Beebab's LOG OF: MASS FX/ HX2/ R2 + INCARNATE/ LEVIATHAN & support
- 07-06-2007, 10:18 PM
Beebab's LOG OF: MASS FX/ HX2/ R2 + INCARNATE/ LEVIATHAN & support
I recently joined the AnabolicMinds community and am in awe of all the great progress people have made with different supplement stacks.
As a serious bodybuilder myself, I'd very much like to contribute to this forum by creating a thorough, detailed, hopefully entertaining log of my progress on the supplement stack I am about to undertake.
So far in my weightlifting career I've trained naturally, focusing primarily on nutrition and conventional methods to make gains. I haven't yet done a stack of any serious magnitude, other than low-key supplements found at GNC. I've supplemented with creatine off and on for over a year, did pretty well except my joints are now paying the price for it. I've decided now that it's time to step it up and try something new.
Over the course of the next 8-12 weeks I will be running Anabolic Xtreme's Mass Stack, consisting of Mass FX, Hyperdrol X2 and Retain2.
Alongside these three products I will include:
(1) Incarnate which I will run consistently for the duration of my total cycle...for general muscle endurance, energy and recovery, as well as joint support.
(2) Poseidon for cycle support, energy, muscle recovery
(3) GNC Mega Men Sport Multi-Vitamin for general nutrition
(4) GNC Ultra Strength Fish Oils for omega-3's
(5) GNC Triflex for additional joint support
(1) GNC Wheybolic Extreme 60
(2) Cytogainer Muscle Milk
(3) MHP Probolic
Following the expiration of Mass FX/ HX2 and R2, I will continue running Incarnate alongside Leviathan to hopefully burn any excess fat I gain on this cycle and start cutting up.
Weight: 195 (AM) - 200 PM
Years lifting: 3 (1 beginner, 2 intensely)
Est. BF % ~ 15%
Arms: (R) 16 5/8" ; (L) 16 1/4"
Waist: 34.5 "
Forearms: 13 "
Quad: (R) 23" ; (L) 22.5"
Calf: (R) 16 3/4" ; (L) 16.5"
Neck: 16.5 "
My goals for the end of this stack are increased strength, +5 - 10 lbs, fuller/thicker muscles (arms, chest specifically), better energy/ endurance, better definition. I have some nagging fat on my lower chest and lower back that I'd very much like to get rid of. Also, I'd like to shed an inch off my waist.
Very realistic goals, but unattainable without a heavy duty resistance program and supporting diet.
Throughout the course of this stack, my diet will consist of 4500 - 5000 calories per day. However, I DO NOT want a dirty bulk. I will try my best to make sure that all my nutrients derive from healthy, clean food sources/ supplements.
I will eat every 2-3 hours (probably closer to 2), to try and get 7 full meals a day.
Protein will come from: eggs, milk, chicken, turkey, lean meat, fish, protein powders
Carbs will come from: oatmeal, milk, whole wheat bread, simple carbs pre/post workout, rice, bananas
Fats will come from: eggs, fish oils, olive oil
General macronutrient split (on training days) will be roughly:
P: 350 g.
C: 500+ g.
F: below 100 g.
Non-training days will be high, but somewhat less.
The first few weeks I will follow the prescribed dosing procedure for the Mass FX stack. Since I am running all three products together I do not want to overload. I will see how well my body responds to 4 caps a day and if I feel like an increase would produce for me then I'll possibly up the dose to 5 or 6 caps a day (of mass FX). Hyperdrol... possibly 5 a day.
In any case, timing will be as follows:
For the first week ---
Retain - 1 at wake-up
HD X2 - 1 at wakeup, 1 pre-bed, other 2 spread out equally in the day
FX - 1 at wake up, 1 pre-workout
Week 2, on:
Retain - 1 at wake-up, 1 pre workout, 1 post workout
HD X2 - 1 at wakeup, 1 pre-bed, other 2 spread out equally in the day
FX - 1 at wake up, 2 pre-workout, 1 in the middle of the other 2 doses
Incarnate will be consumed pre and post workout, 4 capsules a serving. Other products as directed.
Multi-vitamin in the AM and again post workout.
The initial stack will last me anywhere between 8 and 12 weeks, depending upon how much I dose of each pill per day. Incarnate will last me about 90 days (taking multiple bottles), and following the Mass FX cycle I will finish 1 bottle of Leviathan. Poseidon will last roughly one month.
I will begin on Mon, following the recommended serving of all three products (mass fx/ hx2/ r2). As of now, I am not as concerned with cutting up as I am gaining as much mass as possible, with as big a diet as possible.
My workouts will vary every couple of weeks, because I prefer to change things up for muscle confusion. I will work out a workout cycle, which will take me through several different types of workout plans, which I will make up along the way. After I complete one cycle, I'll revert back to the beginning and see how much my strength as increased with each new cycle.
I like to workout using HIT principles. So, most of my workouts will incorporate supersets, drop sets, rest-pause, negatives, partial reps, etc. For certain exercises (i.e. bench, squat, shoulder press)... I will pyramid up and down for a time, other times warm up then start high and work down, other times work pure negatives. I'll update this periodically.
My split will be 2 day on, 1 day off. EX... this will change:
Mon: Chest, biceps
Tues: Legs, abs
Wed: Off (possibly cardio)
Thurs: shoulders, traps, triceps
Fri: Back, forearms, abs
That's it for now. I'll report back on Mon with day one.
Thanks in advance to anyone who reads/ subscribes.
- 07-06-2007, 11:04 PM
07-08-2007, 05:55 PM
07-08-2007, 06:06 PM
Nice lookin log ya got here man, I suggest upping the dose on Incarnate from what is listed on the bottle, maybe to 4 caps 2x/day you will notice a HUGE difference in the gym in your latter sets. I know I am.
07-08-2007, 06:13 PM
07-08-2007, 06:17 PM
thanks for responding guys. yea im definitely gonna take you up on that suggestion BlackJack. I've been on Incarnate now for the past week (started for the helluvit haha), and I'm likin it so far. raising the dose to 8 caps a day certainly sounds like it could bring pretty sweet results
07-08-2007, 06:22 PM
eating solid foods again 8/9 times a day is gonna be a challenge tho haha. i just had all four of my wisdom teeth extracted the other day and I'm still in agony. i've practically been living off cytogainer and milk the past copule days, along with eggs and oatmeal. so i can't wait to get started on this...
... and YES, i do have a funny farmer's tan thanks for noticing Pudzian haha. i'm damn proud of it too
07-08-2007, 06:26 PM
07-08-2007, 06:27 PM
07-09-2007, 12:25 PM
started this morning. woke up, downed 1 capsule of each and then had breakfast. obviously nothing will kick in for a couple days, but regardless so the journey has begun
i sat down last night and worked out my mass gaining diet plan while on cycle. my meals will generally adhere to the following, pending minor corrections/ meal substitutions.
Breakfast: (P: 51g/ C: 100g)
-3 whole eggs, 3/4 cup whites
-1.5 cups oatmeal w/ 1 banana
Meal #2: (P: 50g/ C: 66g)
-5 oz. chikcen breast w/ 2 cups rice
Meal #3: (P: 50g/ C: 66g)
-5 oz. chicken breast w/ 2 cups rice
Meal #4: (P: 50g/ C:66g)
-Triple decker turkey sandwich w/ 5 oz roast turkey
Pre-workout: (P: 45g/ C: 100g)
1.5 cups oatmeal mixed w/ 1.5 scoops GNC Wheybolic
Post-workout: (P: 46g/ C: 107.5g)
-4 slices white bread
-1.5 scoops Wheybolic
Pre-bed: (P: 48g/ C: 32g)
-1 cup cottage cheese
-2 cups skim milk
~335 g. P
~580 g. C
Fat? idk, but my diet is clean so not too bad
Dosing procedure will be:
-Wake up: 1 FX/ Hx2/ R2 (~10 AM)
-2 PM: 1 Hx2
-7 PM (pre workout): 1 FX/ Hx2/ R2
-9 PM ish (post workout): 1 Hx2/ R2
I'll report later with workout results
07-09-2007, 12:35 PM
one thing's for sure tho. idk if it's mental or not, but i feel jittery as hell. heart's not racing, but i feel like maybe my bp is spiked a lil.
07-09-2007, 01:07 PM
07-09-2007, 01:17 PM
as for that jittery feeling it's going away now. just beginner's effects i guess. i can't wait til I'm thru the first week and can up the dosages
07-09-2007, 02:49 PM
07-09-2007, 11:08 PM
tonight's workout went pretty well. obviously it's still way too soon to feel any effects... but from a psychological standpoint, I definitely felt pretty good. not the best, but definitely pumped and energized. i took off from lifting the past 4 days due to wisdom teeth surgery, so today was my first day back.
I worked chest pretty thoroughly, along with forearms. It's probably one of my favorite muscle groups, so I generally isolate that from other groups.
My workout was as follows:
flat bar X 20
95 x 20
185 x 12
225 x 7 + 1 assisted (very little help)
265 x 2 + 1 assisted
155 x 12
185 x 7
Dumbell slight incline... triple drop set:
100 x 5 +1
85 x 3
65 x 4
80 x 10, drop down -- 60 x5
Underhand chest flye (idk the exact name for this exercise):
40 lbs x 15, superset w/ pushups to failure
70 lbs x 8, superset w/ cable flye - 70 x 15
Behind the back wrist curl
bar x 15
135 x 15
185 x 10, superset w/ reverse curl 75 lbs x 10
Rope curls... 20 lbs x 3 supersets, drop set to 10 lb - failure
all in all, not a bad workout. i've been on Incarnate now for the past week or so and I'm starting to feel the energy rush from the Beta Alanine. My endurance was slightly up this workout. I upped the dose to 4 pills twice daily, so we'll see how that works out over the course of the week.
I feel pretty good I must say. Tomorrow might be an off day due to a conflict in my schedule, but if that's the case then Wed will be my leg/ ab workout
07-10-2007, 06:18 PM
didn't sleep too well last night..... 4 1/2 hours. but i had to get up very early this morning to go to an event. i never usually sleep too well when I know I have to wake up really early for something. i also didn't get to bed til late so that was another factor, i wouldn't accuse any supplement of causing that insomnia.
since i didn't sleep very well at all last night i'm not going to lift today because i know i'd have a crappy workout. if anything, i might swing by the gym a little later and do some cardio with ab work just so i can say i did something productive today.
i'm very eager to feel the true effects of Mass FX and Hx2. As of this point, I'm considering upping the dose of Mass to 5...6 caps a day and Hx2 to 5 caps a day. Possibly by the end of this week I might dose FX at 4 caps a day.
07-10-2007, 11:15 PM
Leg Workout 7/10
i'm aware that i posted earlier that i wouldnt be lifting today, but as we all know plans are constantly subject to change. my friend convinced me to mozy on over to the gym w him around 8 to work legs, so i said ok.
for feeling so lethargic earlier, i had a really good workout. i got 4 1/2 hours of sleep last night, but despite that I still pulled through...even though by the end I was shaking and ready to collapse. workout was as follows:
Quads, Hams, Hips, Lower Back:
Warm-up leg press:
(close stance) 400 x 15
(close stance) 575 x 15
(close stance) 850 x 10
(wide stance) 400 x 15
135 x 10
*note: didn't like the feel of front squats so I stopped after one set.
225 x 12
135 x 20
(concentrated form, slow) 85 x 8, drop down >> 40 x 4
SLDL (slow motion) superset w/ leg curl:
135 x 15 >> 110 ish x 10, each
185 x 12 >> 110 ish x 7, each
That workout was just enough for me, because by the end I could barely stand haha. Had I gotten more sleep I might have been able to handle more, but I'm pleased.
Incarnate does wonders for endurance and energy I think. I'm currently in my second week and I have to say that I'm quite satisfied, I'm only expecting better results in the near future.
I considered it and I decided that for the duration of this week I'm going to stick with 2 caps of FX daily, 4 caps Hx2 and 3 caps R2. Next week I'll up the dose of FX to 4, Hx2 to 5 and keep R2 at 3. Based on how I feel w that the following week I might even try 5 FX.
Still too soon to judge FX Hx2 and R2 I think. But I feel pretty good and I am somewhat irritable. Nothing too extreme though.
07-10-2007, 11:20 PM
Also, I should mention that I've been recovering from a pretty serious lower back injury. A little over a month ago I was deadlifting into the 300s when I definitely strained something bad in my lower back. I couldn't stand up straight or walk the day I hurt it, and it constantly hurt like a mother after that. I started the Incarnate last week hopin it'd alleviate some of the pain, which I think it did to some extent. Taking 4 days off bc of my surgery was also helpful since it allowed me to rest up.
Still, I felt no pain today. I'm still reluctant to go too heavy, but the worst of it seems to be gone. at least i hope haha
07-10-2007, 11:45 PM
Let the injury speak to you deeply, you are on a path to build and beautify your body, not to put it in a wheelchair. Please listen to it and take it real easy cause every nerve in your body goes up that lil oh spine!
<3 Neoborn <3
07-10-2007, 11:49 PM
07-11-2007, 01:26 AM
07-11-2007, 11:02 AM
slept extremely well last night. i don't feel lethargic this morning, but getting out of bed was a little difficult. i kind of just layed there for a good 10 min thinking about how much i didn't wanna get up to cook breakfast.
i'm going to go to the gym later and do some cardio w abs. i need a good solid ab workout.
no real weight gain as of yet. morning weight has been 195 every day. my night weight was up a little last night, from 196 to 197.5, but that was just immediate water weight i think.
07-11-2007, 11:04 AM
also, i tweaked my diet even more. i decided that 580 g carbs was WAYYYYYY too much to handle, especially considering that i'm not taking any supplements that would help me better metabolize all that food. 480 g of carbs seems like an ideal range for me... it's almost 100 g more than what i'm typically accustomed to, so it should help me put on lean mass in the long term, with the aid of this stack of course. the big changes are basically just eating 1 cup of oats with meals instead of 1.5.
07-11-2007, 11:15 AM
07-11-2007, 11:22 AM
07-11-2007, 11:43 AM
hey thanks a lot guys, i appreciate that support. can't wait til this stuff really kicks in tho.........
07-11-2007, 04:46 PM
came back from the gym about 30 min ago. today was just a light cardio/ ab day for me. more like a rest day if you will, but even on rest days i still prefer to stay active somehow.
today i did 20 min on the stepper machine, followed up by a few supersets of ab work. endurance on the stepper was fine. it was the first time i used that particular machine, so i had to get used to it for the first 5 min on level 1. after that i bumped it up to level 5 for 15 min and didn't tire out. i prefer running though.
ab workout was ok. though i'll admit, i always feel like i'm half-assing abs when i work them. holding an 8 lb medicine ball over my head, i did a bunch of crunches, superset with oblique twists using the ball, going back into more crunches, then more obliques.
after that i did a set of leg raises for 15 reps (this is hard bc my lower back tightens up), superset with 20 reps on the ab crunch machine. after that i did 2 sets of plank, for 1 min each.
i need to start drinking more water w these pills though. i stay well hydrated throughout the day, but when i take the pills i usually just drink enough water to get them all down. even though this is like a cup generally.
07-12-2007, 12:05 PM
my morning weight dropped 3 lbs to 192 from 195. i'm still not sure what exactly is causing this, but for the past few days I've had a continuous case of the runs and i'm losing water weight bc of it.
i have a couple of theories as to what may be causing this, but i'd like to know from others who've tested these products if they had similar sides. i've heard that Hyperdrol tends to reduce water weight, but i don't know how this happens. mass fx doesn't seem to induce stomach discomfort in anyone, nor does Retain.
i'm also speculating that maybe the Incarnate is giving me digestive problems bc of the 20% higher cissus extract in the compound, which might not be aggreing with my system. then again, i am dosing 8 caps a day. but i might reduce this to 6 again if necessary. i'd like to know the root of this problem so i can determine how to stop it.
i'm not supposed to lose weight on this cycle after all
07-12-2007, 10:16 PM
07-12-2007, 11:44 PM
tonight's workout - shoulders, traps, tris - was not bad at all. started off feeling a bit lethargic. i did not feel like i wanted to be there lifting. after i got into it though, the energy started to kick in and i felt like i had mad endurance come the mid- end of my lift. total lift was a little over an hour i think, but i wasn't worried bc i had the retain circulating in me.
workout was as follows:
warm - up:
shoulder press, bar x 20
45 lb dumbbells x 15
dumbbell shoulder press:
90 x 4 1/2
80 x 8
70 x 8
lat raises, triple drop set:
45 lb x 9 >> 30 x 10 >> 15 x 15
40 x 10 >> 30 x 10 >> 15 x 15
smith military press, triple drop set:
195 x 9 >> 155 x 4 + 1 >> 135 x 3 + 1
lying lat raises, drop set:
25 x 15 >> 10 x 20
bar x 15
225 x 10
245 x 9
275 x 8
shrug machine, drop down:
*i got two dudes at the gym to sit on this while i shrugged em. the thing goes up to 295 max, then both guys were like 185 ish.
675 ish x 10 >> 295 x 10
70 x 11
cable rope extensions, superset w/ pushdowns:
175 x 10 >> 75 x 4
cable rope extensions, superset w/ rope pushdown:
195 x 6 >> 55 x 15
Close grip bench, superset w/ rope pushdown:
135 x 15 >> 70 x 15
Close grip bench, superset w/ french press (using EZ bar):
185 x 6 >> 85 x 6
I was pumped throughout the workout, my shoulders especially. Took only that first set of rope pull over extensions to induce a massive tricep pump im my arms. Traps were lookin good too.
Obviously the stuff is starting to kick in minimally. I'm probably feeling the effects of Incarnate more so than the other supplements at this juncture, simply bc i've been taking it now for almost 2 weeks, at 8 caps a day the second week. Aggression is starting to kick in and my strength felt good, but idt this workout is anything that I couldn't have done myself before I started supplementing with the mass fx stack. But it's still only week one, and I haven't yet upped the dose of FX.
My plan will look like this:
Week 2 ---- 4 FX, 4 Hx2, 3 R2
Week 3 ---- 5 FX, 5 Hx2, 3 R2
Week 4 ---- 5/6 FX, 5 Hx2, 3 R2
and so on, til I empty my bottles. I figured that it only makes sense to up the doses and get the most out of my money. But I'll see how 4 pills a day feels. I've been hearing though that amplifying the dose amplifies the results, so we'll see.
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