Neoborn's Formestane / Leviathan Log

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    Thanks man, and yes we do, please don't forget half the world is "Americanized" I am going to pick up some of that Salymarin then or NAC after researching it.



    It didn't I got my results back from my bloodtest telling me I have some problem areas.

    1. Blood sugar possible pre diabetes ( most likely not but we'll see )

    2. Cholesterol - Bad cholesterol values

    3. BP

    4. Liver values.

    This is all from being a fat lazy f*cker for many years including having a sitdown job and loving bacon n eggs . So now I'm taking the steps to resolve this.

    This is where the Niacin comes into play because of my cholesterol. I read where Niacin in reasonably large doses reduced bad chol, raised good and boosted IGF-1 if taken on an empty stomach. I also drink orange juice and am going to start capping cinnamon which will also help with blood sugar issue.

    That's why I got the idea about Niacin "possibly" helping absorbtion via the flush / capillary system opening up....just a thought.



    Kewl did you read this Prld?



    Was just a thought with no science behind it but it does dilate blood vessels etc so.....
    Just keep in mind that it dilates blood vessels, it doesn't dilate skin layers. So for penatration and absorption I doubt it'll be anything substantial, buuuuuut you could try it and see how it works.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!




  2. Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    Kewl did you read this Prld?
    Niacin has been used for hypercholesterol since the 50's, as aside from statins it's one of the only other things to offer statistically significant effects in each and every trial run.... so your theory is spot on with the intended effects. I question the authors advice on offering niacinamide for the same effects in hopes of avoiding adverse sides with nicotinic acid. There has been no studies done with niacinamide which indicates it lowers lipids whatsoever... so how they got that conclusion I don't know.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!


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  3. Currently taking 2g's of niacin now & 6 Leviathan, do people get an 'on' feeling with Leviathan?

  4. It's a pretty darn good thermogenic.... definetly makes you feel like moving some weight.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  5. Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    Currently taking 2g's of niacin now & 6 Leviathan, do people get an 'on' feeling with Leviathan?
    I get really warm....never shaky, even @ 8 a day I didnt..haha...

  6. Quote Originally Posted by john123131 View Post
    I get really warm....never shaky, even @ 8 a day I didnt..haha...
    I'm at 6 a day. I know what you mean by warm. It was hard to tell in the beginning because I was dosing it at the same time as the Niacin. Both are working wonderfully.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    I'm at 6 a day. I know what you mean by warm. It was hard to tell in the beginning because I was dosing it at the same time as the Niacin. Both are working wonderfully.

    good to hear C....is it hot as hell up in ONT. right now?...its sooo humid here its gross....one nice day, one humid day where I sweat all f-ing day, then sun again...crazy weather. Think the ocean would help with a breeze...naw....sucks

  8. Yes it's crazy hot. Good thing I hide away all day in the AC

  9. Updated with current details added to OP

  10. You said you were gonna get some blood values. I'd be particularly interested to see if there were effects from the form.

    Neo, any sides? Palpitations, irritability/anxiety, and interference with sleep patterns are sides that are hit or miss for me with form.
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  11. I am going to get blood still after tapering down to zero on day 30. How long should I wait after that for blood?

    Sides to begin with because I upped the dose quickly and had wonderful ( I actually like the on feeling ) palpitations, other than that no sides whatsoever unless you call having huge lovely balls and a libido again sides

    Much Love,

    Neoborn.

  12. I'd ask prld and bigT on appropriate time frame to get the blood drawn. I see john and mace are subbed and they are also much more experienced than me. I have a pretty good idea but would like to defer to more experienced sources.

    Re the palpitations,to each his own I guess

  13. Honestly would wait the length of time on before getting the blood drawn. 30 days or so.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  14. Nooooooooo I can't wait that long Have to start my DS Activate Extreme log How about a week

    Much Love,

    Neoborn

  15. Honestly at a week results would probably still be off a little, if your planning the DS stack then try to wait at least 2(but you got to do what you got to do).
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  16. ok 2 it is . It's gonna be tough. Man I am having such a hard time with not doing my Epi pulse run It's calling my name from the fridge, taunting me every day, telling me how big I am gonna get, how cut n sexy I will look, can't take much more.......cann't tttttt....aakkkke .....muchhhhhhhhh.....morrrrrr rrrrrrreeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    ok 2 it is . It's gonna be tough. Man I am having such a hard time with not doing my Epi pulse run It's calling my name from the fridge, taunting me every day, telling me how big I am gonna get, how cut n sexy I will look, can't take much more.......cann't tttttt....aakkkke .....muchhhhhhhhh.....morrrrrr rrrrrrreeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
    Hmm now that you are an IBE rep, and will have access to real epistane, what are you going to do with the epidrol?

    Dang 6 leviathan a day eh? I was pondering that for my PAL contest, not sure whether i'm allowed Whats your weight down to? And did you find a job again? I don't remember seeing you post anything on that.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Hmm now that you are an IBE rep, and will have access to real epistane, what are you going to do with the epidrol?

    Dang 6 leviathan a day eh? I was pondering that for my PAL contest, not sure whether i'm allowed Whats your weight down to? And did you find a job again? I don't remember seeing you post anything on that.
    neo's a rep? congratulations bro, you've earned it. but i too am interested in what you're stats are from this. 6 levi isnt that bad, after tolerance build up i think most people do around 6. neo this is just me, but i would go right into the act- x and stay on the form. lots of guys who have logged ae seem to think activatex/form would be great together. good luck buddy.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  19. [QUOTE=EasyEJL;986126]Hmm now that you are an IBE rep, and will have access to real epistane, what are you going to do with the epidrol?

    Dang 6 leviathan a day eh? I was pondering that for my PAL contest, not sure whether i'm allowed Whats your weight down to? And did you find a job again? I don't remember seeing you post anything on that.[/Q

    I am going to pulse the Epidrol and then continue on with Epistane if I need to. I got the Epidrol for testing purposes and will fullfill that, that was I can give a good comparison.

    Yeah I was doing 6 Leviathan but didn't really have an "on" feeling as such though I am now more defined and lost a few pounds I'm sure. I am still hovering around 226 but the bf% has dropped i.e. classic recomp.

    I have a new job I am starting on the 10th sept as a Customer Service Rep for a credit card services company. Not bad pay, benefits after 30 days and ten to twenty minutes from my front door, amen! Beats driving for 2 - 4 hrs a day for my last job

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    neo's a rep? congratulations bro, you've earned it. but i too am interested in what you're stats are from this. 6 levi isnt that bad, after tolerance build up i think most people do around 6. neo this is just me, but i would go right into the act- x and stay on the form. lots of guys who have logged ae seem to think activatex/form would be great together. good luck buddy.
    Thanks for the thanks . Please see above note to Easy. I cannot go straight into Activate Ex as I have agreed to be a tester with bloodwork and this would skew the test results for them otherwise I would have fo sho!.

    Have you guys stopped your Transdermal Form and noticed your skin being really really dry for a while, I have that, may not be Form etc maybe just city water with more chemicals.

    Much Love,

    Neoborn

  20. no its the form. vit.e oil about 5-10 minutes after applying or at night will oil u rite up. izza:
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  21. I have stopped my form now and am experiencing the dry skin thing. I'll look into the Vit E oil. Thanks man

    Much Love,

    Neoborn

  22. Neo, you are such a spaz. It looks like you are going to run an epi pulse, activate extreme bloodwork log, and a PAL contest all at the same time. They must have 8 days per week and 14 months per year in Canada for you to be able to do all that

    On a serious note, I have SEVERELY dry skin and haven't experienced any difference with the form or after using form.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Neo, you are such a spaz. It looks like you are going to run an epi pulse, activate extreme bloodwork log, and a PAL contest all at the same time. They must have 8 days per week and 14 months per year in Canada for you to be able to do all that
    Not sure what quote you got that from but maybe I mixed n mashed my thoughts.

    1. 1 month DS Act Ex log

    2. Epidrol Pulse moving into, i.e. just using second bottle Epistane pulse with form baby!

    3. Break

    Much Love,

    Neoborn

  24. Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    Not sure what quote you got that from but maybe I mixed n mashed my thoughts.

    1. 1 month DS Act Ex log

    2. Epidrol Pulse moving into, i.e. just using second bottle Epistane pulse with form baby!

    3. Break

    Much Love,

    Neoborn
    neo, you got to change that avatar, i think you are becoming austin powers man of mystery!!!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  25. Pff! What do you mean becoming.....baby?

    Oh Behave!

    Much Love,

    Neoborn

  26. neo you're a riot.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  27. I just came across this thread and I'm not sure if you are still doing 2g of niacin, but I don't exactly know if that is a good thing to be doing as it might result in a niacin flush and possibly blurred vision.

  28. LOL what's wrong with niacin flush? No blurred vision to report. I have stopped for now as I ran out but getting more soon and will do another month or two run at 2g's before bed and have my Cholesterol checked.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    LOL what's wrong with niacin flush? No blurred vision to report. I have stopped for now as I ran out but getting more soon and will do another month or two run at 2g's before bed and have my Cholesterol checked.
    Good stuff neo. You'll post your chol levels at that time? I'd be interested to see if the niacin helped.

  30. Whats your dosage of Saw palmetto? Ive noticed some swelling of the prostate from Eform. Been using 600mg of SP/day. Just curious what your dosage was at?
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