- 06-06-2007, 06:36 PM
This is my first post and my first log...
Just started this stuff on Sunday, so its about day 4 now.
Previous experience: 3 weeks superdrol a few months ago
Diet: 3200 calorie isocaloric cut
Supplements: I plan to run this stuff straight through at 30 mg, for 4 weeks.
I ran 15 mgs for the first 3 days and recently bumped it to 30.
Im taking red yeast rice, saw palmetto, milk thistle, hawthorn berry, and Im using nizoral shampoo, not gonna risk any kind of hair problems.
Routine: Im doing a 4 day bodybuilding split. I normally train as a powerlifter so this should give me a bit more variety. Very high volume, 4 sets of 10-12 on most exercises.
edit: i should also note that I ran a ephedrine caffiene stack for 1.5 weeks and stopped when I started taking the pheravol.
- 06-06-2007, 06:40 PM
bodyweight pullups 4 sets upto 15 BWx15 BWx15 BWx12
bent over row barbell or db 4 sets 8-12 90x12 90x12 90x12 really hard to hold onto
front pulldown wide or narrow (switch it up) 3 sets 8-10 180x8 180x8 180x8 couldn’t hold onto the bar
cable row 3 sets 6-10 165x12 165x12 165x12 same
behind the head 2 sets 15 reps Medium easy weight 105x12 105x12
No real side effects or signs yet. Id imagine it will kick in next week, much like superdrol.
This workout wasn't great, mainly because my gym doesnt let me use chalk anymore.
I also lost about 2 lbs since Monday, despite having a rather hefty refeed yesterday, where I ate about 4000 calories, 170g fat, 385g carbs, 235g protein.
Hoping for some kickass workouts in the days to come.
also rode an ergometer after dinner for about 20 mins, hill climb mode, so 175 average heart rate, with a 190 highest.
- 06-06-2007, 08:16 PM
06-06-2007, 11:45 PM
Most of the positive effects first come after the 10 day mark and become very evident after day 20. Stick with this, b/c I'm positive you'll enjoy the results. Too bad we didn't speak earlier, we could have added some Propadrol to the mix and made this a sponsored log.
06-07-2007, 12:09 AM
06-07-2007, 12:11 AM
06-07-2007, 02:55 PM
06-07-2007, 03:03 PM
It's a phera clone. It comes in a 75 count bottle with 15mg per cap.
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
06-07-2007, 03:16 PM
06-07-2007, 05:28 PM
Swam the crawl non stop for a half mile, took about 40 mins.
Havent noticed any effects, but I feel like Im on a hair trigger. Really pissed off. Also feel horny all the time.
06-07-2007, 05:53 PM
06-07-2007, 05:56 PM
06-07-2007, 08:37 PM
06-07-2007, 08:45 PM
your results sound just like i felt first time i did andro, back in the day. bought it at cvs drugstore for $12. i got horny as hell and hot headed, then got stronger than ever, body started changing all that good stuff. didnt even realize the andro was doing it till i ran out. stuff just sort of sneaks up on you, then bam you feel like he-man.
06-08-2007, 08:35 PM
cals today were about 3500 or so, Ive given up on cutting for the most part, just eating clean.
workout was average...
3 sets CG Bench 8-10 135x10 145x10 150x6
3 sets Smith Seated Military 115x8 115x8 115x8
3 sets side laterals db 10-12 20x12 20x12 20x12
3 sets rear lateral db 10-12 15x12 15x12 15x12
3 sets seated DB shrugs 10-12 85x12 85x12 85x12
3 sets 10-15 bar cable pushdown 140x15 140x15 140x15
3 sets reversed cable push down (palms facing) 8-10 100x10 100x10 100x10
3 sets barbell curl 8-12 75x10 75x10 75x10
3 sets preacher db 8-12 30x8 30x8 30x8
2 sets hammer curl db 10-15 30x10 27.5x10 27.5x10
closegrip bench went down a lot, I only focused on it when I did superdrol a few months ago, and I got up to repping 185 on it for a few. Now I'm in the 140's. It should come back once this stuff kicks in I guess.
Does this stuff make you watery? I know with superdrol, I got up to 190 on it, and felt like a big watery bloat. Havent felt that at all so far, and pumps have been about average.
Hopefully it will kick in this monday.
06-09-2007, 04:49 PM
Saturday: Went cycling, about 45 mins, medium intensity.
Some college douchebag gave me the finger and yelled some ****, almost smashed his windows in, but decided against it.
Don't understand these ***s. Im obviously in shape and bigger then them. Maybe I should start carrying when I ride lol.
Besides elevated heart rate from the stims and the dmt, felt pretty good.
06-09-2007, 06:13 PM
06-10-2007, 04:52 PM
Sunday: 25 mins hillclimb on a cycle ergometer.
A lot easier then the other day I did this. Heart rate about 170 with a pedal rpm of about 70-80.
Weight is about 179. Hasnt changed. Im leaning a bit, but Id like to get some lean mass soon...
Felt good. Walked about a mile to and from gym.
Calories: probably end the day between 3500 and 4000.
this is day 7.
06-10-2007, 08:16 PM
06-10-2007, 09:26 PM
06-10-2007, 09:50 PM
day 10....just make sure u eat alot..even if there small meals and keep ur protein 300-400grams a day...and ull get bigger from it
06-11-2007, 02:18 AM
alright i guess ill start chugging whey with every meal.
im at about 250g protein from solid meals (meat and what not) right now.
06-11-2007, 07:21 PM
4 sets leg ext 10-15reps Easyx15 Easyx15 Easyx15 Easyx15
4 sets squat 6-10 reps 185x5 225x10 235x8 245x8 easy
4 sets leg curl 10-12reps setting4x12 setting4x12 setting5x12
3 sets leg press 10-12 reps 200x15 290x12 380x12 cramp in right calf
3 sets db stiff leg deadlift 8 reps 80x8 80x8 80x8
squats were all done raw, no belt.
pretty easy workout, taking it easy b/c I havent squatted in 2 weeks. My best 1rm squat was a month ago, 385 with knee wraps and a belt. Im hoping for a 425 squat at a meet this fall.
Weight: still 179 calories are between 3500 and 4000 as usual.
got sort of a watery flabby spare tire thing going, was hoping to have that either gone or have my weight go up and say to hell with it, but neither seems to be happening. Its still early though.
still taking 25 mg ephedrine and a ton of caffiene.
06-11-2007, 09:08 PM
06-12-2007, 04:46 PM
I guess androstenol is naturally occuring as a pheramone and a very androgenic/anabolic chemical in urine and sweat.
Anyway, it has less 2ene isomers then pheraplex, mg for mg, but more 3 ene, which means it has possibly less sides, which is kind of irrelevant since Im taking 30 mg a day.
Atleast thats my understanding of it.
3 sets flat db: 8-12 80x10 80x11 80x10
4 sets incline db 8-12 65x10 65x11 65x10 65x8
3 sets db fly or machine 12-12 reps 40x12 40x12 40x12
DB pullover 60x12 hard to balance
Pullover machine medium wt. x 12
2 Sets BodyWeight Dips BWx8 BWx1 Couldnt do anymore!!!!
up 3 lbs in a day, nice! Solid!
Hoping for 95's by the end of the cycle, Im getting nice contraction, full range of motion on the 80's right now, so its definitely doable.
06-13-2007, 06:18 PM
06-14-2007, 06:03 PM
bodyweight pullups 4 sets upto 15 BWx15 BWx10 BWx8 sort of half repped them lol
bent over row db 4 sets 8-12 90x12 90x12 90x12 90x12 Really easy, really explosive, felt like a punching machine
front pulldown wide 3 sets 8-10 195x12 180x10 180x8 165x8 not too shaby
cable row 3 sets 6-10 195x6 180x8 165x8 more explosive then anything, pretty heavy though
behind the head pulldown 2 sets 15 reps Medium easy weight 105x15 90x15 shoulders felt a bit impinged, so I just tried to get a nice contraction through the area where it didn’t hurt
Broomstick rotations 30 reps
Ab Machine Heavyx8
Bodyweight Hypers 30 reps, speedy
Notes: This felt incredible. Sick pumps. I felt like a flying squirrel. The db rows were fast, but with full rom.
Used straps this time, so I wouldnt get yelled at for using chalk. Forearm pump was so bad that the straps got really tight haha. Can't wait till arm day tomorrow .
Probably do 20 minutes of hill climb ergometer tonight. So far Im leaning out and Ive gained about 6 lbs of lean mass. Im gaining like 3 lbs a night
06-15-2007, 06:15 PM
3 sets CloseGrip Bench 8-10 135x10 145x10 150x7
3 sets Bradford Press x 12 75x12 75x12 85x12
3 sets side laterals 10-12 20x12 20x12 20x12
3 sets rear lateral db 10-12 17.5x12 17.5x12 17.5x12
3 sets 10-15 bar cable pushdown 140x15 140x15 130x15
3 sets reversed cable push down (palms facing) 8-10 100x12 100x12 100x12
3 sets barbell curl 8-12 85x9 85x6 75x6 75x8
3 sets preacher db 8-12 32.5x10 32.5x10 32.5x10
2 sets hammer curl db 10-15 27.5x10 27.5x10
pretty nice pump. weight keeps going up and down, but im leaning out. Tricep and bicep felt like one big blob of muscle, pretty cool Started running out of time as the gym was closing, so I had really short rest periods from shoulders on.
06-15-2007, 07:49 PM
06-17-2007, 07:51 PM
Day 14, end of week 2. Halfway done cycle.
Average weight today is about 182. So only about 3 lbs net bodyweight gain, but Ive definitely dropped some bodyfat and I've gained about a 1/4" on my arms. Definitely not retaining any water on this cycle like I did with superdrol.
Im still eating a ton of calories, but I don't seem to be packing on the pounds. Thats fine by me, as long as I gain muscle size and poundage on my lifts, which has happened so far.
Sunday: Rode cycle ergo for 20 minutes on hill climb mode.
Maybe I'll throw in a few superdrols this week, but the sides on superdrol were pure awful for me when I did it a few months ago. I never went over 20mg on it, and I felt like walking death. Ideas?
edit: another thought: Ive been taking the first dose when i get up, between 10 and 11 am, and the second around dinner time, 7 pm. That okay?
06-18-2007, 05:30 PM
Week3: definitely feel it today. lots of aggression, focus, etc.
switched around my workouts b/c I have an exam, so I did chest on monday....
3 sets flat db 8-12 85x8 85x8 85x8
4 sets incline db 8-12 70x8 70x9 70x10 70x10
3 sets db fly 12 reps 40x12 40x12 40x12 easy
Pullover machine medium wt. x 20 medium wt. x 16
2 Sets BodyWeight Dips BWx8 BWx8
Cable Bar Curl 90x12 100x15 easy, nice pump, fast
Insane pump in my bi's, chest, tri's, delts. Amazing. Weight is about 183. Whatever gut I had is gone.
06-19-2007, 06:11 PM
Squat (belt) 265x8 265x6 265x6
Cable Pullthroughs w/ rope 80x20 80x20
Decline Crunches, Fast BWx20 BWx20
Guys, whats up with the lack of weight gain on this stuff?
Im eating the same I did on superdrol, and I gained about 17 lbs while on cycle with superdrol.
Should I throw in 20mg superdrol for the remaining 2 weeks? Serious question.
Is my pheravol defective/junk?
06-19-2007, 06:14 PM
up to 45 mgs a day...i am on 45mgs a day..phera plex and phera vol arent the same compound exactly it has 2 less ion's or something like that so i read you would need more to equal phera vol...just my 02. cents
06-19-2007, 06:18 PM
Is that safe for my weight? No sides that Ive noted so far. Blood pressure and heart rate are fine.
I appreciate the help. Would like some additional opinions. I got about 30 caps of superdrol sitting in my desk that I can always throw in. I was gonna run 4.5 weeks (the whole bottle) of the pvol.
I only weigh in the 180's so Im not a huge dude.
06-19-2007, 08:29 PM
yeah i did when i took it...i am just on carnage now though....i did every other day @ 45,30,45 etc.
06-19-2007, 10:07 PM
06-20-2007, 06:52 PM
day 18: took 3 pheras.
one in the morning, one before swimming, one after. (swam around 5pm). About 45 mg.
Swam 1/2 mile, about 35 minutes. Left rotator cuff gave me a bit of trouble but it kinda also helped it a little. Probably from doing a few pushpresses yesterday.
nice pump from swimming. Weight still the same, visibly leaner but I want the size, not the cuts.
06-21-2007, 06:43 PM
decided to throw some more power movements in since i got tired of working my lats today and I wanted to show off a bit
Curl Grip Chins BWx15 BWx15 BWx8
bent over row db 4 sets 8-12 100x12 100x12 100x12
front pulldown wide 3 sets 8-10 195x10 195x10 195x10
WSB Pin Pull 225x3 315x3 405x3 495x1 pretty easy 545x0 tired. no belt, no shoes, though i got yelled at after the 495.
hoping for a 455-495lb or more pull at my next pl comp.
06-21-2007, 07:47 PM
06-21-2007, 11:34 PM
Hey, just ride the cycle out. IMO, the swimming is probably causing you to burn most of the calories that you're taking in. IMO, its not the best thing to be doing when your your main intent is bulking. Did you do this while taking SD? I was just wondering, b/c I usually got cramps while taking SD and trying to run. I just figured it would have the same effect if a user would be using it while swimming. BTW, feel free to PM with any questions in the next ten days.
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