rothyman's epistane/dhea log
- 07-15-2007, 02:16 PM
rothyman's epistane/dhea log
First of all, I'm 21. I've never used a PH in my life, been clean as a whistle. I've been educating myself around the forums (just signed up for this one) for 3 or 4 years now. I'm 5'8 175lbs. I've recently just switched to a 5x5 routine to increase my major lifts (so far so good
Goals - To gain lean mass and vascularity, preferably no bloat. A reachable goal I would think would be 6 - 8lbs
Diet - Just above maintenance, all clean proteins (chicken, fish) and not too many carbs.
Week 1 – 20mg (10mg first day)
Week 2 – 30 mg
Week 3 – 30mg
Week 4 – 30/40mg depending on side-effects
Week 1 - 100mg
Week 2 - 200mg
Week 3 - 200mg
Week 4 - 200mg
Cycle Support (1 week pre-load and during cycle)
Fish Oil 3g/day
post cycle therapy
First 4 Days – 120mg
Week 2 – 90mg
Week 3 – 60mg
Week 4 – 30mg (If needed)
SNS Reduce XT
Week 1 – 3 Caps
Week 2 – 3 Caps
Week 3 – 3 Caps
Week 4 – 3 Caps
- 07-15-2007, 02:24 PM
Starting Weight - 173
Current Weight - 173
Today was a sub-par day in the gym. Going in I had major pumps and a great feeling about my workout. Soon enough, muscle soreness set in and while I still had pumps, I didn't feel so ontop of the world anymore. This was strange considering I rested a lot this week, working out only 2 days of the 5. Anyways -
Incline DB Press
Dec DB Flies
Dips (till failure)
Reverse Grip Pushdowns
So far, not bad. Took 20mg the first day and I felt minor tightness in my back,which taurine relieved.
I'm thinking about just ramping up to 30/30/30/40 for the rest of my cycle since I'm seeing some good results through that on the forums. Only thing I'm hesitant about is shutdown. I feel the more I take over 4 weeks, the worse shutdown will be. Anyone want to chime in on whether it's ok to ramp up to 30?
07-15-2007, 02:52 PM
07-15-2007, 03:16 PM
07-15-2007, 04:27 PM
07-15-2007, 04:40 PM
07-16-2007, 11:37 AM
07-16-2007, 12:07 PM
07-16-2007, 12:41 PM
07-16-2007, 12:45 PM
07-16-2007, 01:29 PM
Id go for more than 4 weeks, thats really short. Epistane is supposed to be pretty mild.
I did superdrol for 3 for my first cycle and still regret it. I think you have to be on it for awhile to guarantee that you keep alot of the gains when you go off.
07-16-2007, 01:30 PM
07-16-2007, 01:33 PM
As for Superdrol, I might sound like a *****, but I'd never do a cycle of that stuff. I've heard it's so bad for you, why not just do regular gear?
07-16-2007, 04:21 PM
Current Wt : 172lbs
10mg Before Workout
Overall good day @ the gym. Set some PRs. Had some minor back pumps during my workout. Also, I noticed my heart was beating a little faster earlier this morning after my 10mg.
Bent Over BB Rows
07-17-2007, 04:49 AM
07-17-2007, 11:28 AM
07-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Weight - 172
Not much to report. I've been taking 20mg for 4 days now and I think I'm going to up the dose to 30 tomorrow. I don't want to rush the cycle, but I do feel that boosting it to 30 would be alright. I've seen guys running 30/30/40/40 cycles all over the forums.
Side Effects - Minor Back Pumps
07-17-2007, 08:11 PM
Yeah bumping to 30mg would be fine. I will say that 20mg takes a little longer to kick in but 20 or 30 give it a week and you'll be rollin . Epistane is very sensitive to calories, so continue to up your cals until you get the desired weight gain. It does a pretty good job of keeping you lean!
07-18-2007, 01:33 PM
Weight : 173
Dosage : 20mg Pre-Workout (11am), 10mg Dinner (6PM)
DHEA - 100mg 11am, 100mg 6pm
Today was the first day I noticed a strength increase. I decided to take 30mg yesterday, popping a 10mg before I went to bed. I got up today feeling great, and took 20mg before I went to the gym. I felt a decent pump and definitely a small strength increase at the gym.
DB Shoulder Press
DB Frontal Raises
Bent Over Rows (Hands over grip)
Military Presses (Behind Neck)
Alt. Inc. DB Curls
Sides - None except for minor acne, getting a little bit worse.
07-20-2007, 06:40 AM
07-20-2007, 09:49 AM
07-22-2007, 02:49 AM
Weight - 175 (+2)
Dosage : 10mg 11AM, 10mg 5PM, 10mg 11PM
DHEA - 100mg 11am, 100mg 5pm
Update - I took 2 days off of Epi. I had an important event that inevitably involved drinking, therefore I decided to play it safe. Anyways I didn't lift today but I took 30mg spread out through the day. After a week, I'm very satisfied with my results. I've yet to have a negative side effect, with the exception of some back pain when drinking last night (no more alcohol for me on cycle). I'm up 2lbs and I feel a little stronger and leaner. Nothing spectacular, but it's there.
Tomorrow is chest, so hopefully I'll see some gains unless the past few days wore me out.
Sides - Some back pumps/pain when drinking lastnight. I'm not touching alcohol again till the cycle is over.
07-22-2007, 02:51 AM
07-23-2007, 09:37 PM
So I'm a week into my cycle and I'm wondering when things are going to start kicking in. I'm still around 173/175 fluctuating. As far as vascularity goes, I look about the same. I've seen little/no strength increase even when going 20mg pre-workout. Yesterday I was hoping to have a diesel CHEST day @ the gym, but it turned out to be one of my worst workouts in awhile.
My caloric intake is around 2800 and I'm splitting 40/40/20. I'm drinking plenty of water everyday. I'm going to up my protein intake a bit to see if things change.
Also, I'm changing my cycle as long as sides aren't bad.
Wk1 - 20mg
Wk2 - 30mg
Wk3 - 40mg
Wk4 - 40mg/50mg
Could the 200mg of DHEA/day have a negative effect with the epistane? If anyone has any pointers let me know. Then again, I could be expecting too much from a mild steroid, but I have seen no improvement in the gym thus far.
Oh yeah, and I think the joint dryness is kicking in. My back/elbows/shoulders have been sore all the time the past 3 or 4 days. When I was benching yesterday, I had to stop on my last set due to soreness near my armpits/shoulders/arms. It really pissed me off because my chest wasn't even worn down, but my shoulders and arms were! This makes NO SENSE at all, being that my chest has always been a weaker part of me and my arms have always been gigantic in comparison. I'm thinking about buying some cissus tomorrow if they sell them at local nutrition stores
07-23-2007, 09:48 PM
nice log so far, subb'd. also, nice lifts I must say. You can push up 140 lb dumbbells in the shoulder press? Thats good **** bro, very impressive. you gonna post any pics?
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