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Old 08-10-2007, 09:45 AM   #1
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IGF-2 / Anabolic Drive / Neovar / Osteobolin-C Applied Nutriceuticals supa stack

I've now been running this full set as a stack for about a week now (a bit longer for the Drive + Osteobolin alone) and I had to start this log already. I wanted to catch up on my existing detail log first, but I needed to put this up already particularly after todays workout. I will go back in later and fill in some of the past detail but I had to spit this out right after it happened

Quick recap, I had already started taking Osteobolin-C at 16 caps a day spread in 2 hr intervals (for the vitamin c absorption more than anything) when AN started their crazy Dirk on vacation contest. I was one of the big winners and nailed 3 of the contests as a part of it, I got one of the drive betas. Now I know that the beta I am taking is missing one of the components that are in the final, so imagine the results will be even better with final product.

Over this week although i'm at least 300-500 cal below maintenance daily, i've somehow managed to loose NO scale weight at all. The difference tho is that my vacularity and muscle definition are both noticeably up. In the approx 2 weeks of taking Drive, i've lost at least 3/4 inch from my waistline, while being within a pound of the start weight. For anyone reading this that doesnt know, I've been on a 6 month cut now, so no changes are water weight or any of that initial easy loss. I'm right about 14-16% body fat at this point, with an end goal of 10%. The other product I am currently using to aid in this is DCP, as it is a stim free fat burner, and i'm trying to clip back stims (other than maybe coffee) entirely for a while.

So the excitement of todays workout that forced me to finally start the log? I think I got Neovar just about dialed in now. Any of the nutrient partitioning products take some experimentation to really get right. Because they mimick an insulin response, your insulin sensitivity has a lot to do with how they work out. How many grams of carbs, type of carbs, time ingested, etc are very individual. Its not entirely surprising for one person to need just a single serving oatmeal packet to feel right, and for someone else to still feel hypoglycemic with 2 packs. Today I had one of the EAS Myoplex RTD shakes pre-workout, with 20g of basically all maltodextrin for carbs with a dose of neovar, and immediately post workout had a bannanna and a portabello mushroom patty on whole grain toast with another dose of neovar.

Damn is all I have to say. During the workout I got great but not overwhelming pumps. I could feel them, and felt all "puffed", but not to the point where I couldn't work out. After the post workout dose, within minutes I could see even more of a pump, more vascularity, and even got a little bit of the "skin looking like its paper thin" thing. Now at least I know what that means I only got that on my hands which makes sense as there is almost no fat there. But now I get an idea of what i'll look like elsewhere once I get down to that 10% bodyfat. Damn neovar will give some nice effect all over then!

I'll add some more detail about workout scheme and diet here later, or if anyone wants to look now take a look at the detail log link in my signature.
 



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Old 08-10-2007, 12:19 PM   #2
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Hell ya Easy! Good to see you finally got your log up! Will be watching for sure! The little whores grow up so fast these days!
 



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Old 08-12-2007, 02:52 PM   #3
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I'm definitely liking the neovar scheme i've developed. With heavier very complex carbs pre-workout (around 40-50g) oats and whole grains and a little bit lighter and also mix of some complex + simpler carbs - fruits + grains, some actual sugar. I get nice solid pumps during the workout, and stay "poofed" all day.
 



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Old 08-13-2007, 09:50 PM   #4
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I'm starting to feel like I should have gone for lean bulk with this stack and not concentrated so much on a recomp/light cut. I've started raising my calories by a fair amount, and i'm not seeing any weight gain, which is perfect. I've definitely taken at least an additional 300-400 cal a day this last week, and scale weight is the same. I think I was too low to get full benefit out of this. Now i'm probably close to 2000 cal a day, and i'm still getting leaner, and the scale is staying the same. At the 1500 calories, it may be that I wasn't getting in enough carbs and cals in general to fuel a decent recomp, even with such a solid supplement mix. We'll see how the next week goes. I'm definitely loving the way they feel together, and now I believe the neovar will become a staple creatine product for me.
 



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So funny enough, guess what?

Since I started taking drive about 2 1/2 weeks ago, I was still running at my 1500 or so calorie mark. I hadn't changed weight in at least a week or so before that, sticking to 197. Well over this last week i've been working at raising my calories, just getting to around 2000. Today on the scale i'm at 196...
 



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Originally Posted by EasyEJL
So funny enough, guess what?

Since I started taking drive about 2 1/2 weeks ago, I was still running at my 1500 or so calorie mark. I hadn't changed weight in at least a week or so before that, sticking to 197. Well over this last week i've been working at raising my calories, just getting to around 2000. Today on the scale i'm at 196...
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IGF-2 / Drive / Neovar score, Osteobolin-c not so much A nice solid upper body workout, weights went up on shoulders, back and triceps, which has been rare. Usually if I go high on shoulders or back, the triceps are whooped by the time I get to them. Nice aggression, nice vascularity (small veins mind you, but visible, i'll never have forearms like Metroba's avatar) and a good solid feeling pump. I really love a good pump in my lats, more than in any other muscle.

But my elbows hurt, which doesnt happen too often. I know my form was good, so maybe it was the strain of really pushing for the higer weights on everything. Oh well, Osteobolin has helped keep overall issues down, and the elbows only hurt for a little while, they feel fine now (6 hrs later).
 



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Lanbane where you been man! Good to see you around more, I sorta missed you.....
 



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Like your style, Easy! You are the Supp Freak we all trust! Keep it coming and good luck - we are all counting on you!

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