[IroNwIlL2006]

I just did my first shot and decided to post up a little log to chart my progress. This is my first test cycle and it has been on hold for two months due to problems obtaining hcg from two seperate sources to two seperate addresses (in Canada). I've decided that I'll start anyway without it and just hope it eventually arrives. Original plan was for 14 weeks of test-e injections with winZtrol taken for the last 4 weeks (12-16), and I will revert back to this plan should the hcg arrive. My current (simple) cycle will be run as follows:

weeks 1 & 2: aburaihan test-e frontload 1000mg
weeks 3 to 10: aburaihan test-e 500mg
weeks 1 to 12: arimidex .25mg ed

*PCT starting week 13: toremifene citrate 120mg first 4 days, 90mg 7 days, 60mg 10days

*Could use some advice on this. What I have down is one bottles worth of the toremifene, but I could get another one.

Just back in the gym after a two week break (oral surgery and mild infection)

Current stats are 23 yrs old
5'11.5 215.5lbs
bf at 17%

Just finished bill starr's intermediate 5x5 program and will be moving to a split for the cycle. It will be as follows:

Day1 Legs
Heavy Squats
Leg Extensions
Leg Press
Stiff-legged deads
calf raises
Light Squats

Day2 Chest and Shoulders
Flat bench barbell
Seated dumbell press (military)
Incline dumbell press
Seated cable flys Incline/decline (superset)
Upright rows
Bent over rear delt flys
Weighted dips

Day3 Rest

Day4 Back
Deadlifts Heavy
Bent over rows (overhand)
Weighted chins
Bent over rows (underhand)
Light Deadlifts

Day5 Arms (first time)
Barbell curls
skullcrushers
Superset 1-
cable pushdowns overhand
cable curls
Superset 2-
cable pushdowns underhand
hammer curls
Superset 3-
Closegrip bench press
barbell curls (negatives)

All workouts will be kept at 65mins or less

Cals. will be between 4500 and 5000 throughout cycle... at 3600 now, will slowly increase. I also had bad bp problems with superdrol so i'll be keeping an eye on it and will run one serving of AI's Cycle support throughout the cycle. I hope all goes well and will do my best to keep this log updated. Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions.

[TripDog]

sweet....is the armidex liquid,or tabs..?....I'll be following.! and what is winZstol...is that meaning the prohormone or the real winny(methylated)

[TripDog]

why no oral to kick first few weeks...???

[Travis]

Originally Posted by TripDog

why no oral to kick first few weeks...???

I know Skye mentioned its comin to get test flu by frontloading with heavy doses like this stack is designed. Nonetheless, good luck (subscribed).

[TripDog]

Originally Posted by Travis

I know Skye mentioned its comin to get test flu by frontloading with heavy doses like this stack is designed. Nonetheless, good luck (subscribed).

wtf are you talking about???? heavy doses???

[Travis]

Originally Posted by TripDog

wtf are you talking about???? heavy doses???

Sorry, not heavy doses. Meant using more test at the beginning to kick start vs using an oral like you mentioned. It's discussed for a little bit in this thread:

8 Weeks vs 12 Weeks

[mike3107]

Don't mean to be a **** but why isn't this in the steroid section?

[TripDog]

Originally Posted by Travis

Sorry, not heavy doses. Meant using more test at the beginning to kick start vs using an oral like you mentioned. It's discussed for a little bit in this thread:

8 Weeks vs 12 Weeks

hmmm i still would add some type of oral....a gram of test for 2 weeks isn't gonna do sh*t....the reason 4 orals is to help keep the dose down...so you can run the first 4 weeks on a oral,and a low dose test,then at that point the test will start to take effect...trust test takes quite a while to be noticed....

[TripDog]

Originally Posted by mike3107

Don't mean to be a **** but why isn't this in the steroid section?

i just saw it in new posts??

[Travis]

Originally Posted by TripDog

hmmm i still would add some type of oral....a gram of test for 2 weeks isn't gonna do sh*t....the reason 4 orals is to help keep the dose down...so you can run the first 4 weeks on a oral,and a low dose test,then at that point the test will start to take effect...trust test takes quite a while to be noticed....

Yep, Im actually agreeing with you. I just suck at wording things

[IroNwIlL2006]

Thanks for following guys. The arimidex is in a liquid solution. The winztrol is just a prostanozol clone and its pretty mild. As far as the frontloading is concerned i'm aware that it won't make much of a difference but i'm hoping it kicks in a week or two earlier. I'm also sitting on some pherabol but I'm going to save it. I really worry about bp problems so i'm sticking with a conservative cycle.

Anyone have an opinion on the toremifene pct???

[IroNwIlL2006]

These past few days I have noticed some chest tightness and some discomfort on my left side (inner pec area) when taking a deep breath. Nothing too bad though just don't know what it is. I guess I'll start worrying if it get's worse. Maybe I just need to get used to it.

So it's the end of week three and theres nothing really to report in terms of gains. I gained my strenth back but unfortunately have put on fat too from upping my cals a bit too quickly.

I'll also post some numbers when I start making some gains.

[IroNwIlL2006]

Feeling pretty good lifts are up about 10 lbs all around. So far this cycle is really mild but i'm liking it. I don't know what that chest pain was all about-- i switched to nolva at 10 mg ed and 3 days later I was fine. Weight is now at about 223 but I hold water untill I take the nolva at night (230 now lol). I'm thinking I'll update this log once a week.

Here are some starting stats (from week two at 219lbs)

Day1 Legs
Heavy Squats 365 x5 atg
Leg Extensions
Leg Press 990 x 8
Stiff-legged deads 245 x 12
calf raises
Light Squats

Day2 Chest and Shoulders
Flat bench barbell 280 x 6
Seated dumbell press (military) 90 x 8
Incline dumbell press 95 x 8
Seated cable flys Incline/decline (superset)
Upright rows 100 x 8
Bent over rear delt flys
Weighted dips 85 x 8

Day3 Rest

Day4 Back
Deadlifts Heavy 395 x 5
Bent over rows (overhand) 215 x 8
Weighted chins bw x 8
Bent over rows (underhand)
Light Deadlifts

Day5 Arms
Barbell curls 155 x5
skullcrushers 95 x 8
Superset 1-
cable pushdowns overhand
cable curls
Superset 2-
cable pushdowns underhand
hammer curls
Superset 3-
Closegrip bench press
barbell curls (negatives)

[IroNwIlL2006]

this week (4)

Day1 Legs
Heavy Squats 375 x 5
Leg Extensions
Leg Press 1040 x 8 (easy)
Stiff-legged deads 245 x 12 (same)
calf raises
Light Squats

Day2 Chest and Shoulders
Flat bench barbell 295 x4
Seated dumbell press (military) 95 x 8
Incline dumbell press 100 x 8
Seated cable flys Incline/decline (superset)
Upright rows 110 x 8
Bent over rear delt flys
Weighted dips bw ( no belt/chain)

Day3 Rest

Day4 Back
Deadlifts Heavy 405 x 4
Bent over rows (overhand) 225 x 8
Weighted chins bw x 7 (I hate chins)
Bent over rows (underhand)
Light Deadlifts


Arms tommorrow...

I actually think the test kicked in week 3 so I've been feeling pretty good -- and I ve got a long time to make some nice gains.

[IroNwIlL2006]

Hmmmm.... sorry log got a little bit tiresome but i'm still around. Strength gains are very slow- apart from that initial jump- but still consistent. As I mentioned bf went up a bit. Currently 235.5 lbs @ 20% bf if anyone's interested.

This cycle is very mild and comfortable.

[Travis]

Still very interested bro, keep us updated.