here and have NO clue about what they are taking and what PCT is. Thankfully I was able to secure the proper PCT chems and have been doing pretty good. And thankfully, Matthew76 took me under his wing and showed me the ropes. Thanks Matt!

  17. Day 18

    I'm in the habit now of eating as soon as I wake up at 7-7:30 and taking Drive at 9ish. I think that gives my stomach enough time to clear out before I take it.

    My 2nd dose was taken at 7pm on an empty stomach.

    I did cardio today. 25 minutes on the stairmaster Stairclimber7000 thing. It is actual stairs that collapse and reform to simulate walking up flights of stairs. I walked up "40" flights. Then I got on the recumbant for another 5 minutes.

    After my 2nd dose of Drive, I felt a "flush." It was a bizarre feeling and occured about 10-15 minutes after my dose. I had good energy throughout the day and throughout my cardio routine.

    A woman (married) commented that I was looking leaner and she could tell I had been "working out." (last saw her a week or two ago.)

  18. the escalator to nowhere

  19. Hey man - that's what this board is all about! Now you can help others. It's like Anabolic Jedi learning... LoL!

    Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    I agree. I felt like I was putting on too much fat. It wasn't the best idea, thats for sure. Next time I will nail it. Can't wait for my PP cycle. Its amazing how much I've learned in the three months I've been on this site. The more I know, the more I know I don't know!

    I was just like all the other nublets that pop on here and have NO clue about what they are taking and what post cycle therapy is. Thankfully I was able to secure the proper PCT chems and have been doing pretty good. And thankfully, Matthew76 took me under his wing and showed me the ropes. Thanks Matt!

  20. may the PH force be with you

  21. I'm on my last week of post cycle therapy! I'm taking 30mg of Torem at night before bed, 2 xlean, and I'm taking 3 "Restore" by ALRI with meals and 3 grams of Bulk Cissus. 6 total Drive per day. 3 at 9 am and 3 around 7pm.

    I feel pretty amped right now at 12:30. I've got chest / triceps tonight. Full report when I'm finished.

  22. always feels good to hit that last week

  23. Tuesday Oct 16 - Day 19

    Felt real good today. Worked out Chest / Triceps

    I mixed the w/o up a bit. I did decline first then incline then bb press.

    Strength is steadily moving upward.
    I was agressive as hell in the gym and I'm definately feeling an increase in my libido. I'd like to falk everything that moves.

    I tried to get a hold of Lanbane to request a 2nd bottle of Drive as my freebie for doing the logs, but I haven't heard anything back. In fact, I wrote him twice. I guess he's busy(?) I hope he lets me know if he needs more info or whatever, because I'm running out of Drive and need another bottle to keep up the 6 tabs per day.

  24. Days 20-21

    I took these days off. Day 20 I was feeling a bit lethargic after work and decided not to workout.

    Day 21, Thursday I took off also.

    Friday I'll do back, Saturday Shoulders.

    I think that I should take an entire week off in order to rest. I've been doing the 10 week mass building workout for 12 weeks and I think I need a week for my body to recover. 7 weeks on the H-Drol/Epi cycle and 4 weeks of PCT. What do you all think?

  25. sounds like a good idea, a week off

  26. You need a week off Edward. Let your body heal up - then go back with a fresh new mind-set.

  27. yea, i think a week off every 3 months or so is a good idea. I'll do light cardio 3x during the week.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    yea, i think a week off every 3 months or so is a good idea. I'll do light cardio 3x during the week.
    taking a week off might suck during the week out of the gym but you will be so happy you did once you get back in there.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by sfearl1 View Post
    taking a week off might suck during the week out of the gym but you will be so happy you did once you get back in there.
    I couldn't agree more with that. I can't stand being out of the gym, but when I do take a week off it feels incredible to get back there fresh that next week.

  30. Thanks Lanbane for getting me the free bottle of Drive
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