havoc / epistane yes or no

[smalls556]

well i have read every log i can find and all the info to, but for all those of you that have used this coumpound what would it be, does it live up to the hype, would you use it again or what, or if you have used other designers in the past would you prefer those instead, and what were they

[Chad]

Epi is good stuff. im not going to try and sell it to you but it works and you feel good while on it.

[mmowry]

Epistane is the best all round anabolic Ive ever used.So its no hype as i logged it here Epistane the anabolic GYNO destroyer

Good luck!

[David Dunn]

The question is ambiguous. Say it out loud to yourself. Epi OR Havic? It's either one or the other, not, yes or no.

mmowry - ever? compared to?

[mmowry]

M1t,4AD,test,tren,methyl D The feeling of wellbeing and strong sex drive/function coupled with gyno reduction As opposed to aggitation was another outstanding benefit.

[smalls556]

The question is ambiguous. Say it out loud to yourself. Epi OR Havic? It's either one or the other, not, yes or no.

mmowry - ever? compared to?

i am not asking which one, they are supposed to have the same coumpound so that would be a pretty piontless question

[smalls556]

M1t,4AD,test,tren,methyl D The feeling of wellbeing and strong sex drive/function coupled with gyno reduction As opposed to aggitation was another outstanding benefit.

awesome that is exactly the info im looking for. i have used alot of different coumpounds and a have loved alot of them. but am looking for something different

[mmowry]

The question is ambiguous. Say it out loud to yourself. Epi OR Havic? It's either one or the other, not, yes or no.

mmowry - ever? compared to?

I got the compared to but the EVER ? Has me

[mmowry]

awesome that is exactly the info im looking for. i have used alot of different coumpounds and a have loved alot of them. but am looking for something different

The only one I didnt like was M1T(but I still ran it twice) as its tough to lift when you cramp up walking downstairs to your power rack.And I wont even begin to complain about how much fun I had while push mowing my yard.

[jomi822]

its worth giving a shot.

the only side effect i can truly complain about is the lethargy. stuff is like godamn m1t in this regard

other than that, its packin on weight very quickly and the stength gains are certainly coming along.

you might want to go with it simply for its safety profile

[David Dunn]

i am not asking which one, they are supposed to have the same coumpound so that would be a pretty piontless question

OK! gotcha. In light of the recent EPIsode that wreaked Havoc on our board, I only assumed that because they were potentially (by all accounts it could be possible) different compound that one would mean the difference bewteen them. Hey, its your poll. Enjoy

[David Dunn]

I got the compared to but the EVER ? Has me

You covered it? You said best ever and I wanted to know what compounds. Thanks

[Fabulous One]

Not used Epi yet, but Havoc has me feeling quite good. The day after I take it(I am pulsing)I feel really upbeat and a positive mood. If had me some Poseidon I'd be rockin'

[mmowry]

OK! gotcha. In light of the recent EPIsode that wreaked Havoc on our board, I only assumed that because they were potentially (by all accounts it could be possible) different compound that one would mean the difference bewteen them. Hey, its your poll. Enjoy

Very witty!

[smalls556]

its worth giving a shot.

the only side effect i can truly complain about is the lethargy. stuff is like godamn m1t in this regard

anyone else get the bad lethargy

[cr4ytonic]

OK! gotcha. In light of the recent EPIsode that wreaked Havoc on our board, I only assumed that because they were potentially (by all accounts it could be possible) different compound that one would mean the difference bewteen them. Hey, its your poll. Enjoy

Wow you had fun writing that one

Good to see you after a few years of beign away

[David Dunn]

I'm always here, not always seen

You just pupped up out of nowhere though, didn't you?

[supersoldier]

anyone else get the bad lethargy

For me, not even close. In fact, just the opposite. I felt like a million bucks on it.

[mmowry]

Like SS said only energy and a good mood!

[NJLovehandles]

Currenlty on day 8 of 900mg 4AD (only have 3 weeks worth) and 30 mgs Havoc and loving it. Some back pumps, but to me that means its working. Joints feel a bit tight as well which would lead me to beleive there is some truth to the anti E situation. This is happening even with the 4AD however it could be from moving more weight. Anyways I falready feel stonger after 8 days and the pumps are sick.

[smalls556]

all great info thanks, i am sold i will be picking up some havoc right away

[supersoldier]

all great info thanks, i am sold i will be picking up some havoc right away

If me and mmowry sold you then you'll be picking up some Epi. New stock will be this week.

[Chad]

For me, not even close. In fact, just the opposite. I felt like a million bucks on it.

i felt like one hundred billion trillion gazillion bucks!!!!!!

[cr4ytonic]

I'm always here, not always seen

You just pupped up out of nowhere though, didn't you?

Yes, sorry I was referring to myself as being away. My how things have changed. So many old mods are reps now.

I was going through my "supplement lair" box and thought it might be time to check back in on the forum

[yeahright]

I was impressed by this product.

[bpmartyr]

The couple weeks I was taking Havoc before injury had me feeling pretty good. No lethargy like other orals I have used.

[gogo]

everyones libido good? Im really worried about it and thinking of stacking with dhea.. what do you think?

[poopypants]

i felt this is the best compound taken thus far (M1t, Phera, SD, Prostan, M-trn, Halodrol, and epi) its brought all the benifits of my favorite ones and none of the sides.
good clean gains in LBM reduction in gyno instead of aggrivating it, and great strength gains, all the while my libido stayed in tact and i had an enormous sense of well being.

check out my log below.... n id wait for the new batch of epi if i were you.JMO

[poopypants]

would you use it again

i cant wait.

[smalls556]

i cant wait.

good stuff. i cant wait either

[lennoxchi]

everyones libido good? I'm really worried about it and thinking of stacking with dhea.. what do you think?

can't speak on Havoc, but can on Epi.....weird thing about it is ....libido is UP..i mean way UP no pun intended...if there was DHEA stacked with this for me, i wouldn't be able to walk correctly.....possible stretch marks involved you get the picture...

[poopypants]

lol true that! plus adding dhea is only gonna really give ya a chance to have some aromitization to est and although epi blocks est it works GREAT on its own.... id wait for a stronger non methyl to stack.... hint hint 380

[glockma]

is havoc/epi a roid or not? can't seem to get a definite answer. lots of opinions but no REAL answer. are they pro-hormones, pro-steroids or flat out steroids? I'm on one of them now, (not going to say which for anti-drama reasons) i believe they are both good products from what ive read. Can someone answer my question?

[yeahright]

is havoc/epi a roid or not? can't seem to get a definite answer. lots of opinions but no REAL answer. are they pro-hormones, pro-steroids or flat out steroids? I'm on one of them now, (not going to say which for anti-drama reasons) i believe they are both good products from what ive read. Can someone answer my question?

That depends upon how you define steroid but my answer is yes. This product doesn't convert into the active form of something else. It's active in of itself.

[glockma]

Thank you. The info I read about is so mind blowing sometimes. Just looking for a majority opinion at this point.

[LuvMuhRoids]

I take it because it's an LH stimulator since I have suppresion from certain activities. To me this makes these compounds a good libido enhancer.

[glockma]

that is for sure.

[Dutchman]

I have done Andro this and Nor-Andro that, 1,4, 1-AD, MOHN, M1T, SD and many others I can't even remember now. Epistane is the best, the safest supp I have EVER used. There really is nothing else I have ever known that could provide such great strength increases, good libido and yet no sides.

[poopypants]

I have done Andro this and Nor-Andro that, 1,4, 1-AD, MOHN, M1T, superdrol and many others I can't even remember now. Epistane is the best, the safest supp I have EVER used. There really is nothing else I have ever known that could provide such great strength increases, good libido and yet no sides.

[nycste]

I have done Andro this and Nor-Andro that, 1,4, 1-AD, MOHN, M1T, superdrol and many others I can't even remember now. Epistane is the best, the safest supp I have EVER used. There really is nothing else I have ever known that could provide such great strength increases, good libido and yet no sides.

could you post or maybe i missed it your dosages? and cycle length.