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    Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Okay 4 Dermacrine pumps this morning and another 20mg Epidrol pre-wo and 10mg pwo.

    Did legs tonight:

    ATG Squats 10 reps 185/195/205/215
    Leg press rocker swingy machine (lub this machine for quads)

    Then I did single leg step ups holding DB's. I ran into a problem and I sorta want to see if this happens to anyone else. Durng my left leg I noticed a small pinch basically right above my tailbone. Sorta shruged it off and started my other leg and BAM!, first step up I had an extremely sharp pain in my tailbone area. Anyone ever get this?

    It only seems to happen when I am doing one leg lifts (lunges and variations). Its fine now but weird.

    Finished off with seated Ham curls 4x10
    Seated leg ext 4x10
    Seated calf raise 4x10
    god i hate leg day.....atg squats ?? whats that?
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    Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    god i hate leg day.....atg squats ?? whats that?
    Ass To Grass. I use to post my training log on another forum that had a lot of powerlifters and strongman people. Sorta just got use to calling them ATG squats. :squat:

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    Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Ass To Grass. I use to post my training log on another forum that had a lot of powerlifters and strongman people. Sorta just got use to calling them ATG squats. :squat:
    be careful mentioning the word ass in front of some people on this board...lol....they tend to get excited..hahaha
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    Weight this morning = 210.5lbs


    Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    be careful mentioning the word ass in front of some people on this board...lol....they tend to get excited..hahaha
    Thankfully gix and nyc havent seen the log yet....

    Had some good workout tonight. Just did arms but had the ON feelling. My friggin libido is sky high too, which I think is the Dermacrine. Started applying one pump of Derm to the balls for better absorbtion. I also upped the Epidrol dosage to 40mg.

    Weight is also steadily going up. I feel full all the time. I am going to get to 220+ before the end of this cycle/pct. I know I can do that, I may put on fat but at this point I dont give a ****.

    I am considering extending the cycle longer than 4 weeks but I am not sure yet. Sides are basically non-existant at this point. This seems like such a mild compound but I have nothing to base that against. I think it is stacking really well with the Dermacrine. I feel more focused and "on my toes" after applying the Derm in the morning. Very EXCITE!!!! (borat voice)

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    Nice results so far. I'll be keeping an eye on this one!

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    travis how long does a bottle of the dermacrine last? I tried to find it on their web site but couldn't

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    Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    travis how long does a bottle of the dermacrine last? I tried to find it on their web site but couldn't
    4 pumps/day will last 30 days. Some guys have been putting it on their balls and say that it will last longer b/c of the higher absorption rate. I believe that to probably be somewhat true.

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    Not even going to post todays workout. Friggin woke up last night with a terrible ear ache. Couldnt sleep all night so I was tired all day and didnt have a great gym session. Cut it short, need a nap.

    Good thing is that weight is still at 210.5

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    Unhappy Weight this morning = 212lbs!


    Wow got a good nights sleep and weight was up again this morning. Still felt pretty rundown during the workout tonight. Ear ache has been giving me headaches and ****. Much better today then yesterday though.



    Dosing right now is 4 pumps Dermacrine every morning. 10mg Epidrol in the morning, 20mg pre-workout, and 10mg's pwo.

    Legs tonight:

    Did the squat rocker thingy again
    5x8 worked up to 8 rep max on the thing
    Wide stance squats
    4x8 135/145/165/185
    Leg Extention
    4x10
    Ham Curls
    4x8 worked up to 190
    Calf Raise
    2x10 2 plates

    Felt pretty ****ty all workout. Need some more food and sleep. izza:

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    Unhappy Weight this morning = 212.5lbs


    Woke up today and felt really tired all day at work again. Not sure what it is but I feel a little run down. Just glad the weekend is here, Im gonna get some hella sleep in.

    Dosing was the same as the previous day. Did chest and tri's tonight:

    Pec Deck 4x15
    Flat BB Bench 4x6/8/8/10
    Incline DB Fly 4x10
    Decline BB Bench 4x10
    Flat DB Fly 4x10

    Rope pulldown 4x10
    Single arm overhead ext 4x10
    Tri Ext Overhead Machine 4x10

    Joints felt raw....libido is ****in sky high. Thinking about adding AP here in the next few days to overlap it into PCT.

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    Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Wow got a good nights sleep and weight was up again this morning. Still felt pretty rundown during the workout tonight. Ear ache has been giving me headaches and ****. Much better today then yesterday though.



    Dosing right now is 4 pumps Dermacrine every morning. 10mg Epidrol in the morning, 20mg pre-workout, and 10mg's pwo.

    Legs tonight:

    Did the squat rocker thingy again
    5x8 worked up to 8 rep max on the thing
    Wide stance squats
    4x8 135/145/165/185
    Leg Extention
    4x10
    Ham Curls
    4x8 worked up to 190
    Calf Raise
    2x10 2 plates

    Felt pretty ****ty all workout. Need some more food and sleep. izza:
    Are you still pulsing?

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    Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    Are you still pulsing?
    Right now sorta. The first week I took 30mg Mon-Fri, then off Sat & Sun. This week I have taken 40mg's everyday and I may just keep taking the same dosage everyday from here on out. I am only going 4 maybe 5 weeks. Need to decide though...

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    Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Some guys have been putting it on their balls and say that it will last longer b/c of the higher absorption rate. I believe that to probably be somewhat true.
    Yeah, odd but true.

    The scrotum actually gets about 3x more absorption compared to any other skin on the body. It’s a good way to get a nice little “boost” from what I hear.

    BTW, the “run down” feeling may be a result of you experiencing semi-insomnia from the epidrol. You may want to consider running just in the early parts of the day if you arnt doing that already.

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    Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Right now sorta. The first week I took 30mg Mon-Fri, then off Sat & Sun. This week I have taken 40mg's everyday and I may just keep taking the same dosage everyday from here on out. I am only going 4 maybe 5 weeks. Need to decide though...
    Just wondering because i saw you took some in the morning too

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    Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    Just wondering because i saw you took some in the morning too
    Yeah, I am just running this everyday though out the cycle.

    BTW, yesterday weight was 213.5 then this morning it was 212.5 so still keeping the cals high.

    Yesterday I worked Back and a lil bi's:

    Rack pulls 5x6 started at 225 and worked up to 315 with the pin set about 2 inches below the knees.
    Cable wide grip row 4x8 stack
    Lat pulldown 4x8
    Single arm cable row 4x8

    Pull ups superset w/ incline seated DB curls 3 sets

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    Weight this morning = 212.5lbs


    So I got a lot of sleep this weekend and I had a great workout today. Still using 4 pumps of Dermacrine every morning. I upped my epidrol dosage to 50mg's as of today. 20mg's in the morning, 10mg's at lunch, 10mg's pre-wo, and 10mg's pwo.

    Just did arms today, nothing special but the weights were up all around and I felt very aggressive. Like so agressive that I found myself talking **** to the weights as I lifted them....

    BTW, the Dermacrine seems to be helping libido a lot. Its as strong as ever and by this time my last havoc/epidrol cycle I didnt have a very good one.

    I have noticed some shedding but nothing big so I picked up some 1% nizoral today. I'll begin using that tomorrow.

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    Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    So I got a lot of sleep this weekend and I had a great workout today. Still using 4 pumps of Dermacrine every morning. I upped my epidrol dosage to 50mg's as of today. 20mg's in the morning, 10mg's at lunch, 10mg's pre-wo, and 10mg's pwo.

    Just did arms today, nothing special but the weights were up all around and I felt very aggressive. Like so agressive that I found myself talking **** to the weights as I lifted them....

    BTW, the Dermacrine seems to be helping libido a lot. Its as strong as ever and by this time my last havoc/epidrol cycle I didnt have a very good one.

    I have noticed some shedding but nothing big so I picked up some 1% nizoral today. I'll begin using that tomorrow.
    To confirm, your last Epi cycle was only Havoc correct?....if so, how would you compare the Epidrol to Havoc at this point?...better or the same?

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    Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    To confirm, your last Epi cycle was only Havoc correct?....if so, how would you compare the Epidrol to Havoc at this point?...better or the same?
    I would have to say at this point the Epidrol is better than Havoc.
    Libido is higher, much higher. Workouts are very aggressive. I did get sick for a few days on my Havoc cycle so that may have slowed things. So far my weight is going up much fast with the Epidrol+Dermacrine combo.

    Then again I am using the Dermacrine for all the negatives I experienced using Havoc. So I have to give the Derm some mad props so far. Oh and I should have mentioned the weight gain doesnt appear to be much fat!

    I forgot to weight myself this morning, but still had a great workout tonight. Did shoulders:

    DB Mil Press 5x8 worked up to 65's
    underhand front raises 4x10
    One arm side raises 4x10
    Smith machine press 3x10

    Then did BB shrugs 4x10 finished with 385lbs

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    Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    I would have to say at this point the Epidrol is better than Havoc.
    Libido is higher, much higher. Workouts are very aggressive. I did get sick for a few days on my Havoc cycle so that may have slowed things. So far my weight is going up much fast with the Epidrol+Dermacrine combo.

    Then again I am using the Dermacrine for all the negatives I experienced using Havoc. So I have to give the Derm some mad props so far. Oh and I should have mentioned the weight gain doesnt appear to be much fat!

    I forgot to weight myself this morning, but still had a great workout tonight. Did shoulders:

    DB Mil Press 5x8 worked up to 65's
    underhand front raises 4x10
    One arm side raises 4x10
    Smith machine press 3x10

    Then did BB shrugs 4x10 finished with 385lbs
    Good stuff man! Keep it up!

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    Not lifting today. Must have tweaked something in the gym yesterday b/c I am not able to turn my head to the left quickly and my left upper trap and neck are really sore. Doesnt feel to serious but figured a day off and a bunch of cissus was necessary.

    Oh, and btw weight this morning was 214lbs!!

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