[Thrall]

7/21/02
*Day 1*

My first day on IGF-2 was yesterday, and I am starting on 9 caps a day (in 3 cap doses). I will have before pics in a later post. Here are my starting stats:

THRALL
Age: 23
Sex: Male
Weight: 185 lbs.
Height: 5' 10"
BF percentage: 10-12% (estimated)
Goals: Functional strength and endurance
Weapon of choice: Combined bodyweight and freeweight style training


My training style is somewhat unique to posters on this board. I have been using it for about a month and a half and have officially decided to ALWAYS include at least some bodyweight movements in my programs. My split looks like this:

Workout A:
Standard Pushup x 8
Pull up x 8
Wrestler's Bridge x 1
Gorilla Hold x 1
Front Bridge x 1
Handstand Hold x 1-3

Workout W:
Deadlift x 3-5
Side Press x 3-5
Jump Rope 15-30 min. (work up to 30 eventually, using 3 minute rounds) OR 5 sets hindu squats

Workout B:
Freehand squat x 5
Leg Raises x 5
Back Extensions x 5
Roll Outs x 3
Wall Walking x 3




Sunday- Workout A
Monday- Workout W
Tuesday-Workout B
Wednsday-Workout A
Thursday-Workout W
Friday- Rest
Saturday-Workout B

Without further ado, here is my first training day for this log:

Hindu squat: 60, 55, 45, 45, 40=245 Next w/o goal: 255

Leg raise: 27, 21, 17, 17, 15=97 Next w/o: 105
(supersetted with)

Back extension: 16, 16, 16, 15, 13=76 Next w/o goal:80

Roll outs: 12, 11, 7=30 Next w/o goal: 35

Wall walk: 2 reps Next w/o goal: 4 reps


As you can tell, Day B is very lower body and core intensive. I am curious to see how many squats I can get in by the end of this log. Once they get REALLY high, I'm going to throw in a weight vest or a one legged (tiger squat) version. I may even eventually graduate to the soviet pistol.

I dosed IGF-2 3 times as recommended, on an empty stomach each time. So far, no noticeable side effects at all.

[TheMyth]

Nice man! looking forward to seeing your results, your going to love them! Nice workout too btw, it's definetly unique!

*Side note- Get some RPM, you'll be glad you did! It works extremely well together with RPM, as they compliment each other! I tried it, and no am a firm believer in it!

[rms80]

Originally Posted by Thrall

7/21/02
*Day 1*

My first day on IGF-2 was yesterday, and I am starting on 9 caps a day (in 3 cap doses). I will have before pics in a later post. Here are my starting stats:

THRALL
Age: 23
Sex: Male
Weight: 185 lbs.
Height: 5' 10"
BF percentage: 10-12% (estimated)
Goals: Functional strength and endurance
Weapon of choice: Combined bodyweight and freeweight style training


My training style is somewhat unique to posters on this board. I have been using it for about a month and a half and have officially decided to ALWAYS include at least some bodyweight movements in my programs. My split looks like this:

Workout A:
Standard Pushup x 8
Pull up x 8
Wrestler's Bridge x 1
Gorilla Hold x 1
Front Bridge x 1
Handstand Hold x 1-3

Workout W:
Deadlift x 3-5
Side Press x 3-5
Jump Rope 15-30 min. (work up to 30 eventually, using 3 minute rounds) OR 5 sets hindu squats

Workout B:
Freehand squat x 5
Leg Raises x 5
Back Extensions x 5
Roll Outs x 3
Wall Walking x 3




Sunday- Workout A
Monday- Workout W
Tuesday-Workout B
Wednsday-Workout A
Thursday-Workout W
Friday- Rest
Saturday-Workout B

Without further ado, here is my first training day for this log:

Hindu squat: 60, 55, 45, 45, 40=245 Next w/o goal: 255

Leg raise: 27, 21, 17, 17, 15=97 Next w/o: 105
(supersetted with)

Back extension: 16, 16, 16, 15, 13=76 Next w/o goal:80

Roll outs: 12, 11, 7=30 Next w/o goal: 35

Wall walk: 2 reps Next w/o goal: 4 reps


As you can tell, Day B is very lower body and core intensive. I am curious to see how many squats I can get in by the end of this log. Once they get REALLY high, I'm going to throw in a weight vest or a one legged (tiger squat) version. I may even eventually graduate to the soviet pistol.

I dosed IGF-2 3 times as recommended, on an empty stomach each time. So far, no noticeable side effects at all.

It usually takes about 7 days to kick in.....

[Thrall]

Originally Posted by rms80

It usually takes about 7 days to kick in.....

Yes, I'm sorry, I know that. Really I mean to report that there were no NEGATIVE side effects from me actually taking the product (like an allergic reaction or something).

7/22/07
*Day 2*

This was definitely an off workout, but that is mainly because I changed it and attempted to do pull ups LAST. Big friggin' mistake. I think now I will actually do them first, as they have proven to be one of my most stubborn movements.

Push up: 31, 28, 21, 21, 21, 21, 17, 18=178 Next w/o: 185

Wrestler's Bridge: 1:00 Next w/o: 1:50

Front Bridge: 1:50 Next w/o: 2:00

Gorilla Hold: 1:01 Next w/o: 1:05

Pull ups: 11, 10, 10, 6, 5=42 (very tired) Next w/o: 70



As you can see, I didn't do handstand holds this time, and I cut pullups short. This is one of the worst workouts I've had yet on this bodyweight program, but it was mainly due to my poor choice of movement placement. I am going to go back to supersetting pullups and push ups, but I will do pull ups as the first movement of the super set and see if that helps.


7/23/07
*Day 3*

A simple weight day, but I was on a limited time schedule so I had to skip the extra cardio.

Dead Lift= 330 x 5, 300 x 5, 265 x 5, 265 x 5

Side Press=77 x 3, 70 x 5, 62 x 5, 62 x 5


I actually got the 77 five times with my right arm, but my form was poor when I did my left I think. I WILL get it next time, I have no doubt of that.

I have been faithfully taking the product three times a day as directed. In regards to stacking it with RPM...

I would love to do that, but I don't think Applied Nutriceuticals wants me to use anything with the IGF-2 right now. Some testers may stack stuff later on, but right now I don't think I'm supposed to. I do love RPM though.

Alright, I will be back to post my lower body bodyweight workout shortly...

[Thrall]

7/24/07
*Day 4*
Rest day, came home and crashed after work...

7/25/07
*Day 5*
Upper body day. I am reducing the pullup/pushup supersets to 5 sets and we will see if they increase next workout. This workout wasn't bad, but if this split continues to be too complicated for me, I may go back to a simpler full body routine. Again, I am still experimenting with this training style, so have patience with my at times clumsy efforts.

Pullup: 11, 11, 11, 10, 7= 50 Next w/o: 55
(supersetted with)

Pushup: 31, 30, 22, 17, 17=117 Next w/o: 125

Wrestler's Bridge: 1:51 Next w/o: 155

Front Bridge: 1:34 Next w/o: 1:40

Gorilla Hold: 1:09 Next w/o: 115

Handstand Holds: 0:48, 0:30 Next w/o: 0:50


Again, still some nice increases. I think I may switch to a harder pushup variation soon, I don't like the high reps as much on pushups as I do the hindu squats.

Alright, weight training today. I will try to post my results tonight if I get the opportunity.

Yesterday, I actually weighed 183, but physical poundage does fluctuate as you all well know. Especially on the sh*tty scale we have at my gym.

I will get the photos up as soon as I can get my ditzy girlfriend to remember to bring her digital camera.

[Lanbane]

Looking good so far Thrall! Can you help me figure out what a side press and gorilla hold are? If it's obvious, apologies for being slow here....

[rms80]

Originally Posted by Thrall

7/24/07
*Day 4*
Rest day, came home and crashed after work...

7/25/07
*Day 5*
Upper body day. I am reducing the pullup/pushup supersets to 5 sets and we will see if they increase next workout. This workout wasn't bad, but if this split continues to be too complicated for me, I may go back to a simpler full body routine. Again, I am still experimenting with this training style, so have patience with my at times clumsy efforts.

Pullup: 11, 11, 11, 10, 7= 50 Next w/o: 55
(supersetted with)

Pushup: 31, 30, 22, 17, 17=117 Next w/o: 125

Wrestler's Bridge: 1:51 Next w/o: 155

Front Bridge: 1:34 Next w/o: 1:40

Gorilla Hold: 1:09 Next w/o: 115

Handstand Holds: 0:48, 0:30 Next w/o: 0:50


Again, still some nice increases. I think I may switch to a harder pushup variation soon, I don't like the high reps as much on pushups as I do the hindu squats.

Alright, weight training today. I will try to post my results tonight if I get the opportunity.

Yesterday, I actually weighed 183, but physical poundage does fluctuate as you all well know. Especially on the sh*tty scale we have at my gym.

I will get the photos up as soon as I can get my ditzy girlfriend to remember to bring her digital camera.

Those are some crazy workouts- kinda similar to some of the stuff we do...

[Thrall]

Side Press: A variation of the old strongman lift known as the bent press. A weighted barbell is stood end on end, then hoisted to the shoulder and held parallel to the ground. The bent press involves lowering the body first to extend the arm, then standing up (usually involves heavy weight). The side press involves simply using the whole body to press the weight overhead. It is a lot harder than it sounds.

Gorilla Hold: I believe they do this in dogcrapp training as well, though they may call it something else. It is basically hanging from a pullup bar as long as possible. Very difficult to do after doing pullups first!


7/26/07
*Day 6*

I admit that I started to work out, but realized that I was way too tired. I actually fell asleep several times at work today (while driving-- not good). I need to rest, I have to admit it. Beddy byes for me (hopefully). I actually just designed a capsule on Capsule Creation for rest. It is a blend of GABA, L-Theanine, Valerian Root, and Naringin (to enhance the rest of the ingredients). It will probably suck, but it is so cheap to do and so fun, I thought I'd try it.

[whitedevil74]

Looking forward to your results. I am almost done with my log for MST then I am having some bloodwork done the begining of August, then on to my IGF log. Sorry to invade your log but if I start my IGF about 4 days before my bloodwork would it effect my blood levels. I am trying to get a good baseline reading, but do not want to wait too long before I start this log. My doctor's appointment is scehduled for Augsut 8th.

[Thrall]

Hmmm...I'm curious as the the answer to that as well. Anyone?

[Lanbane]

I am not sure how IGF-2 would affect the test after only 4 days use.... but if you don't mind, go ahead and wait til right after the test to start the log. It'll be nice to have a true baseline reading.

[TheMyth]

Man, those workouts look insane, I dont know if I would be able to hang with them! Is this your first time doing them?

[rms80]

Originally Posted by whitedevil74

Looking forward to your results. I am almost done with my log for MST then I am having some bloodwork done the begining of August, then on to my IGF log. Sorry to invade your log but if I start my IGF about 4 days before my bloodwork would it effect my blood levels. I am trying to get a good baseline reading, but do not want to wait too long before I start this log. My doctor's appointment is scehduled for Augsut 8th.

It may raise Free test a little, and your IGF levels may be slightly altered and you may have a little lower SHBG, but 4 days on IGF-2 probably won't alter these parameters too significantly- but 10-12 days down the road- that could be a different story

[Thrall]

Here are some photos

[Thrall]

7/27/07
*Day 7*
Rest

7/28/07
*Day 8*

Going back to bodyweight day, weight day, rest, repeat schedule. Keep it simple, it was better that way.

The workout today:


Pull ups: 12, 12, 9, 9, 8=50 Next w/o: still 55
(supersetted with)

One Legged push up: 26, 20, 16, 17, 15=94 Next w/o: 105

Hindu squats: 45, 35, 30, 30, 25=165 Next w/o: 245 (today was kind of a light day for these, I didn't push it as hard as I usually could)

Back extension: 17, 16, 16, 8, 8=65 Next w/o: still 80
(this was not very good either)

Gorilla Hold: 1:06 (not bad) Next w/o: still 1:15

Leg Raise: 19, 12, 15=46 Next w/o: 50

Roll outs: 12, 8, 5=25 Next w/o: 30



I had to skip the two neck bridges today because the gym closes at 4. Other than that, I would say I have some catching up to do next w/o. I hope you guys dig the photos I posted (they were taken today).

[Thrall]

Originally Posted by TheMyth

Man, those workouts look insane, I dont know if I would be able to hang with them! Is this your first time doing them?

Yeah, I just started these exercises a few weeks ago. Progress had been up and down because I switched my split, as I said above I think the simpler full body workout was better for me.

[Outside Backer]

gorilla holds aka extreme stretching for back

when I trained DC that was a big thing, stretching, yes hanging from a bar with a wide grip does take a toll, do it with a db strapped to your waste is that much harder.

i love the unique ness to your lifts, when I land in korea this week and really get training down i too will begin to incorporate more body weight type movements

i lift here on base with a guy that can do one legged squats til the cows come home, he is much smaller then me and I squat about 100lbs more hten hima nd I can do 1 1legged squat lol

[Fabulous One]

Thrall,
Enjoy the log. Excellent results. I decided to take a month to a month and a half off all exercise just to sort of heal up and recover physically and mentally. The heavy weight training has really taken a toll on my shoulders and other joints. So, your log and Emilio's really are interesting to me cause my training is going to be 2 days per week lifting and the rest of it its going to be weight vest walking, sled dragging, tire flipping, yoga and body weight work. I also have the Dinosaur Bodyweight and a few more good ones. Have you ever read any of Ross Enamaits stuff?

[Thrall]

Originally Posted by Fabulous One

Thrall,
Enjoy the log. Excellent results. I decided to take a month to a month and a half off all exercise just to sort of heal up and recover physically and mentally. The heavy weight training has really taken a toll on my shoulders and other joints. So, your log and Emilio's really are interesting to me cause my training is going to be 2 days per week lifting and the rest of it its going to be weight vest walking, sled dragging, tire flipping, yoga and body weight work. I also have the Dinosaur Bodyweight and a few more good ones. Have you ever read any of Ross Enamaits stuff?

Well, I looked him up and watched the videos on his site. I would love to train like that, but I don't live in my own place, just in a house where I rent a room. I don't have anywhere I could put that equipment. That seems like the IDEAL way to train to me, though. That stuff will turn you into a monster. It makes me want to throw some more jump rope into the mix, though!

[TheMyth]

Originally Posted by Fabulous One

Thrall,
Enjoy the log. Excellent results. I decided to take a month to a month and a half off all exercise just to sort of heal up and recover physically and mentally. The heavy weight training has really taken a toll on my shoulders and other joints. So, your log and Emilio's really are interesting to me cause my training is going to be 2 days per week lifting and the rest of it its going to be weight vest walking, sled dragging, tire flipping, yoga and body weight work. I also have the Dinosaur Bodyweight and a few more good ones. Have you ever read any of Ross Enamaits stuff?

Man, taking a month off sounds great! I just think I would get fat fat fat, and lose all my muscle. But man, that sounds like a great idea.

[Outside Backer]

hell id love to take a month off

but id lose about 30lbs all muscle shrink up and be as strong as a 12 yr old girl lol

yes i over exaggerate but that is what id feel like lik

[Thrall]

Yeah, I don't know how the really extreme HIT guys do it (one workout a week). I tried it and HATED it. I took a month off in the winter and just got smaller.

[Fabulous One]

I have just got a bit fatter. I cut my food intake back alot. Been to the chiropractor several times, doing lots of stretching and yoga poses and I am feeling much better. I'll be starting back around the 13th of August I think? I'll be gone on work related trips and don't know how my schedule will look so I am going to have a good month and a half of rest. I needed it and especially my joints.

[Thrall]

Time off is a good idea sometimes, no doubt. Thanks for getting me to look Ross Enamait up, by the way. I plan to order one of his books soon, his training style is insane. I need to at least get it, even if I can't utilize all of it. That kind of physical output is phenomenal.

[TheMyth]

So how you doing Thrall?

[Thrall]

7/29/07
*Day 9*

Rest.

7/30/07
*Day 10*

Bodyweight day. Went well, here it is:

Pullup: 13, 12, 10, 9, 9=53 Next: 55
(supersetted with)

One legged push up: 30, 22, 18, 18, 14=102 Next: 105

Hindu Squat: 55, 50, 45, 40, 37=227 Next: 245

Back extension: 30, 17, 17, 8, 8=80 Next: 85

Gorilla Hold: 1:10 Next: 1:15

Leg Raise: 22, 15, 16=53 Next: 60

Roll outs: 13, 8, 5= 26 Next: 30

Wrestler's Bridge: 1:45 Next: 1:50

Front Bridge: 1:15 Next: 1:25



7/31/07
*Day 11*

Weights:

Dead lift: 335 x 5, 305 x 5, 270 x 5 Next: 340

Side Press: 77 x 5, 70 x 5, 60 x 5 Next: 80



8/1/07
*Day 12*


Rest


Will post today's workout later...sorry about the delayed posting fellas.

[TheMyth]

Hey no worries man. How you been feeling?

[Thrall]

Funny you should ask, my girlfriend just dumped me Monday. Nonetheless, training is still on course, and the IGF-2 seems to be working. I haven't really weighed myself lately, but I don't expect to gain mass on this program.

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by Thrall

Funny you should ask, my girlfriend just dumped me Monday. Nonetheless, training is still on course, and the IGF-2 seems to be working. I haven't really weighed myself lately, but I don't expect to gain mass on this program.

Sorry to hear about that Thrall....... you know what to do though: Turn those emotions around and use them for good..... channel that energy into your workouts. I remember when I was training for my first show I had some female issues, I basically meditated while stretching for warmups, then channeled all my anger into the lifts. Extra reps, higher weights, a few choice cuss words thrown in here and there...... best workouts ever. Hang in there bro.

Sidenote: While you may not gain mass (which is halfway expected with your current workout) look for the benefits of IGF-2 to manifest themselves in the form of better energy throughout the day, more alertness even when not stimmed up, better sleep, vivid dreams, a little better endurance, increased strength and possibly an increase in mind-muscle link

[whitedevil74]

Originally Posted by Lanbane

Sorry to hear about that Thrall....... you know what to do though: Turn those emotions around and use them for good..... channel that energy into your workouts. I remember when I was training for my first show I had some female issues, I basically meditated while stretching for warmups, then channeled all my anger into the lifts. Extra reps, higher weights, a few choice cuss words thrown in here and there...... best workouts ever. Hang in there bro.

Sidenote: While you may not gain mass (which is halfway expected with your current workout) look for the benefits of IGF-2 to manifest themselves in the form of better energy throughout the day, more alertness even when not stimmed up, better sleep, vivid dreams, a little better endurance, increased strength and possibly an increase in mind-muscle link

Or you can always just kill prostitutes.