"Mass Tabs" Log!!!
- 07-08-2007, 12:16 PM
- 07-08-2007, 06:58 PM
- 07-09-2007, 12:23 AM
07-16-2007, 01:09 AM
07-16-2007, 01:13 AM
I'm still here....
Still taking mass tabs...
Diet isn't QUITE as clean as it needs to be... BUT i use my abs as my judging point....
If they start to fade... i clean up the diet.... if they are hard and ripped.... then i'm good! LOL
Have gained about 6 lbs so far... and still logging stuff... BUT have moved into a new place and have been REALLY busy!
I will be on tomorrow to update.
Thanks for the interest though....
I figured no one was really paying attention.. I appreciate it! honestly...
07-25-2007, 12:29 AM
Sorry about my lack of commitment to posting.. LOL.. started out strong.... but faded with my busy schedule...
Today was my last day of Mass Tabs.. i noticed MOST of the results this past week and a half! WOW! It feels GREAT!!!
HEre are some pics... My diet has been CRAPPY the past 3 days.. so i'm not as cut as i usually am... and am a little bloated.... I personally think i can see a difference...
WHAT DO YA'LL THINK?!?!!?
Not the BEST abs pic... but still one prior to Mass Tabs
************Two Weeks In To Mass Tabs************
About 164lbs-ish... Lower B/F it seems to me...
Not Bad, ehh?
**************LAST DAY OF MASS TABS! (TODAY*********
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE lighting.. LOL... and NO pump... but i still see some improvement... YOU??? Ohhh.. weight around 167, maybe 168 as of today...
Another one... different lighting....
Abs... NOTE, i am BLOATED.... but i see a BIG improvement...
Some sort of cool chest/abs pic....
THATS IT FOLKS....WILL POST MY FINAL REVIEW OF IT TOMORROW....
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me kno what u think!!?? I could LOVE to hear come thoughts! (contructive criticism....)
07-25-2007, 12:34 AM
AWESOME job, bro! Looks like you put on some nice size and even lost some BF. What more could you ask for?
Now just make sure you nail down your diet during pct to solidify the gains.
07-25-2007, 12:40 AM
I appreciate u following along....
ALSO... any ideas on changing up my diet..?
I am starting the MassFX, Hyperdrol2, Retain2 (from AnabolicXtreme) AS my PCT tomorrow....
I let myself carb up a little more while on this cycle.... can i continue to allow this when using the AnabolicXtreme's supps?
Or should i lower the carbs again? I am SOOO SICK of freakin canned tuna, broiled chix, and everything else i've been eating for the last 3 or 4 months....!!!
I was GONNA take a week break.. but i don't want my Estrogen to bounce back.. and am starting the PCT tomorrow....
07-25-2007, 01:28 AM
You're not using Nolva anymore?
I'd keep the calories high right now to help hold on to those gains. If you want, lower the carbs after pct.
07-25-2007, 02:13 AM
Yeah make sure to use the nolva, and for some reason i didnt get any update emails until tonight otherwise i wouldve been here sooner. I'd keep the carb intake the same, just make sure theyre complex. Muscles are looking thicker man, how were the strength gains?
07-27-2007, 04:34 PM
07-29-2007, 11:39 AM
OK... i know about "shutdown" ....
But i dont think i had it very bad at all (if any)....
Tell me what you think....
I mainly experiences REALLY REALLY lethargic during the 2nd week...... Then that went away in a few days... i up'ed my carb intake....
I have liquid nolvadex.. but since nothing was like gyno... or any major estrogen related sides occured i didn't take it.
I am now into day 3 of my MassFx/HyperdrolX2/Retain2 stack that i am using as my post cycle therapy...... Should i start to include a daily dose of the liquid nolva? Maybe a dose of 40/30/20/10 (4 weeks)???
Even if i experienced no real gyno or estro-rebound? (and what are some major indicators of estro-rebound?)
I like the MassFX/HyperdrolX2/Retain2..... i really think it is helping keep my cortisol levels down.... i think thats HUGE for me as i am in the military and sometimes my eating schedule (as much as i pack ahead.... and try to bring cans of tuna and nuts and protein shakes with me) can get a little screwed up.
07-29-2007, 12:44 PM
I say go ahead and run the Nolva as you said. Being shutdown is not only determined by physical changes, although it can be. You already have it, so why not use it?
07-29-2007, 04:09 PM
Yeah i would definitely run the nolva just to be safe cause you dont want to have to worry about delayed onset gyno.
07-29-2007, 04:45 PM
Serms aren't just for blocking gyno. Tamox increases the responsiveness of LH (luteinizing hormone) to GnRH (gonadtropin releasing hormone) thus helping to jumpstart your hpta.
07-29-2007, 06:30 PM
Ok ok ok...
I'll run the liquid nolvadex..... LOL
ALSO... had to go to the doctor today... so i figured i'd get some bloodwork done.
I have a blood test (which includes liver and kidney function) along with a full testosterone test being done.
I should the results back by wednesday... So we'll exactly where i am at....
07-29-2007, 06:34 PM
08-07-2007, 10:32 AM
Big update folks....
HOLY CRAP!!! Got my blood tests back....
Liver and Kidneys were good. Kidneys showed signs of dehydration.... so i am pounding more water and being REALLY good about my "Cycle Support" product.....
Test levels came back today.... and NOT GOOD!
MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR shutdown! For a guy my age.... TEST should be a BARE MINIMUM of 38 to a high of 158..... (free test....)
MY free test was at 9! FREAKIN 9! I was already 2-3 weeks into PCT.... and they are at 9!!! My TOTAL test levels are only at 26!!!! (they should be at over 200!!!)
I am taking my SERM... (which i am begining to think is BS.... i got liquid Nolvadex from a "reputible" person on....) and ALL my PCT products (i.e. natty test booster, AI, cortisol blocker...)
What should i do folks?
Let them rebound on their own...? The Dr. said i REALLY need to see an endocryologist (i'm assuming thats a testosterone Dr....)
Your Thoughts?? Should i just wait to see how the PCT works?
08-07-2007, 11:03 AM
wow thats bad news. Go see an endo anyway and see what they say. How is your libido/sex drive, and ability to have an erection?
08-07-2007, 11:09 AM
My ex dropped my ass a few months back (been hittin the gym REALLY har since then)....
I haven't really had ANY WANT or DRIVE to have ANY sex. Have had about 3 erections in the past week.....
I didn't really think that it may have been the Mass Tabs.... I just assumed i was upset about the ex... and i am busy and when you have NO REAL WANT to have sex... i tended to just not think about it...
In hindsight.... yea... my libido and erections are nearly non-existent...
It hasn't been an issue (b/c i haen't been with anyone since the ex...) but now i am thinking this isn't good. I have no signs of gyno.... and i think my estrogen is ok... but when one hormone (i.e. Test) is low.. the body compensate with an increase in the other hormone (estrogen)...
Could a delayed estrogen rebound take place? Its been a few weeks since i've been on Mass Tabs... and i've been good with my post cycle therapy.... my test is STILL at 9....
And the endo Dr costs over $350 for initial visit... PLUS any bllod work or tests... i DO NOT have insurance OR any money for that!
I think i will bump up the MassFX, Hyperdrol and Retain 2 dosage... and taper it off when i feel better.
I notice i am VERY VERY tired all the time.
08-07-2007, 11:15 AM
i was in the same situation with a breakup. THats what got me back hard in the gym. anyway...
keep taking that serm.
take a look at the anti aging forum for help. Tell them your bloodwork numbers but whatever you do DO NOT MENTION TAKING ANABOLICS! See what they reccommend for you.
08-07-2007, 01:17 PM
When I went through a nasty divorce a year ago I was sex-driveless for nearly 6 months, even though I hadn't had sex in almost the last 2 years I was married.
I did a few rounds of test boosters and 6-OXO and still didn't have much of a libido until I met my current girl. The dozen women before them just didn't do anything for me.
After a month or so of us dating the first time in the ring I went 7 rounds with her on a sunday. She didn't recover from that for nearly a week.
From then on out I've ranged from 3 times a day to 4-5 times a week on a good week.
Not too bad for being almost 33.
Do your PCT, but don't let it get in your head even more that you're 'broken'.
Just from what I learned during my rocky 7 year marriage, is that your mental status will make or break you in the bedroom and any where else.
08-07-2007, 01:33 PM
i had a feeling that was what was killing me too. I still am searching for someone to give it back to me. Ive been with a handful of girls since then but none ive been that 'driven' for.
okay back on topic.
08-13-2007, 01:12 AM
08-13-2007, 01:30 PM
Things are looking MUCH better...
The Dr. said "well whatever supplements your taking are causing your body to think it has too much test and is therefore not producing it" (so i assume she had an idea that was what i was talking about...)
Also.. i'm into week one of my SERM and PCT products... Just one week of this SERM and i can FINALLY feel some libido! LOL THANK GOD! Erections are great! I forgot what they were like for the past 5 days!!! LOL
08-13-2007, 07:36 PM
08-14-2007, 12:08 AM
Yeah, nolva, activate, and a little ATD had my fellas hanging lower than ever. The gf took it pretty hard... pun intended.
08-14-2007, 12:23 AM
08-14-2007, 02:00 AM
yeah paravol would be a good choice to add, of course the SERM will do the most good, but it definitely would not hurt.
08-14-2007, 01:13 PM
INSIDIOUS, do you work out incilne bench more than flat and decline, you seem to have a lot of your pecs on the upper and out into your shoulder
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