[TheNinja]

Age: 30
Stats: 6'1" @ 186.5 lbs
BodyFat: I estimated 14% bf (I really have no idea but from pictures posted on AM, people estimated 12-14%)
Body Type: Ecto (66%) / Meso (33%) - very thin growing up but have forced myself to gain muscle
Goals: Gain strength and size with minimal fat gain on a consistent basis
Goals Specific for this product cycle: Gain strength and lean size and not lose it after I go off the cycle. When I cycle off creatine I lose a lot of gains and I hope this product does not have the same drawback. Because of this I will likely log (though not as frequently) for 2-3 weeks after I am done taking IGF-2 to see if I have dramatic strength loss or not.
Medical issues: none
Past Supplements: Very little experience other than multivitamin, creatine, whey protein, fish oils (1 recent 7 week cycle on Leviathan, light RPM use has been discontinued for the past 2 weeks to prep for the log).
Current: Multi, Whey, omega3, BCAA, ZMA (on and off)
Diet: In check for the most part. Try to eat clean all the time but I'm not super crazy about it. Realistically average about 2200 calories a day, but I have an office job
Workout: Typically a 3 or 4 day split - chest/tris, back/bis, legs/shoulders, 4thday misc (more leg, abs, etc.)
Cardio: Honestly, have been slacking for the past couple months but am getting back into the "couch to 5k plan". I might toss in some HIIT but I have to get my knees in shape first otherwise I get horrible knee tendon pain and shin splits.
Other: I'm just a regular guy but with good intensity and a good diet. I don't like to mix too many things b/c I like to see how certain supps affect me by themselves so I know what to buy again. If I stack 6 things, how do I know which one actually is working? I hope to be like a test case of how a single supplement or two (plus the basics of protein, oils, multi) affects a normal person who lifts with very good intensity. I think this will be a good "real world" test for those people who are new to supps or for those who aren't looking to spend $300 a month to stack many items.
Dosage split into 3 times a day: 8 pills - will upgrade to 9 pills if needed or agreed upon by the AN crew

"Normal" Diet:
Waking Up: 3 IGF-2
Meal 1: 8oz skim milk, 1 scoop ON Whey, multi
Meal 2: 1 whole wheat bagel with natural peanut butter
Meal 3: Varies, but typically around 600 calories in a 40/40/20 split or as close as possible consisting of lean protein, whole grain, veggies.
Pre Workout: 3 IGF-2 plus 6g BCAA's in crystal light
Workout: Take 6g BCAA during workout
Post Workout Meal 4: 20g dextrose, 20g maltodextrin, 30g ON whey, 1 banana
Meal 5: Varies, but again typically around 600 calories in a 40/40/20 split or as close as possible consisting of lean protein, whole grain, veggies.
1 hour before bed: 2 IGF-2
Before sleeping: 8oz skin milk, 1 scoop ON Whey, 2g fish oils

Initial measurements - as close as I could get with a string and a tape measure :
Neck - 15.125
Shoulders - 50.75
Chest (inside shoulders) - 42.5
Bicep R/L - 16.75/16.5
Waist/Abs Flabby/Flexed (not "sucked in" though) - 35.25/34
Hip/Glutes - 39.5
Thigh R/L - 23.5/23.75
Calf R/L - 15.5/15.625

Pictures on Day 1 - Yes I flexed - I figure as long as I do the same pose for my after pics, it is fair

[xjsynx]

Sub

[Lanbane]

Good intro post bro. Looking forwarded to your log. Feel free to contact me at any time.

[TheNinja]

Day 2
Workout - Chest/Tris:
Bench Press:
12 @ 185
7 @ 225
5 @ 225
5 @ 225
8 @ 210
8 @ 205
10 @ 185
Incline Flys - Dumbell:
12 @ 45
12 @ 45
10 @ 45
Skull Crushers / Narrow Grip Press (superset):
9/9 @ 30
9/10 @ 30
8/6 @ 30
OverHead Tricep Dumbell:
12 @ 50
12 @ 50
Pushups (ok, I was dead tired :
13
10

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: Felt fine, nothing different as it was my first day. Can't say IGF-2 caused a real big stim effect or pump after 1 day.
Notes: None

[Lanbane]

[drewh10987]

Subscribed and congratulations on winning that gift certificate.

[TheNinja]

Day 3
Workout - Back/Bis:
Pull Down (don't know if the numbers are pounds but it is just the number I use on the stack):
12 @ 120
8 @ 140
8 @ 140
7 @ 140
7 @ 140
16 @ 100
Bent over Barbell Row:
10 @ 135
10 @ 135
10 @ 135
10 @ 135
9 @ 135
Bicep Barbell (with large 45lb bar)
10 @ 80
9 @ 80
8 @ 80
Seated Dumbell Hammer:
12 @ 30
11 @ 30
Reverse Forum Curl (behind the back with large 45lb bar):
14 @ 95
13 @ 95

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: I feel good. I'm getting good sleep at night. I'm quite sore from working out actually.
Notes: I seem to be very thirsty and am hungry all of the time. I don't know if it can be attributed to IGF-2 or not, but I'll be taking note of this.

[TheNinja]

Is there anything else I should specifically add or remove from the format I am using? I forsee more things in "overall feeling" and "notes" in later weeks though.

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by TheNinja

Is there anything else I should specifically add or remove from the format I am using? I forsee more things in "overall feeling" and "notes" in later weeks though.

You're fine bro..... just let us know what you think basically.... anything you attribute to the product, any increases or decreases that we should recognize as significant, etc. Good or bad.

:bb3:

[TheNinja]

Day 4
Workout - Legs/Shoulders:
Barbell Squat:
14 @ 135
12 @ 185
12@ 205
9 @ 225
8 @ 225
7 @ 220
drop set immediately into 10 @ 100
Military Press with Barbell:
14 @ 95
12 @ 125
8 @ 135
7 @ 135
8 @ 130
drop set immediately into 9 @ 35 dumbells
Single Calf Raise with Dumbell on shoulder:
12 @ 50
12 @ 50
12 @ 50
Seated Side Raise:
10 @ 18
10 @ 18
10 @ 18

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: I actually feel very alert. I'm getting good sleep at night.
Notes: Again I'm very hungry and thirsty - I also appear to be losing weight and I'm not sure why. I'm probably just leveling out from being on vacation for 2 weeks. I will keep an eye on this.


Also added measurements to initial post.

[TheNinja]

Day 6
Workout - Cardio (HIIT) + Abs:

Diet: Normal - although my weekends are always less structured than weekdays.
Overall Feeling: Again I feel like I am getting good sleep. But even moreso I feel very alert and energetic during the day. I don't know if this has anything to do with the IGF-2 or not, but I definitely notice something different.
Notes: Don't notice the hunger/thirst as much any more. Also the weight seems to be maintaining now.

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by TheNinja

Day 6
Workout - Cardio (HIIT) + Abs:

Diet: Normal - although my weekends are always less structured than weekdays.
Overall Feeling: Again I feel like I am getting good sleep. But even moreso I feel very alert and energetic during the day. I don't know if this has anything to do with the IGF-2 or not, but I definitely notice something different.
Notes: Don't notice the hunger/thirst as much any more. Also the weight seems to be maintaining now.

Good info. I think you'll notice the alertness as a huge plus in the long run. Increased REM sleep (increased GH release)from IGF-2 lends well to increased energy throughout the day,w ithout the use of stims.

[TheNinja]

Day 8
Workout - Chest (didn't have much time):
Bench Press:
12 @ 185 = 0
7 @ 225 = 0
6 @ 225 = +1 rep
6 @ 225 = +1 rep
9 @ 210 = +1 rep
8 @ 210 = +5lbs
9 @ 185 = -1 rep
Incline Flys - Dumbell:
12 @ 47 = +2lbs
12 @ 47 = +2lbs
10 @ 47 = +2lbs
Pushups (more energy b/c triceps were fresh :
16 = +3 reps
17 = +7 reps

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: I honestly can't say that I felt more powerful during the workout, but about 20 minutes into it I got a decent pump. By the end, I had a pretty good pump going throughout my chest, shoulders, and even arms. It isn't as full or thick as a pump on creatine for me, but it looks like a leaner more toned pump.
Notes: Slept like a rock last night. I seem to have more vivid dreams too....weird huh?

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by TheNinja

Day 8
Workout - Chest (didn't have much time):
Bench Press:
12 @ 185 = 0
7 @ 225 = 0
6 @ 225 = +1 rep
6 @ 225 = +1 rep
9 @ 210 = +1 rep
8 @ 210 = +5lbs
9 @ 185 = -1 rep
Incline Flys - Dumbell:
12 @ 47 = +2lbs
12 @ 47 = +2lbs
10 @ 47 = +2lbs
Pushups (more energy b/c triceps were fresh :
16 = +3 reps
17 = +7 reps

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: I honestly can't say that I felt more powerful during the workout, but about 20 minutes into it I got a decent pump. By the end, I had a pretty good pump going throughout my chest, shoulders, and even arms. It isn't as full or thick as a pump on creatine for me, but it looks like a leaner more toned pump.
Notes: Slept like a rock last night. I seem to have more vivid dreams too....weird huh?

Not weird at all. REM Sleep baby!!!!!!!!

[TheNinja]

Day 9
Workout - Back:
Pull Down (don't know if the numbers are pounds but it is just the number I use on the stack):
12 @ 120 = 0
10 @ 140 = +2 reps
8 @ 140 = 0
8 @ 140 = +1 rep
7 @ 140 = 0
18 @ 100 = +2 reps
Bent over Barbell Row:
10 @ 135 = 0
10 @ 135 = 0
11 @ 135 = +1 rep
12 @ 135 = +2 reps
10 @ 135 = +1 rep
Seated Reverse Fly:
12 @ 10
12 @ 10
12 @ 10


Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: I was tired before my workout. I'm not sure why, but my sleep has been interrupted lately at about 6am instead of my normal 7:15. It took me a bit to get focused into my workout, which might explain why my reps went up on my rows.
Notes: From other testers it appears that it will take 12-14 days before the effects really take note. I don't notice anything yet that makes me say "wow, this stuff is off the hook", but I did get a nice pump when working out and was able to get a few more reps. Also I went for a quick dip in the pool last night and felt pretty tight. Nothing major, but even 5-6 more reps each week makes a difference over a month's time.

[TheNinja]

Day 10
Workout - Legs:
Barbell Squat:
14 @ 135 = 0
12 @ 185 = 0
10 @ 205 = -2 yikes..but wait
10 @ 225 = +1
8 @ 225 = 0
8 @ 225 = +1 rep +5lbs
drop set immediately into 9 @ 100 = -1 rep
Good Mornings:
12 @ 30 on each side of bar
9 @ 30 on each side of bar
8 @ 30 on each side of bar
Single Calf Raise holding Dumbell:
12 @ 55 = +5lbs
11 @ 55 = -1 rep +5lbs
11 @ 55 = -1 rep +5lbs
Single Leg "reverse" calf raise (shin?) :
12
12
12

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: I could write something here to blow smoke up your bum but I won't. I feel pretty much the same as yesterday. I still sleep good, coming out of sleep is funny, espeically if I'm waken up quickly before I'm ready b/c I'm still have in my dream and take a few seconds to realize what is real and what isn't.
Notes: The main thing I notice is that I seem to maintain strenght throughout the workout. My weights aren't shooting through the roof but I have better endurance once i actually get going.

[Lanbane]

keep your smoke away from my bum

[TheNinja]

Day 11
Workout - Shoulders:
Military Press with Barbell:
14 @ 95 = 0
12 @ 125 = 0
8 @ 135 = 0
7 @ 135 = 0
9 @ 130 = +1 rep
8 @ 130 = +1 rep
drop set immediately into 10 @ 35 dumbells = +1 rep
Upright Row (had to keep light b/c of my left shoulder joint) :
14 @ 65
13 @ 65
Shrugs:
14 @ 60
14 @ 60
Seated Side Raise:
11 @ 18 = +1 rep
11 @ 18 = +1 rep



Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: Again, nothing really out of the norm. I'd say I do feel slighly lighter on my feet and thinner through my waist. I don't know if I lost any fat but I just feel overall a little leaner.
Notes: I was a little disappointed that my military press didn't go up in weight or numbers, maybe I'm wearing out or I need more food. Maybe I just need more focus or just try harder? I need a day or two off though - long weekend coming up!

[TheNinja]

Originally Posted by Lanbane

keep your smoke away from my bum

smoke is being kept away from all bums at the moment

[TheNinja]

Day 13
Workout - Arms:
Barbell Curl:
12 @ 80
11 @ 80
10 @ 80
Tricep pushdown:
14 @ 9
13 @ 10
12 @ 11
Seated Dumbell Hammer:
10 @ 35
9 @ 35
Overhead Tricep:
12 @ 60
12 @ 60
Single Arm Cable Curl:
16 @ 5
6 @ 7 / 10 @ 5
Tricep with cable:
16 @ 5
6 @ 7 / 10 @ 5


Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: I felt more energenic and pumped in the gum today. Perhaps I just had a better attitude or perhaps the IGF-2 is kicking in but I felt quite strong and got a pretty good pump in my arms.
Notes: Haha...crazy ass dream and I can remember a lot of it. It was seriously like a 1 hour dream. Libido is good but I wouldn't say crazy out of control or anything.

[Lanbane]

[TheNinja]

Originally Posted by Lanbane

thanks for the replies bro. I'm glad somebody is reading it at least - Actually I see the number of views changing so I know people are checking in. I'm exciting to see how my workouts go this coming week. And to see where my bench/squat numbers stand after reading other people's logs saying that day 14 seems to be the magic number. Time to take my last 3 IGF-2 pills for the day and see if I get any more whacky dreams. Stay classy AM.

[luke1984]

Originally Posted by TheNinja

thanks for the replies bro. I'm glad somebody is reading it at least - Actually I see the number of views changing so I know people are checking in. I'm exciting to see how my workouts go this coming week. And to see where my bench/squat numbers stand after reading other people's logs saying that day 14 seems to be the magic number. Time to take my last 3 IGF-2 pills for the day and see if I get any more whacky dreams. Stay classy AM.

I'm reading!

Good luck bro! I would like to see what this product can do!

[celc5]

I'll follow since we have very similar stats. Wt, measurements, body fat... all are pretty close and even the pics "resemble" a bit. Funny thing is, you're a bit stronger on chest and shoulders while I got ya on back and legs. Nice log.

[TheNinja]

Day 14
Workout - Cardio / Leg?:
2 hour hike in the hills nearby. Good leg and lung/heart workout.

Diet: A little messed up. I got enough calories but probably too much fat and and in 2 large meals instead of a bunch of smaller ones. Also a few mimosas at my brunch and a few beers when I grilled up my burgers....oh well, what is Labor Day for?
Overall Feeling: Anytime when I'm working out it seems like I don't notice any difference until about 15 minutes into my workout/hike. After that I get my energy and just keep going. Considering I haven't hiked for quite some time I was pretty impressed with myself today.
Notes: Starting to feel a nice lean pump, nothing crazy out of control though.

Unrelated Note: We might try the half dome hike at Yosemite National Park. It is 17 miles round trip up to elevation of something like 9000 ft, starting around 5000 ft. We'd have to do it in one day b/c we can't get camping passes. I might die

[TheNinja]

Originally Posted by celc5

I'll follow since we have very similar stats. Wt, measurements, body fat... all are pretty close and even the pics "resemble" a bit. Funny thing is, you're a bit stronger on chest and shoulders while I got ya on back and legs. Nice log.

cool, thanks man. ya, my back and legs need work. I used to workout mainly chest and arms and neglect the other parts. Also, I'm just genetically built with very thin legs too. I think over time I can change it though my legs just have about 5 years of catching up to do on my upper body Also you must be pretty friggin awesome if your stats are close to mine, I mean we practically have the perfectly perportioned body.........ok j/k guys.

also thanks to luke1984 for posting in.

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by TheNinja

cool, thanks man. ya, my back and legs need work. I used to workout mainly chest and arms and neglect the other parts. Also, I'm just genetically built with very thin legs too. I think over time I can change it though my legs just have about 5 years of catching up to do on my upper body Also you must be pretty friggin awesome if your stats are close to mine, I mean we practically have the perfectly perportioned body.........ok j/k guys.

also thanks to luke1984 for posting in.

lol

[edwards]

keep up the good work

[TheNinja]

Day 16
Workout - Chest/Tris:
Bench Press:
12 @ 185 = 0
8 @ 225 = +1 rep
8 @ 225 = +3 reps
7 @ 225 = +2 reps
10 @ 210 = +2 reps
8 @ 210 = +5lbs
12 @ 185 = +2 reps
Incline Flys - Dumbell:
14 @ 47 = +2 reps +2lbs
10 @ 50 = -2 reps +5lbs
8 @ 50 = -2 reps +5lbs
Skull Crushers / Narrow Grip Press (superset):
10/12 @ 30 = +1/+3 reps
10/10 @ 30 = +1/0 reps
9/8 @ 30 = +1/+2 reps
OverHead (single) Tricep Dumbell:
8 @ 20
10 @ 20
Pushups:
14 = +1
11 = +1

Diet: Normal
Overall Feeling: Here we go! The numbers aren't off the chart yet but the feeling was quite good and when you think about me adding 3 reps to my strongest set - means I'll be doing 17 reps @ 225 by the end of my 8 weeks . Going into it I felt very strong. You know how sometimes you lift and your joints and muscles just struggle and don't feel quite right? Well this time when I was lifting my muscles felt very good, very strong and in control. No "looseness" in my shoulders or joints, I could tell it was really working the muscles.
Notes: The pump is getting much better. Even walking around during the day now I feel a little tighter and a little stronger. The attitude and energy is good as well. Dreams are still awesome. Last night I was able to wander through a construction zone and then get chased by police as I ran up hills and was able to easily evade their attempts to get me - I laughed at them from up on my pearch. Quite a fun experience. I wonder what I'll get the chance to do tonight during my dreams. -

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by TheNinja

[ Dreams are still awesome. Last night I was able to wander through a construction zone and then get chased by police as I ran up hills and was able to easily evade their attempts to get me - I laughed at them from up on my pearch. Quite a fun experience. I wonder what I'll get the chance to do tonight during my dreams. -

hahaha...... hopefully, no nightmares involving capture and arrest last night........