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  1. Yeah, i have been pounding the vit c. Im totally out of it today. Weighed myself this morning but didnt write it down and dont have a clue what it was. Skipping cardio as my entire body feels achy. Libido has been non existent the last few days. Perhaps due to this illness. Need to recover from this fast....


  2. get lots of rest, try taking a combo of basic ariginine, orthinine, and citrulline right before you get some sleep. it will release your natural groth hormone always helps me get better. get b vitamins with your vitamin c.
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  3. Grab some
    Echinacea and Goldenseal. It works every time for me. In about three days I usually feel better.

  4. Thanks for the advice guys. Yesterday I took off from the gym. Felt better but wanted to be fully recovered. It worked cause by the time today rolled around I had so much pent up aggression I just took it out in the gym. It was definitely my best workout since the start of this havoc cycle. Weight this morning was 205 which I dont think is bad considering my appetite during the sick days was not very good. Hopefully the progress starts kicking in faster now.

  5. Took it easy this weekend trying to kill off the last of this virus. Did chest and bi's today. Felt very aggressive in the gym however I noticed some aches and pains so I am going to start upping the fish/flax oils.

    Weight this morning is 204.5 which is a bit disappointing. Hopefully big gains come this week as I am really going to hit is hard. Depending on the final results of this cycle I will do another cycle at a higher dosage. Unless of course I choose to use another product.
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  6. Weight this morning was 205.5. Last night sleep was a lil sweaty and restless. This also included some back pumps. Forehead is a little more oily then normal.

    Just got done doing legs, and strength is definitely up. Squat felt great and now that I'm home I feel as though I could have done more!

    I have really upped the fish and flax oil. Wrist issues dont seem to be getting any better. Also I may be paranoid but last night before bed it looked as though I may have some small gyno developing. By morning it looked fine and since I began this cycle I have had zero nipple irritation.

    Oh and I believe I have found a good pre workout combo with Havoc. It is 10mg Havoc, 1g Taurine, 1 levithian, and some fish and flax oil. Sounds weird but it has worked well.

  7. Did back and traps tonight. Sorta havent done traps in a long time and they felt great. Energy is up. Still wish I would have a better libido and it appears I have a little shutdown starting.

    The good news....weight was 209 this morning. Dont think I was carrying to much water weight, so I am pretty happy about that. Im almost to the 4th and final week and I'm excited to up it to 40mg's/day.

  8. Weight was still 209 this morning! Did shoulders and tri's tonight. Weights felt good all around and my rear delts felt like they were going to explode. Looking forward to a weekend of rest and ladies....

  9. how are you liking havoc now?

    I have 2 bottles coming my way

  10. chest and bi's tonight. Felt good but I fatigued a lot faster then I wanted. I should say that I am definitely looking more vascular and bigger. My weight this morning was 208, but I appear bigger and have a better V shape to my upper torso. Really going to push it this week b/c I am up to 40mgs/day. Next time I run this I think I will increase the dosage significantly depending on how PCT goes (assuming my boys and everything else gets back to normal quickly).

    I should mention that my nipples are a lot more puffy. I dont believe its gyno however...? I have no irritation, itching, or pain in the nipple area. Just puffiness. Should this be a conern???

  11. Anyone on the gyno question? I am not overly concerned about it....maybe I should be though considering this compound claims to eliminate/reduce gyno, not cause it.

  12. Did legs tonight. Things felt very good.

    Squats ATG
    Warmup 135
    185 x 10
    195 x 10
    205 x 10
    215 x 8

    paramount Swing maching thingy (love this machine for quads)
    Warmup
    Each set using a slow 3-5 second eccentric
    160 x 8
    160 x 8
    160 x 8
    160 x 7

    Seated Ham Curl
    3-5 second eccentric
    half stack x 8
    half stack x 8
    half stack x 8
    half stack x 6

    Seat leg extensions
    3-5 sec eccentric
    half stack x 8
    half stack x 8
    half stack x 8
    toast by this time....No mas

    Seated calf raise (concentrating hard on that mind/muscle connection)
    55 x 12
    55 x 12
    55 x 12
    55 x 12

    Weight this morning was 209. Dosed 10mg around 8:30 am, 1pm, 5pm, and I take another 10mg in about an hour.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    I should mention that my nipples are a lot more puffy. I dont believe its gyno however...? I have no irritation, itching, or pain in the nipple area. Just puffiness. Should this be a conern???
    I was told its normal to have a lil puff when in a PH

    PCT will elimate it all though

  14. Quote Originally Posted by 300Fan View Post
    I was told its normal to have a lil puff when in a PH

    post cycle therapy will elimate it all though
    Yes, I've read the same. Pry just bein paranoid.

    Weight this morning was 209.5. Did 30 minutes of cardio tonight (blah) and some light abs. Slowly going to try and transition PCT into a short cutting cycle (non hormonal products only). I'll post my stack a little later...

  15. Tonight I hammered the back and a lil traps. Lately I have just been focusing on the mind/muscle connection as recommended after talking with a trainer friend of mine for an extended period of time.

    Hang Cleans
    Focusing hard on the pull
    125 x 8
    125 x 8
    125 x 8
    125 x 8

    Chin ups
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5

    Bent over bb row
    (squeeze and hold at the top)
    105 x 10
    105 x 10
    105 x 10

    Lat Pull Down
    (focusing on pullin elbows straight back/down)
    half stack x 10
    half stack x 10
    half stack x 10

    Seated Row
    (slow and steady wins the race)
    lil less than half stack x 10
    same x 10
    same x 10

    DB shrugs
    BB shrugs

    Weight this morning was 210. Sorta felt some back pumps still not nearly bad at all. Nearing the end of this cycle :-<


    I mentioned my next stack will be for cutting and I will transition into it from PCT. I thought it was going to be some new innovative products on the market but I have decided to keep it old school with only some AP and bulk sesathin. I still think AP is the most effective product I have ever used. Seems to give me the same results as a low carb diet however I can eat carbs! Whats betta than that....nothing in my mind.

  16. Almost forgot to update. Last night I did some shoulders and tri's. All felt good. I appear to be more vascular especially in my arms. Triceps are sore today which is good b/c I have had trouble hitting them lately. Only a couple more days on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Tonight I hammered the back and a lil traps. Lately I have just been focusing on the mind/muscle connection as recommended after talking with a trainer friend of mine for an extended period of time.

    Hang Cleans
    Focusing hard on the pull
    125 x 8
    125 x 8
    125 x 8
    125 x 8

    Chin ups
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5

    Bent over bb row
    (squeeze and hold at the top)
    105 x 10
    105 x 10
    105 x 10

    Lat Pull Down
    (focusing on pullin elbows straight back/down)
    half stack x 10
    half stack x 10
    half stack x 10

    Seated Row
    (slow and steady wins the race)
    lil less than half stack x 10
    same x 10
    same x 10

    DB shrugs
    BB shrugs

    Weight this morning was 210. Sorta felt some back pumps still not nearly bad at all. Nearing the end of this cycle :-<


    I mentioned my next stack will be for cutting and I will transition into it from post cycle therapy. I thought it was going to be some new innovative products on the market but I have decided to keep it old school with only some AP and bulk sesathin. I still think AP is the most effective product I have ever used. Seems to give me the same results as a low carb diet however I can eat carbs! Whats betta than that....nothing in my mind.

    AP is new school and will super charge old school techniques.

  18. Alright today was my last day of havoc and I weighted in at 208.5 (edit...put 108.5, lol). My beginning weight was 199, so not counting water I at least gained a few pounds. I also appear much leaner/cut especially in my arms and stomach. Anyways.....pictures shortly.

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  21. Just some comments about the pics.

    Sorta look the same in those pics dont I? I actually think that i appear a lot more cut now then the beginning of the cycle. But not in those pics for some reason. Unfortunately my upper chest still looks lagging. I really have spent the last 2 months trying to work this out and I am still not seeing a ton of improvement. Oh well. I'll keep at it.

    I wish i would have taken pics of my back and legs. Its so hard photographing yourself with a cell phone though!

  22. Did legs tonight....wow my quads were full today. Also first weigh in after cycle and I was up to 210.5! That could obviously be some carry over but nonetheless....

    I took two MassFX today. Anyone know if Massfx should be taken with food or with an empty stomach??? I have taken BAM before but I know this is a little different.

  23. Anyone on the MassFX question?

    Also just an update PCT is going well. I am still weighing in at 210.5 this morning and I am not sure if it is the combination of AP and Powerfull but the pumps in the gym have been awesome.....awesome to the point of painful specifically in my lats and bi's.

  24. Thought i would post more good news. Weight went up some more! At 112.5 now and it doesnt appear to be more fat. Holla

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Anyone on the MassFX question?

    Also just an update post cycle therapy is going well. I am still weighing in at 210.5 this morning and I am not sure if it is the combination of AP and Powerfull but the pumps in the gym have been awesome.....awesome to the point of painful specifically in my lats and bi's.
    Thanks for logging. You mentioned that AP is one of you staple supps. When you took it before, did you stack it as you are now? Can you compare your MassFx + AP + PF pumps now to when you used AP (+whatever your stack was)?
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