machinehead
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Yesterday I finished the 5th bottle of 11-oxo and decided to share the results.
Background: It could be found in my Invalid Link Removed
Basic Stats:
Workout Program:
Cardio Program:
Dosing Protocol:
11-oxo caps per day
Week 1: x/6/6/6/6/6/6
Week 2: 6/7/7/7/7/7/7
Week 3: 8/8/8/8/8/8/8
Week 4: 8/8/8/8/8/8/8
Week 5: 10/10/10/10/10/8/8
Week 6: 8/8/8/8/6/x/x
Diet: I do not count calories, I estimate protein grams. Once I get my 2g per lb, I get the rest of the calories from fats or carbs, depending on circumstances. Typically, I have some fruit in the morning and then carbs before and after workout [close to 200 grams]. Most other meals contain almonds or cashews. Unless I am cheating, I don’t have carbs on weekends. That way I have managed to gain lean tissue and keep fat down, even lose some in the process.
Thoughts: The most noticeable effects of 11-oxo were on fat loss and mood. Now I know the true effects on cortisol on my body. The very first week I noticed a decrease in willpower: during my second workout on 11-oxo, the Friday of the first week, I harbored thoughts of switching to a less intense routine or quitting lifting altogether. My body adjusted to the effects, eventually, so that never reoccurred.
However, perhaps through the same mechanism, 11-oxo made me weak in the gym. First of all, it took me quite longer to get into the mood and feel like beating the logbook. Usually I am good after the first exercise but I now I was getting enough drive after the third exercise, the fight or flight reaction was delayed significantly. Secondly, even when I knew I had another rep in me, I didn’t. I even got stuck under the bar once. That typically happened during the second mini-set of the rest-pause sequence but was consistent throughout. I managed to add 20lbs to my squat and incline smith bench for reps in those 6 weeks, but that’s normal, it is DC training after all.
Whereas cortisol apparently gives me the drive in the gym, it also gives me a lot of anxiety afterwards, since I am flirting with overtraining all the time and my cortisol is normally high and its diurnal rhythm is out of whack. It seems to be low in the morning, getting up has been a struggle for as long as I remember, then goes higher at night, when I feel normal and energetic, and seems to stay high at night because each time I wake up my mind is running an infinite loop of negative thoughts and scenarios that would never occur. Those patterns diminished greatly with 11-oxo and once I tried 4 caps before bed and I was hooked. Days after the gym weren’t horrible, my mood was good [for me, that is] and I was relaxed and unengaged in infinite analysis that brings me anxiety. When I tapered down to 8 caps per day, I was still taking 4 before bed and I still believe that’s the dose that gave most of the effects.
I didn’t take formal measurements but I visibly leaned out. The effect was most pronounced at 10 caps a day, it was a day and night difference between 8 and 10 caps. I don’t think that 11-oxo helped my gains directly, though. My weight went up exactly 12lbs in 6 weeks, but that’s just 4lbs above my previous heaviest attained during my last blast. Since I did lose some fat, I’d say that’s a gain of 4 lean pounds, which is slightly above normal for me, but again it’s likely indirectly caused by the modulation of cortisol. I did not experience and androgenic effects, good or not so good. I did not feel shutdown but I did not feel ‘on’ either, I felt ‘off’ [see above]. It is possible that I don’t convert prohormones well since once I run a 1AD/4AD stack and got nothing out of it, even after going up to 800mg of 1AD and 900mg of 4AD per day. This is the first nonmethylated hormonal product that worked for me, although not as an androgen, so I am not your best test case.
Overall, I am happy with 11-oxo and I’d use it again but always with something else run alongside. Just for cortisol modulation, I’d do 4 caps before bed. For fat loss, I’d do 12 or more caps for as long as I could milk it. For pure anabolism, I wouldn’t bother.
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Background: It could be found in my Invalid Link Removed
Basic Stats:
- Age: 28
- Sex: Male
- Height: 5’ 9”
- BF: 10—11%
- Weight: 194.2
Workout Program:
DC, 2-way split, training MWF
Cardio Program:
- Saturday or Sunday: 45-60 min brisk walk upon rising
Dosing Protocol:
11-oxo caps per day
Week 1: x/6/6/6/6/6/6
Week 2: 6/7/7/7/7/7/7
Week 3: 8/8/8/8/8/8/8
Week 4: 8/8/8/8/8/8/8
Week 5: 10/10/10/10/10/8/8
Week 6: 8/8/8/8/6/x/x
Diet: I do not count calories, I estimate protein grams. Once I get my 2g per lb, I get the rest of the calories from fats or carbs, depending on circumstances. Typically, I have some fruit in the morning and then carbs before and after workout [close to 200 grams]. Most other meals contain almonds or cashews. Unless I am cheating, I don’t have carbs on weekends. That way I have managed to gain lean tissue and keep fat down, even lose some in the process.
Thoughts: The most noticeable effects of 11-oxo were on fat loss and mood. Now I know the true effects on cortisol on my body. The very first week I noticed a decrease in willpower: during my second workout on 11-oxo, the Friday of the first week, I harbored thoughts of switching to a less intense routine or quitting lifting altogether. My body adjusted to the effects, eventually, so that never reoccurred.
However, perhaps through the same mechanism, 11-oxo made me weak in the gym. First of all, it took me quite longer to get into the mood and feel like beating the logbook. Usually I am good after the first exercise but I now I was getting enough drive after the third exercise, the fight or flight reaction was delayed significantly. Secondly, even when I knew I had another rep in me, I didn’t. I even got stuck under the bar once. That typically happened during the second mini-set of the rest-pause sequence but was consistent throughout. I managed to add 20lbs to my squat and incline smith bench for reps in those 6 weeks, but that’s normal, it is DC training after all.
Whereas cortisol apparently gives me the drive in the gym, it also gives me a lot of anxiety afterwards, since I am flirting with overtraining all the time and my cortisol is normally high and its diurnal rhythm is out of whack. It seems to be low in the morning, getting up has been a struggle for as long as I remember, then goes higher at night, when I feel normal and energetic, and seems to stay high at night because each time I wake up my mind is running an infinite loop of negative thoughts and scenarios that would never occur. Those patterns diminished greatly with 11-oxo and once I tried 4 caps before bed and I was hooked. Days after the gym weren’t horrible, my mood was good [for me, that is] and I was relaxed and unengaged in infinite analysis that brings me anxiety. When I tapered down to 8 caps per day, I was still taking 4 before bed and I still believe that’s the dose that gave most of the effects.
I didn’t take formal measurements but I visibly leaned out. The effect was most pronounced at 10 caps a day, it was a day and night difference between 8 and 10 caps. I don’t think that 11-oxo helped my gains directly, though. My weight went up exactly 12lbs in 6 weeks, but that’s just 4lbs above my previous heaviest attained during my last blast. Since I did lose some fat, I’d say that’s a gain of 4 lean pounds, which is slightly above normal for me, but again it’s likely indirectly caused by the modulation of cortisol. I did not experience and androgenic effects, good or not so good. I did not feel shutdown but I did not feel ‘on’ either, I felt ‘off’ [see above]. It is possible that I don’t convert prohormones well since once I run a 1AD/4AD stack and got nothing out of it, even after going up to 800mg of 1AD and 900mg of 4AD per day. This is the first nonmethylated hormonal product that worked for me, although not as an androgen, so I am not your best test case.
Overall, I am happy with 11-oxo and I’d use it again but always with something else run alongside. Just for cortisol modulation, I’d do 4 caps before bed. For fat loss, I’d do 12 or more caps for as long as I could milk it. For pure anabolism, I wouldn’t bother.
My other reviews:
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