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    Theres no ephedra in the XLean that I can see on the ingredient list.



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    ma huang? maybe one of the other goofy names for it?
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    no. Just Androstenetriol, 7-beta-hydroxy-dhea and maltodextrin.

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    I do agree with the other statements, the amount of anything that might be in just the torem as "dirty beaker" syndrom shouldnt be enough to throw a positive, but I don't see anything else either that could do it.
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    I would guess Xlean too. Gl to you edwards.

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    Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    Day 4

    I woke up feeling leaner. I imagine that I was holding less water than normal. Sleep was restful, approximately 7 hours.

    This morning, I ate around 7 and went back to sleep for another hour! I took Drive when I woke up at 8:50. I maintained a positive energy level all day.

    Approximately 2300 calories over 6 meals today.

    2nd dose of Drive taken at 7 pm.

    Work out at 8:15. Good energy level though workout.

    My shoulder injury is completely healed. I was able to add some weight back onto the bar today and felt good about it.

    Strength: Back to pre-injury levels. Increased weight on Incline bench.

    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Felt leaner in the morning.
    Pumps/Vascularity: Triceps were about to explode out of my arms. Chest nice and pumped up.
    Endurance: Good throughout workout. No fatigue.
    Aggression: I'm a pretty mellow dude. No noticeable agression increase yet.
    Focus: Good. I'll have to pay attn to my focus level more.
    Libido: Coming back.
    Muscle Density/Hardening: Not much change
    Overall Energy: Good. I was falling asleep after lunch the last week on cycle. Now I'm awake and ready to work all day.
    Personal Commentary: So far so good. As Matt pointed out, because I'm using this during post cycle therapy, I might not be able to see the same benefits as someone using it stand alone. However, I think that If I can a) maintain or add-to gains, b) lean out a bit, then I think this product will be worth it for someone in post cycle therapy mode.

    I'll make sure to hit the steam room and weigh myself afterwards tomorrow after my workout.

    On another note, I ran into some trouble with my SERM and may have to stop it altogether. I'm going to have to switch to Dermacrine Sustain. I realize that this might effect the results of the log. I apologize in advance. However, it seems to be unavoidable as the Toremifene appears to be tainted with another chemical that is causing me to test positive for meth-amphetimines. I can only hope that I don't end up with titties.

    Some of the compounds in Drive will actually compete with estrogen- so this willl probably help prevent any type of gyno

    PS- You should keep all your gains, or even gain lean muscle, when using Drive for pct. It also has several components that mimic LH and boost cAMP levels significantly- and lowered LH and lagging cAMP levels post-cycle tend to be two major reasons that individuals coming off a cycle tend to lose at least some of their gains, and feel like **** in the process
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    Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    Some of the compounds in Drive will actually compete with estrogen- so this willl probably help prevent any type of gyno
    thats always good!

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    Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    thats always good!
    Absolutely!!
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    Just curious - do you have any blood work to back this?

    When I do my RPM / DRIVE stack in November I am going to get before and after panels to see if T levels are elevated at all.

    Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    Some of the compounds in Drive will actually compete with estrogen- so this willl probably help prevent any type of gyno

    PS- You should keep all your gains, or even gain lean muscle, when using Drive for post cycle therapy. It also has several components that mimic LH and boost cAMP levels significantly- and lowered LH and lagging cAMP levels post-cycle tend to be two major reasons that individuals coming off a cycle tend to lose at least some of their gains, and feel like **** in the process

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    Originally Posted by matthew76 View Post
    Just curious - do you have any blood work to back this?

    When I do my RPM / DRIVE stack in November I am going to get before and after panels to see if T levels are elevated at all.
    Good question- I am in the process of trying to round up testers to try and do this on my end- I know what some of the studies show as far as the components of Drive go- but w/o the blood work to back it up- it is just supposition at this point. My theory is that Drive will increase LH, raise free test, and lower SHBG levels- and I have contacted several labs in the Charlotte area to try and get pricing on pre- and post- RPM/Drive cycle bloodwork.

    I am very interested in seeing your blood work pre and post- should be some interesting results!!
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    Well, I have pre-Drive lab work that I got done last Monday. I could always get another panel done. Let me make sure it has test levels on it. I'll pick it up from the Lab on Thursday at the latest.

    Also, It seems that I found the culprit for my false meth positives, ABB's "SpeedStack." Its got all sorts of speedy goodies in it. So I will continue the Torem.

    I feel pretty good so far coming off cycle. A full report later tonight. I'm doing back/biceps.

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    Day 5

    Interesting update today.

    First Drive taken at 9:50am. Walnuts and cranberries eaten at 10.

    2nd Drive taken at 6pm on empty stomach. Next meal, a protein shake eaten at 7.

    Within 15 minutes of taking the Drive, I noticed something... different. I can't explain it. Focus maybe. Then, the agression set in. I couldn't wait to hit the weights.

    I started lifting at 8:30. Back/Biceps.

    I maintained or increased weight/reps on almost every exercise. I was very aggressive and focused.

    I took no unusual stims today. No Xenergy, no Speed Stack. Just 2 Diet Pepsis.

    Workout looked like this.
    3 Sets of:
    Pull ups
    One Arm Rows
    Wide Grip Seated Pully Rows
    Pulldowns
    Barbell Curls
    EZ Bar Preacher Curlz
    Incline Curlz

    I also promised I would weigh myself after my workout and a 10 minute visit to the SteamRoom.

    Weight 197 - down from 199
    Bodyfat % - 17% - down from 18


    I believe the reduction in BF is a direct result of my strict diet, keeping it less than 2400 calories a day since last Monday. (8 days of the new diet.) When I was on cycle I got a little loose with my eating.

    Strength: Up
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Reduction in Bodyfat % and weight.
    Pumps/Vascularity: Shoulder vasculariy noticeable
    Endurance: Great during workout well into 9:30 pm.
    Aggression: Much higher than yesterday
    Focus: I definately was more focused today.
    Libido: Same
    Muscle Density/Hardening: Triceps seemed harder today.
    Overall Energy: Great today. From when I woke up at 7 till now at 11.
    Personal Commentary: I feel great. Who knows if its the Drive. But I'm not experiencing the negatives of going off cycle so far.

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    Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    Day 5

    Interesting update today.

    First Drive taken at 9:50am. Walnuts and cranberries eaten at 10.

    2nd Drive taken at 6pm on empty stomach. Next meal, a protein shake eaten at 7.

    Within 15 minutes of taking the Drive, I noticed something... different. I can't explain it. Focus maybe. Then, the agression set in. I couldn't wait to hit the weights.

    I started lifting at 8:30. Back/Biceps.

    I maintained or increased weight/reps on almost every exercise. I was very aggressive and focused.

    I took no unusual stims today. No Xenergy, no Speed Stack. Just 2 Diet Pepsis.

    Workout looked like this.
    3 Sets of:
    Pull ups
    One Arm Rows
    Wide Grip Seated Pully Rows
    Pulldowns
    Barbell Curls
    EZ Bar Preacher Curlz
    Incline Curlz

    I also promised I would weigh myself after my workout and a 10 minute visit to the SteamRoom.

    Weight 197 - down from 199
    Bodyfat % - 17% - down from 18


    I believe the reduction in BF is a direct result of my strict diet, keeping it less than 2400 calories a day since last Monday. (8 days of the new diet.) When I was on cycle I got a little loose with my eating.

    Strength: Up
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Reduction in Bodyfat % and weight.
    Pumps/Vascularity: Shoulder vasculariy noticeable
    Endurance: Great during workout well into 9:30 pm.
    Aggression: Much higher than yesterday
    Focus: I definately was more focused today.
    Libido: Same
    Muscle Density/Hardening: Triceps seemed harder today.
    Overall Energy: Great today. From when I woke up at 7 till now at 11.
    Personal Commentary: I feel great. Who knows if its the Drive. But I'm not experiencing the negatives of going off cycle so far.
    Thats exactly how I would describe my Drive experience.

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    Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    Day 5

    Interesting update today.

    First Drive taken at 9:50am. Walnuts and cranberries eaten at 10.

    2nd Drive taken at 6pm on empty stomach. Next meal, a protein shake eaten at 7.

    Within 15 minutes of taking the Drive, I noticed something... different. I can't explain it. Focus maybe. Then, the agression set in. I couldn't wait to hit the weights.

    I started lifting at 8:30. Back/Biceps.

    I maintained or increased weight/reps on almost every exercise. I was very aggressive and focused.

    I took no unusual stims today. No Xenergy, no Speed Stack. Just 2 Diet Pepsis.

    Workout looked like this.
    3 Sets of:
    Pull ups
    One Arm Rows
    Wide Grip Seated Pully Rows
    Pulldowns
    Barbell Curls
    EZ Bar Preacher Curlz
    Incline Curlz

    I also promised I would weigh myself after my workout and a 10 minute visit to the SteamRoom.

    Weight 197 - down from 199
    Bodyfat % - 17% - down from 18


    I believe the reduction in BF is a direct result of my strict diet, keeping it less than 2400 calories a day since last Monday. (8 days of the new diet.) When I was on cycle I got a little loose with my eating.

    Strength: Up
    Bodyweight/Body Comp: Reduction in Bodyfat % and weight.
    Pumps/Vascularity: Shoulder vasculariy noticeable
    Endurance: Great during workout well into 9:30 pm.
    Aggression: Much higher than yesterday
    Focus: I definately was more focused today.
    Libido: Same
    Muscle Density/Hardening: Triceps seemed harder today.
    Overall Energy: Great today. From when I woke up at 7 till now at 11.
    Personal Commentary: I feel great. Who knows if its the Drive. But I'm not experiencing the negatives of going off cycle so far.
    It keeps getting better with time.....
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    Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals

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    I will be using Drive in my PCT, so this is s great log for me to check out before! Thanks Edwards! Looking forward to you getting some great results, because that means I will get some too! But then again, what doesn't give you great results that comes from AN!

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    Day 6

    1st Drive taken at 9:00 AM
    2nd Drive taken at 7:00 PM

    I only got 6 hours sleep last night and it was apparent around 4:00pm. I was extremely tired, nodding off in my chair at work, wishing I could crawl into bed and catch a few Zzzzs.

    I got a 2nd wind before my workout at 8:30. Today was 30 minutes of Cardio. I did a Stairclimber for 15 minutes and the recumbant bicycle for 10 more.

    When I got home, I pigged out on Vanilla Yogurt Cheerios, about 2 bowls worth! (~400-500 calories) I try to throw my body off once a week by adding some extra carbs. However, I am the first to admit that I overdid it!

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    Day 7

    1st Dose at 6:45 am.
    2nd Dose at 7:00 pm.

    Today was total and absolute REST. Ahhhhhhh.

    Tomorrow is shoulders. I am going to make them pay for getting off easy last week. Boooya

    -edwards

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    Here's a link to my thread at bodybuilding . com

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1#post84007683

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    Supplements put away... send me your information when you get a chance dude.

    How are the boys doing since starting PCT? Are you feeling lethargic at all?

    Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    Here's a link to my thread at bodybuilding . com

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1#post84007683

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