Starting Today Havoc Pulse Cycle
- 08-07-2007, 04:12 AM
Starting Today Havoc Pulse Cycle
Right after god knows how many questions and hours reading posts on every forum out there, then waiting for my bottle to arrive I have started!
I am going to run a pulse cycle taking Havoc EOD. It will be M-W-F but being I could not wait today I will start out T-TH-SA then loop round.
I am 29 and live in the UK.
I have this morning weighed in at 185.5lbs and a bf of 14% (taken using skin fold calipers).
Week 1 Day 1 10mg Havoc Pre W/O
Week 1 Day 2 10mg Havoc Pre W/O 10mg Post W/O
Week 1 Day 3 20mg Havoc Pre W/O 10mg Post W/O
Week 2 20mg Havoc Pre W/O 10mg Post W/O
Week 3 20mg Havoc Pre W/O 10mg Post W/O
Week 4 I will decide based on gains and body reaction if I bump to 40mg 20mg either side of workouts or continue as weeks 2+3.
I will also start on the 4th week taking a low dose 2-3 tabs of 6-oxo extreme on my 'off days' in the evening and continue this process till the end of my cycle.
Week 5 Same as above, If I am still gaining and not feeling to many sides I will continue potentially upto 7 weeks in total. I f I feel that the benefits are slowing or feeling that my body has had enough I will quit after 4 weeks.
I intend to run 2 weeks of 6-oxo extreme and milk thistle and CQ10. I will have Tamoxifen on hand but have found few posts where people who have pulsed for brief periods needing a SERM. However, I have the sachets if needed.
I will be looking to consume 4000 cals a day (I normally average just over 3000) all clean, but then I always do eat clean - I am lucky and have little food cravings and no sweet tooth. I will be using a 35/35/30 ratio which if I remember correctly from typing this into my meal tracker it worked out 320g protein, 350g carbs, 150g fat.
Day 1 Chest, shoulders and triceps
Day 2 Legs, Back and bieps
Day 3 Repeat Day 1
Day 4 Repeat Day 2 and so on..............
Woke up 05:30
Meal 1 Whey, oats and an apple blended. 10mg HAVOC
Work Out 06:45
Went nicely - no difference - hardly suprised expect to feel nothing before at least 3rd dose if then.
Post W/O Shake 07:25
100g Waxy Maize Starch
400ml Skimmed Milk
Meal 2 08:15
I will then eat every 3 hours before settling down roughly 21:30. My last main meal at around 18:30 will always be either fish or poultry and vegetables, possibly cottage cheese ommelettes on days when I am in a rush but basically carbs stop as of late afternoon. Pre bed will be a 40g protein shake with 20g of fats from Udo's Choice.
I will look to post every 2-3 days, ideally every work out day.
Any comments are welcome on the log itself or the cycle, diet or training.
Wish me luck!
- 08-07-2007, 07:29 AM
- 08-07-2007, 08:07 AM
Quick 1st day update:-
It is lunch time, and I have eaten for the 4th time today! But I am posting to say that 'the boys' have felt good this morning.
When I have a good w/o for a couple of hours I get that feeling of production (best way I can think of describing it). Well today I still have this strong, nearly 5 hours on - normally would have gone by now.
Nice....................Lookin g forward to thursday when I have 10mg post w/o already to see what impact that has - the office furtniture legs had better watch out if it gets more intense, unfortunately that is more attractive then any of the staff!
08-09-2007, 03:03 PM
Day 3 and my 2nd w/o.
Took 20mg today, 10mg either side of my workout. Can't day that I have noticed any benefit or difference during the workout yet, byt I have always thought it would take till week 2 before it did.
The thing I am most aware of at the moment is throbbing balls all day long, in that stimulated way you get after a high gh session.
Did deadlifts and squats before moving on to barbell rows, I think next time I will do my rows first as the strain from the lifts told when rowing and I struggled to feel my lats working and lift quite aswell as I would have liked to.
I have eaten like a horse today though, went to Nando's for lunch and had a whole chicken and rice, then finished the mrs's 1/4 chicken. I also managed to munch through 300g of oats and 120g whey too, a few eggs and some extra lean bacon, couple of apples - just my pre bed shake to go - my arse has plenty to say though as my body tries to deal with the onslaught!
Can't wait till saturday and day 3 on 30mg's. Bench press! really hoping to see some extra reps squeezed out over last week but have told myself not to get to downhearted if it does'nt. Week 2 gains that is my prediction. Will weight myself and get the calipers out the following day again and post back as I fear I could be on route to becoming a fat bastard with all this food.
08-09-2007, 03:08 PM
08-14-2007, 04:16 AM
1 Calender week completed.
Weight +1.5 lbm
I have decided to switch my training to a full body 3x a week alternating heavy low reps and lighter higher reps for body parts, yestredays session felt better for this.
So far I have not really noticed anything at all since starting the cycle, possibly my chest felt a bit more pumped when benching yesterday..........I am hoping that this week hitting 30mg each dose will be the start of things!
08-14-2007, 08:30 AM
08-14-2007, 06:32 PM
08-15-2007, 03:37 AM
Havoc Pulse Log Week 2
Well didnt get the chance to weight and measure this morning as I was in a rush so had to settle just for the workout.
Had a good workout though still not really aware of any strength increases on any lifts, I am a little dissapointed but reading over posts again it seems that those who use Epi and do not oulse say that most strength comes at week 2-3 so on that basis it oculd still take some time if pusling?
Not yet really had any sides, I have had 2 spots on my face but am not convinced it is purely the cycle and not excess sweat from the intense heat I have been sleeping in and the sun duting the day.
I am desperate to try and weight myself tom and measure as 1 week in will give me a good guide on calorie intake based on my bf readings so hopefully will have time when waking in the morning and will report my gains (hopefully, but I think if anything my weight will be constant and I may have dropped.5% bf or so)
08-16-2007, 06:14 AM
Day 9 Results
Weighed in @ 189lbs with bf at 14%
+3.5lbm gain so far
If I can continue to gain 3lbs a week and no fat I will be delighted, by the end of my 4 weeks a stone of muscle should show!
I am considering upping to 40mgs and starting very low 6-oxo extreme doses on my 'off' days from day 13.
08-20-2007, 12:27 AM
08-20-2007, 12:44 AM
08-20-2007, 12:47 AM
08-20-2007, 06:30 AM
08-20-2007, 11:12 AM
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08-21-2007, 06:34 AM
Well day 12's bench press was positive as I finally had some strength increases, nothing amazing but lifting in a pyramid fashion I worked up in weight/down in reps to do a 2 set max and lifted 4 reps and then managed 5lbs more for my 2 rep set - felt good to feel some progress!
I have decided to leave my bulking focus, since taking my bf measurements again for the purpose of logging progress on this cycle I have come to realise I am not happy with my layer on my abs - had not really noticed untill pinching it for caliper readings!
I am not going to diet as such but eat a regular calorie intake which for me would be around the 2800-3200 mark, more on weight days if only from the post w/o drink. I am also going to be restrictive with the carbs, no atkins or anything but a conservative intake and none after lunch to try and lean out but keeping overall calories high enough that I should still make some gains, just leaner.
For the last 3 'on' says I have upped it to 40mgs and believe this has made a difference with finally seeing some progress. I did start taking 6-oxo extreme on my 'off' days but have now stopped as I was not feeling shut down and have started getting a couple of spots on my face and feel it is this product more than then havoc/epi. My only ever ph cycle using superdrol a year ago I expierienced the worst acne during pct!
Well I am going to try and jump back on the scales in the morning and take bf readings again, am confident that they will not have gone up, hopefully down - but ideally weight sat at the gained 3.5lbm of 189lbs!?
08-23-2007, 06:46 PM
08-24-2007, 02:50 AM
I have now stopped the cycle for 2 weeks.
I have bene handed a hectic work schedule and can not guarantee consistency of workouts so felt it better to let my body have a couple of weeks to sort itself out before going again.
When I start up I am going to stack Havoc with 11-oxo for better fat loss and hopefully maintiaining maybe even gaining a little strength.
I will take 6 caps a day of the oxo which I think gives 10 servings from memory, so 20 days on a pulse of EOD. I have sufficent Havoc to last a month running at 4 a day. I will ramp up on the Havoc 20, 30 40.
I will post back my weight and bf before closing this thread.
08-24-2007, 09:17 AM
Havoc and 11-oxo is a wicked combo. I was on the 11-oxo but I stopped it soon because the sides were to much for a female.
08-24-2007, 01:01 PM
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