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    Starting Today Havoc Pulse Cycle


    Right after god knows how many questions and hours reading posts on every forum out there, then waiting for my bottle to arrive I have started!

    I am going to run a pulse cycle taking Havoc EOD. It will be M-W-F but being I could not wait today I will start out T-TH-SA then loop round.

    I am 29 and live in the UK.
    I have this morning weighed in at 185.5lbs and a bf of 14% (taken using skin fold calipers).

    The Cycle

    Week 1 Day 1 10mg Havoc Pre W/O
    Week 1 Day 2 10mg Havoc Pre W/O 10mg Post W/O
    Week 1 Day 3 20mg Havoc Pre W/O 10mg Post W/O

    Week 2 20mg Havoc Pre W/O 10mg Post W/O

    Week 3 20mg Havoc Pre W/O 10mg Post W/O

    Week 4 I will decide based on gains and body reaction if I bump to 40mg 20mg either side of workouts or continue as weeks 2+3.

    I will also start on the 4th week taking a low dose 2-3 tabs of 6-oxo extreme on my 'off days' in the evening and continue this process till the end of my cycle.

    Week 5 Same as above, If I am still gaining and not feeling to many sides I will continue potentially upto 7 weeks in total. I f I feel that the benefits are slowing or feeling that my body has had enough I will quit after 4 weeks.

    Post Cycle

    I intend to run 2 weeks of 6-oxo extreme and milk thistle and CQ10. I will have Tamoxifen on hand but have found few posts where people who have pulsed for brief periods needing a SERM. However, I have the sachets if needed.


    Diet

    I will be looking to consume 4000 cals a day (I normally average just over 3000) all clean, but then I always do eat clean - I am lucky and have little food cravings and no sweet tooth. I will be using a 35/35/30 ratio which if I remember correctly from typing this into my meal tracker it worked out 320g protein, 350g carbs, 150g fat.

    Training

    3x Week

    Day 1 Chest, shoulders and triceps
    Day 2 Legs, Back and bieps
    Day 3 Repeat Day 1
    Day 4 Repeat Day 2 and so on..............


    Cycle Start

    Day 1
    Woke up 05:30
    Meal 1 Whey, oats and an apple blended. 10mg HAVOC

    Work Out 06:45
    Went nicely - no difference - hardly suprised expect to feel nothing before at least 3rd dose if then.

    Post W/O Shake 07:25
    100g Waxy Maize Starch
    30g Whey
    400ml Skimmed Milk
    5g Glutamine

    Meal 2 08:15

    I will then eat every 3 hours before settling down roughly 21:30. My last main meal at around 18:30 will always be either fish or poultry and vegetables, possibly cottage cheese ommelettes on days when I am in a rush but basically carbs stop as of late afternoon. Pre bed will be a 40g protein shake with 20g of fats from Udo's Choice.

    I will look to post every 2-3 days, ideally every work out day.

    Any comments are welcome on the log itself or the cycle, diet or training.

    Wish me luck!

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    Quick 1st day update:-

    It is lunch time, and I have eaten for the 4th time today! But I am posting to say that 'the boys' have felt good this morning.

    When I have a good w/o for a couple of hours I get that feeling of production (best way I can think of describing it). Well today I still have this strong, nearly 5 hours on - normally would have gone by now.

    Nice....................Lookin g forward to thursday when I have 10mg post w/o already to see what impact that has - the office furtniture legs had better watch out if it gets more intense, unfortunately that is more attractive then any of the staff!
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    Day 3 and my 2nd w/o.

    Took 20mg today, 10mg either side of my workout. Can't day that I have noticed any benefit or difference during the workout yet, byt I have always thought it would take till week 2 before it did.

    The thing I am most aware of at the moment is throbbing balls all day long, in that stimulated way you get after a high gh session.

    Did deadlifts and squats before moving on to barbell rows, I think next time I will do my rows first as the strain from the lifts told when rowing and I struggled to feel my lats working and lift quite aswell as I would have liked to.

    I have eaten like a horse today though, went to Nando's for lunch and had a whole chicken and rice, then finished the mrs's 1/4 chicken. I also managed to munch through 300g of oats and 120g whey too, a few eggs and some extra lean bacon, couple of apples - just my pre bed shake to go - my arse has plenty to say though as my body tries to deal with the onslaught!

    Can't wait till saturday and day 3 on 30mg's. Bench press! really hoping to see some extra reps squeezed out over last week but have told myself not to get to downhearted if it does'nt. Week 2 gains that is my prediction. Will weight myself and get the calipers out the following day again and post back as I fear I could be on route to becoming a fat bastard with all this food.
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    1 Calender week completed.

    Weight +1.5 lbm

    I have decided to switch my training to a full body 3x a week alternating heavy low reps and lighter higher reps for body parts, yestredays session felt better for this.

    So far I have not really noticed anything at all since starting the cycle, possibly my chest felt a bit more pumped when benching yesterday..........I am hoping that this week hitting 30mg each dose will be the start of things!
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    Kickass!!! Time to GFH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by asianbabe View Post
    Kickass!!! Time to GFH!
    GFH! I wish that was used more around here! Good luck on the log!
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    Havoc Pulse Log Week 2


    Well didnt get the chance to weight and measure this morning as I was in a rush so had to settle just for the workout.

    Had a good workout though still not really aware of any strength increases on any lifts, I am a little dissapointed but reading over posts again it seems that those who use Epi and do not oulse say that most strength comes at week 2-3 so on that basis it oculd still take some time if pusling?

    Not yet really had any sides, I have had 2 spots on my face but am not convinced it is purely the cycle and not excess sweat from the intense heat I have been sleeping in and the sun duting the day.

    I am desperate to try and weight myself tom and measure as 1 week in will give me a good guide on calorie intake based on my bf readings so hopefully will have time when waking in the morning and will report my gains (hopefully, but I think if anything my weight will be constant and I may have dropped.5% bf or so)
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    Day 9 Results


    Weighed in @ 189lbs with bf at 14%

    +3.5lbm gain so far

    If I can continue to gain 3lbs a week and no fat I will be delighted, by the end of my 4 weeks a stone of muscle should show!

    I am considering upping to 40mgs and starting very low 6-oxo extreme doses on my 'off' days from day 13.
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    Looking great!! Must be nice to see gains without the fat!
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    gluck dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    gluck dude
    shut your face newb..................
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    Quote Originally Posted by asianbabe View Post
    lol somebody is aggro in here!
    sorry asianbabe.....but it had to be said...... nycste is really a 12 year old girl with braces anyway....ahahahah

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    Day 14


    Well day 12's bench press was positive as I finally had some strength increases, nothing amazing but lifting in a pyramid fashion I worked up in weight/down in reps to do a 2 set max and lifted 4 reps and then managed 5lbs more for my 2 rep set - felt good to feel some progress!

    Day 14

    I have decided to leave my bulking focus, since taking my bf measurements again for the purpose of logging progress on this cycle I have come to realise I am not happy with my layer on my abs - had not really noticed untill pinching it for caliper readings!

    I am not going to diet as such but eat a regular calorie intake which for me would be around the 2800-3200 mark, more on weight days if only from the post w/o drink. I am also going to be restrictive with the carbs, no atkins or anything but a conservative intake and none after lunch to try and lean out but keeping overall calories high enough that I should still make some gains, just leaner.


    For the last 3 'on' says I have upped it to 40mgs and believe this has made a difference with finally seeing some progress. I did start taking 6-oxo extreme on my 'off' days but have now stopped as I was not feeling shut down and have started getting a couple of spots on my face and feel it is this product more than then havoc/epi. My only ever ph cycle using superdrol a year ago I expierienced the worst acne during pct!

    Well I am going to try and jump back on the scales in the morning and take bf readings again, am confident that they will not have gone up, hopefully down - but ideally weight sat at the gained 3.5lbm of 189lbs!?

    We'll see................
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    So what did the scale read?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    So what did the scale read?
    I'll tell you tommorrow, need new batteries for it!


    I have now stopped the cycle for 2 weeks.

    I have bene handed a hectic work schedule and can not guarantee consistency of workouts so felt it better to let my body have a couple of weeks to sort itself out before going again.

    When I start up I am going to stack Havoc with 11-oxo for better fat loss and hopefully maintiaining maybe even gaining a little strength.

    I will take 6 caps a day of the oxo which I think gives 10 servings from memory, so 20 days on a pulse of EOD. I have sufficent Havoc to last a month running at 4 a day. I will ramp up on the Havoc 20, 30 40.

    I will post back my weight and bf before closing this thread.
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    Havoc and 11-oxo is a wicked combo. I was on the 11-oxo but I stopped it soon because the sides were to much for a female.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    Havoc and 11-oxo is a wicked combo. I was on the 11-oxo but I stopped it soon because the sides were to much for a female.
    What sides did you get?
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