drksun's 8weeks of bulking, jungle warfare
10-02-2007 05:31 PM
Subbbbbeeeddddd Log Looks Good More Input To Come As Of Now Off To The Gym Yahhh Dig?
10-04-2007 12:03 AM
did legs today, im at 181lbs its all water though, i uped my water intake and i think i was a little dehydrated. did legs today, workout was pretty good.
10-04-2007 03:58 PM
LLLLLLEEEEEEGGGGGGG DAAAAAAYYYY i cant wait i got one today too!:squat: :squat: :squat: :squat: :squat:
Originally Posted by drksun
10-04-2007 06:43 PM
im going to start a modified westside barbelll program, its a mon/wen/fri lift schedule, this is ease me into my havoc pule cycle.
10-04-2007 07:22 PM
just letting you know, 8 pounds of solid muscles is good results for some PH's on reg cycles out there.
I SERIOUSLY think you should reconsider running a pulse havoc cycle. For someone who makes a statement such as this one needs to do some reevaluating. Just to let you know, 20 % body fat is nowhere near what you are. I wonder how accurate you came to the conclusion of muscle/fat when you cant accurately tell your body fat. Not trying to flame you or anything, I just think your making half asses choices right now. JW followed by Blue Up? your test level should be at an all time high. you look like your 19. Also anyone can work at GNC. the requirements are that you speak english. It's nice your making gains, get off the havoc though.
So im at 180 right now and 20% bodyfat, if my math is right these are my "gains" so far, i went up 2% bodyfat, not good but im happy with the muscle gain, im a lot stronger and only on day 2 of blue up.
+6.14lb fat, +7.86 muscle
10-07-2007 03:14 PM
heres my math..
if i gained 2% body fat, dosent matter how accurate the test was becuase i used the same test both times. It was a bodyfat calliper test done by a trainer at my gym. Sure it might not be verry percise but its a good scope.
Don't judge me because i work at GNC, its not like that places was my first choice.. i just need money lol, second of all its more than just speeking english, but no your right you dont have to know anything about supplements to work there, im a daily regular contributer to the steriods/pct forums, and i know my stuff, well i try .
Original 18% bodyfat (166lb)
Now 20% bodyfat (180lb)
lets assume i was at the same hydration both times
that would be
(166 * .18 = 29.88) and (180 * .2 = 36)
(36 - 29.88 = 6.12)
so i gained 6.12lb fat
(180 - 166 = 14)
I gained 14lbs, 6.12lb fat... hmmm but i gained more than 6.12lb? what must it be???
(14 - 6.12) = +7.88 <----OMGWTF!!!??? what is this mystery weight? who knows?
rounding is different that the 1st time i did it, but you get the idea.
10-07-2007 03:20 PM
i think your scale is wrong. my brother would be 20% body fat. 20% body fat is to the point where no muscles would show through the fat. As you can see you can see some in your case. I would be careful who to take advice from sometimes. you should give a rough estimate based on the mirror. Never trust a digital device. After all it is just a number. Just how our weight is a number. Doesnt determine what that weight is made up of. You need to consider other things as well.
10-07-2007 08:03 PM
.... a trainer used calipers to do the test, took measurements from 4 different spots, and did it twice to make sure it was right. It wasn't a digital skin impedance body fat monitor. I used the scale at my gym, im sure its accurate, also i used to same devices to get those numbers both times, im pretty sure i did my calculations and measurements in a scientific fashion, and they are fairly accurate.
Originally Posted by Cellardude
do you have any scientific evidence, any studies, anything proving 20% bodyfat = "the point where no muscles would show through the fat", i would love to read them. No to be a **** or anything, but i would be careful who to take advice from sometimes.
10-07-2007 09:07 PM
im not saying that im right or your trainer is wrong. Im basically saying 20% body fat is A LOT of fat. 20% body fat is something like this.
Originally Posted by drksun
Im basically telling you, your mirror is the best way to tell sometimes. If a reading says that your 15% body fat and your lean as hell then theres something wrong with the test no matter if its digital or manual. Im not going to argue with you. Im just trying to inform you of your mistake.
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