drksun's 8weeks of bulking, jungle warfare

[drksun]

I've been gathering up supplements, haha i got most of them for free , and i work at *** . I'm gonna go 4weeks JW, then 4weeks of BAM or JW not sure yet, i also have 1week of 11-oxo (3/day) left but when i took it i lost all libido but the jw should keep me up.

Protien/Carbs
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1 Tub Cytogainer (new) (3g creatine mono)
1 Tub ON Procomplex Gainer (new)
1 ON Procomplex (1/2 full)
1 Soild Mass Gainer (3/4 full)
1 Tub NOW Carbo Gain (3/4 full)

Support Supps
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Fishoil, its *** 1g softgels (im thinking 2g/day? jw is dry)

ZMA, *** brand, supprised it works better then the NOW zma i had, i get morning wood 24/7 and good sleep.

L-glutamine, i know..i know gultamine dosent work i read all the pubmed entries about it, wondering if i should even bother? Edit: actually it has some BCAAs added so why now.. i take 5g every night (lol 1g BCAA/5g) oh well

Pre-Workout
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Smash (1/2 full) has 3g cee/malate


Test boosters/AI/SCRM/ w/e
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1 JW (new) (normal dosing)
1 11-oxo (21 pills) should i even add this? and when?






Any suggestions on how i should run this? cytogainer or procomplex gainer first? Should i bother with the 11-oxo? Im worried that JW will suppress my appetite, but ill force it down.

[drksun]

Day 1 - 166lb
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Great workout, not really feeling anything yet. The smash gave me an intense workout, i was very focused and had huge pumps. Looking forward to a bigger appitite with jw, I've read mixed things. One of my best back/bi workouts.. Oh yeah and libido is crazy right now, zma maybe (I've been taking it for a couple weeks)

[bishop17]

nice selection......*** sells jw??

[drksun]

nice selection......*** sells jw??

haha ya right, i got it from nutraplanet

[drksun]

Day 2 - Rest Day
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I got a headache, and that cytogainer is upsetting my stomach. Not feeling any alpha male yet. Everything should kick in by day 7.

[drksun]

Day 3 - 169lb
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Little stronger, went up on all my lifts. I went up a few lbs since i started bulking, hopefully i can get around 185-190 by the end of the bulk.. No headache today, i ate more carbs. Libido is up and not really feeling crazy alpha male yet but i think jw isnt working in full force yet, hopefully by day 5.

[drksun]

Day 4 - Rest Day
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Feeling good, no headache , ate alot, going to taco tuesday and bulking up. looking to hit 170 tomorrow

[drksun]

Day 13
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sry its been awhile since i have updated, alpha male really kicked in, even though i still wasn't feeling touch enough to jump off this 50' cliff into the ocean with my friends today.. My lifts are up and i have a huge appetite, i had a quadruple burger and fries, then i was still hungry so i got more fries and a milkshake.

170lbs

[drksun]

Long time to update, im at 178lb right now, i back on jw for 10days, then 60days of blue up. hopefully hitting 190 by the end. I stocked back up on protein and im eating lots.

[greenwing7]

wowie how is the b/f to lean muscle gain?

[hardknock]

R U just trying to gain the weight first, then cut...alah the old school way?

[drksun]

wowie how is the b/f to lean muscle gain?

ill get the % tommorw at the gym, but it seems like i only gained a little bit of fat in the gut, and my back and arms seem bigger i got pics too ill compare. i just gotta do some hw for class tomorrow so ill get on that tomorrow.

[drksun]

R U just trying to gain the weight first, then cut...alah the old school way?

pretty much, if i end up playing lacrosse, and depending on my speed/endurance i might start cutting in jan-feb, if not then ill start cutting in may. What other way would you recommend, i pretty much allready cut down and i was a skinny 166, im trying to lean bulk but its hard, and this dirty bulk isnt making me too fat.

[drksun]

man im fat lol i didnt notice the water/fat difference until now,
well im stronger adlest, and 4 years ago i was 190lb, so ad least i know i can drop weight if i want.

[drksun]

amazing workout today, seems like the jw allready kicked in. Im around 177-178, im gonna go eat.

[drksun]

ive only been back on jw for a week and libido is at 2x, like isn't high enough at 18 years old. Gonna start blueup tomorrow for 8 weeks. I ordered a bottle of havoc too before it gets banned, i heard rpn isn't making it anytime soon because its too hard to get the raw mats in with the dea raids/busts. I might pule havoc in a year or two.

[Cellardude]

if your 18 you dont need JW. Just do it the good old fashion way. Doesnt seem like you gained a ton of weight either even with the JW.

[drksun]

if your 18 you dont need JW. Just do it the good old fashion way. Doesnt seem like you gained a ton of weight either even with the JW.

10lb for 20 days of JW, dosent sound too bad, i know i gained fat too obviously (look at the pics), but the jw helped my appetite a lot, not to be rude but i've done my research, i work at a supplement store, and i know what enough about steroids to mess with JW.

[drksun]

So im at 180 right now and 20% bodyfat, if my math is right these are my "gains" so far, i went up 2% bodyfat, not good but im happy with the muscle gain, im a lot stronger and only on day 2 of blue up.

+6.14lb fat, +7.86 muscle

[drksun]

I need to fix my diet, I'm bulking but its very dirty, the JW/blueup transition is going well, yesterday at the gym my lifts were up a lot, i went up on my bench, still a long way till a havoc cycle. Maybe after this bulk if a get my diet down and feel i can take full advantage of a cycle, i know I'm only 18 and too young, but i can defiantly say I've done my research.