Epistane FTW!!! (and my virginity!) LB's LOG!
- 08-16-2007, 06:34 AM
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08-16-2007, 12:18 PM
08-16-2007, 01:40 PM
Histamines are released when you are allergic to something and also when niacin is present in high enough amounts. That causes the vessel dilation which makes the skin look red/pink, itchy, and even a little swollen.
08-16-2007, 02:52 PM
08-16-2007, 05:40 PM
unless it would still be benificial in other manners but you are a severe reactor to it?
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08-17-2007, 07:16 PM
this was an off day with my new w/o...felt good to just relax!!
great! today (last night) i really felt good in the gym, like really good. i was doing dumbell shoulder press and my buddy told me to bump up to 75's on my last set and i was like haah f*ck that..not yet not yet (mainly because i've had shoulder surgery before, and because my left shoulder took a **** like a month ago) needless to say peer pressure got the best of me...i pumped out those 75's...8 damn times! man it felt so good...i was so pumped up! im really starting to feel this i think- almost positive. im already looking bigger, i can def. tell that. my diet is stayin pretty good too...tonight is another night- i hope i shred it up!
08-17-2007, 07:37 PM
I'm going to start posting my workouts...so im going to back up to starting this week....
Wide grip decling machine 186x8 - 236x8 - 266x6
flat BB bench press 135x8 185x8 225x4
BB military press 135x8 165x8 185x5
CG bench 135x8 155x8 175x6
squat 95x8 135x8 185x8
seated calve raise 60x9 90x8 120x8
BB bent over row 95x8 125x8 165x4
wide grip lat pull down 120x8 140x8 165x5
close grip lat pull down 120x8 140x8 165x4
DB shrug 70x8 85x8 95x8
DB curl 35x6 30x8 45x4
hammer curl 35x8 40x8 40x8
stiff leg deadlift 95x8 115x8 154x8
incline DB press 55x8 65x8 75x8
DB shoulder press 50x8 65x8 75x8
Skull crusher 55x8 60x8 70x6
leg press 270x8 320x8 340x6
leg press calf raise 90x8 110x8 180x8
08-17-2007, 07:40 PM
08-18-2007, 10:21 PM
Thanks for the detailed log, looking forward to my 1st run w/ epi later this year. Glad its workin for you
08-19-2007, 03:10 PM
The only thing that is keeping me back is that I don't have any access to a SERM - do you think I might be able to pull off a cycle of Epistane/Havoc without a SERM in post cycle therapy?
I live in Europe and you have to be a practicing M.D. or something before you can even think about laying your hands on stuff like SERMs.
08-19-2007, 03:18 PM
Can't imagine going through the dreaded Beta-Alaine tickle while at the same time experiencing the famed Niacian flush - I bet you are itching all over, bro!
Is there, btw, any liver toxicity issues with taking that much nicotinic acid (I presume it's nicotinic acid and not niacinamide because of the skin flushing one gets)?
08-19-2007, 03:22 PM
I also read Havoc is a bad idea as a first cycle. Havoc is harsh man, rethink it. I'm not sure and could be very very wrong but isn't Epi methylated? also Havoc?
Arzi75 you have PM
08-19-2007, 03:41 PM
Hmmm, I thought Havoc is the same as Epistane, and I'm not going to take both, one or the other.
The reason I have chosen Epi or Havoc is that from what I have read the sides are pretty non-existent?
But the problem is that I am not sure if it is wise - even pulsing - to try to pull off either without a SERM?
I was thinking along the lines of HDx2, 6-OXO or ATD for PCT, but I am not convinced if that is enough for either Havoc or Epistane.
08-19-2007, 03:46 PM
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08-22-2007, 07:22 AM
im gonna be starting epi soon, well a few weeks after the hols. im gonna pulse it for 8 weeks.
I am looking for a post cycle therapy that i can legaly buy in ireland.
So would anabolic extreme advanced post cycle therapy be good enough or would i need more with it. nolva and all that are banned from coming through customs here.
so help please. i really appreciate it. thanx.
so it would look like this then i hope
week 1-8 epi (pulse)
week 8-12 jungle warfare or hyperdrolx2 (last day or 2 of epi)
week 8-12 post cycle therapy ( ) please fill in the blank. HAHa.
any help much appreciated. remember legal in ireland. thanx:good:
08-23-2007, 02:07 AM
Irish, Advanced P.C.T. or HDX2 either would be well suited for PCT, especially after an epi pulse. Not sure about the suppression qualities of JW, I hear mixed reviews about that and haven't tried it myself yet.
08-23-2007, 03:27 AM
thanx d, i tried to email you back the other day from bn site but ur email isnt working. thanx for the help. i got confused because there are so many reviews and everyone has a different pct.
one other thing, is there any alcohol allowed while on epi. ireland are in the rugby world cup starting soon and you know how that goes, if we do well it could lead to a few nights out. haha. fingers crossed.
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