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    lets wait till you hit day 7 and decide then! cool?

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    Day 6

    Sounds like a plan!

    Well, the HX2 definitely feels like its doing something. I feel/look kinda deflated even though Ive been upping the cals/carbs. Probably a side effect of the drop in estrogen.

    Also, Im not really sore at all...even legs or chest. I should at least feel a little stiff (especially after that chest workout).

    I dont percieve any effects of elevated androgens yet though, perhaps they'll manifest in the upcoming days.

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    Ill be hitting up arms/delts tomorrow...
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    if you don't "feel" it tomorrow, lets go ahead and up it to 5! I'll let you be the judge! PumpingIron did and said that was his magic bullet!
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    Well...this weekend I had several super-vivid sex dreams. That's usually a sign of some hormonal changes. Either that or Im starved for some good lovin'

    Actually this morning I looked in the mirror when I woke up and I looked noticeably more 'pumped' than usual - and I havent trained since Friday.

    Training chest tonight, we'll see how it goes!

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    Awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga View Post
    Well...this weekend I had several super-vivid sex dreams. That's usually a sign of some hormonal changes. Either that or Im starved for some good lovin'


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    You always get those after you see my avatar, remember?



    Nice work bro. Keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpmartyr View Post
    You always get those after you see my avatar, remember?



    Nice work bro. Keep it up!
    LOL^^

    Dude nice numbers, HDx2 is awesome. I have been logging it at AX and DA and I am about done. Just started hitting it hard again after a long lay-off due to an injury.

    Long story short lol my strength has increased at a very fast pace. Kicked in around the 5th day. Good luck!
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    You always get those after you see my avatar, remember?
    You know - I never made that connection! Sheeit - why take HX2 when I can just stare wistfully at my man BP for the test boost

    Dude nice numbers, HDx2 is awesome. I have been logging it at AX and DA and I am about done. Just started hitting it hard again after a long lay-off due to an injury.

    Long story short lol my strength has increased at a very fast pace. Kicked in around the 5th day. Good luck!

    Thanks bro! Yeah I can definitely feel something going on - looking forward to the gym tonight! Good luck with the recovery - I know what that's like let me tell ya

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    Day 9

    Chest

    DB Incline Bench Press

    Set 1
    70s x 8 - 75 degrees
    10 sec rest
    70s x 6 - 45 degrees
    10 sec rest
    70s x 6 - 25 degrees
    10 sec rest

    Set 2
    70s x 6 - 75 degrees
    10 sec rest
    70s x 3(fail) + 70s x 3 - 45 degrees
    30 sec rest
    70s x 5 - 25 degrees

    Set 3
    75s x 5 - 75 degrees
    10 sec rest
    75s x 2 (fail) 75s x 3 - 45 degrees
    30 sec rest
    75s x 4 - 25 degrees

    DB Flat Bench
    75s x 10, 75s x 8, 75s x 8

    Pec Dec
    20, 18, 15

    Dips
    15
    12
    10

    Its tough to gauge if my strength was up this week. I went up a bit on the weight, but was also lifting rest/pause style and it really took it out of me. I failed 3 times during those incline sets - honest failure too I was pushing as hard as I could and my arms just sank down. When I went to do the dips I could barely move - the week before I still had some energy left.

    Im bringing it up to 5 caps a day today - its the 9th day of HX2 and while I do feel the effects of lowered estrogen, I cant say as though I feel the effects of boosted testosterone all that much yet. Libido actually seems to be down - however ATD will do this to me as well if I go over 25mg.

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    this isn't ATD and shouldn't have the poor libido effect.....

    def go up to 5!
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    Day 10

    Arms + Delts

    Arnold Presses
    70s x 10
    70s x 10
    70s x 10

    One Arm Lateral Raises
    40 x 10
    45 x 10
    45 x 9

    DB Curls (dropsets)
    70s x 5 + 55s x 4
    70s x 4 + 55s x 4
    70s x 3 + 55s x 3 + 35s x 5

    EZ Bar Spider Curls
    75 x 12 (inner grip)
    75 x 12 (outer grip)
    75 x 10 (inner grip)
    75 x 8 (outer grip)

    Close Grip Bench (shoulder width)
    225 x 12
    225 x 10
    225 x 8

    Felt like I had a lot of power in the gym today, and a lot of energy. Strength was up a little bit.

    Here's a pic - no laughing I still got my winter coat on



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    nice physique, BV!

    def live up to your name!
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    nice physique, BV!

    def live up to your name!
    lol thanks bro I just need to lean out some more - a few months ago BF% was a percent or two lower but I felt weak as hell and I couldnt take it-hopefully the next cut will get me down below 10% for good.

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    so for 210lbs and above is the general consensus to use 5 caps per day instead of 4?
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    Seems to be tattoopierced - I ran 4 for ~10 days and havent felt much in the way of increased testosterone. Macedaddy - are you seeing this across the board for the 200lb+ guys?

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    cool.. if thats the case, I need to pickup another bottle of HDX2, around 230's right now and want to get to 240 by the end of summer...

    not to thread hijack, but I am going to run MASS FX with the HDX2, will I stick with the 4 caps per day on MASS FX or will I need to alter that a bit too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga View Post
    Seems to be tattoopierced - I ran 4 for ~10 days and havent felt much in the way of increased testosterone. Macedaddy - are you seeing this across the board for the 200lb+ guys?

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    generally 200+ SHOULD dose higher for BOTH products!
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    Day 11 - off

    Day 12 - Back + abs


    Cardio - 25 min - Glider

    Wide Grip Chins
    25, 10, 10

    DB Rows
    110s x 10
    110s x 10
    110s x 10

    Seated Bent Over Side Laterals
    35s x 8
    35s x 7
    35s x 7

    Hanging Leg Raise
    20,15,12

    Normally Ill do a 10 minute cardio warmup but we got these flat screen TV's attached to all the cardio machines now and South Park was on I needed the cardio anyway!

    Looked a lot more pumped up tonight than usual, I noticed. The cardio in the beginning kind of sapped my energy for the 1st few sets(didnt have the drive to do any weighted chins). But because my heart was already moving along at a good pace I got some wicked pumps!

    The 1st set of chins felt pretty easy, knocked off 25 without a problem. The DB Rows felt a little easier too...I think strength is definitely up from last week.

    Maybe bumping it up to 5 caps is doing the trick? Libido still seems a little off although the vivid 'fantasy' dreams continue...last night I dreamt I met this chick who looked kinda like my girl but was into death metal and Commodore 64 video games. What the hell was I supposed to do huh?

    It was so lucid that when I went to sleep in the dream, I woke up on my couch thinking I was dreaming.

    Could be the forskolii or cissus extract...I know each of those compounds has sent me into lucid dreamland before.

    Macedaddy - how concentrated is the Cissus Q. extract in HX2? (about how much 'standard' cissus would it be equal to?)

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    BV, according to contract language, we can't really give out the info about the cissus.....

    it is certianly pretty "potent" though!

    Sorry!
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    BV, according to contract language, we can't really give out the info about the cissus.....

    it is certianly pretty "potent" though!

    Sorry!
    Reason I asked is - really high dose cissus has always had one constant effect on me - an odd feeling of reduced libido and lower 'volume output' if you know what I mean. Like the drive is there, but I just dont feel like doing anything about it.

    That's the same feeling I got the first week on HX2 - reminded me exactly of the experiences Ive had with the 'Mega Dose Cissus' trial and also USP's Synergy product.

    Seems to be dissipating now though - moving to 5 caps a day seems to be kicking things into gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga View Post
    Seems to be dissipating now though - moving to 5 caps a day seems to be kicking things into gear.
    THATS REALLY GREAT NEWS!
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    Day 15

    Didnt make it to the gym over the weekend, had a bunch of family stuff to get done. Diet wasnt all that good either. I did do a nice complement of home training stuff - dunbell squats, concentration curls, pushups & situps,etc.

    Something interesting to note - I dont see my fiance all week, right now we're working in separate states and only spend time together on weekends. Normally, as soon as I see her I want to rip her clothes off. This friday, I had nearly no desire at all. (to the point of her asking me if something was wrong).

    So Saturday, I didnt take any HX2. Sunday morning, I woke up horny as hell.

    Still cant confirm that its the supp that's causing the libido loss but it just feels strinkingly similar to how I feel on a standard dose of ATD. Other 6-bromo products have not caused this effect...kinda wierd.

    Chest tonight with some squats to keep the legs moving...

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    Chest

    DB Incline Bench Press

    Set 1
    75s x 6 - 75 degrees
    10 sec rest
    75s x 6 - 45 degrees
    10 sec rest
    75s x 6 - 25 degrees
    10 sec rest
    75s x 6 - flat

    Set 2
    75s x 6 - 75 degrees
    10 sec rest
    75s x 6 - 45 degrees
    10 sec rest
    75s x 4 (fail) 75s x 2 - 25 degrees
    30 sec rest
    75s x 6 - flat

    Set 3
    75s x 6 - 75 degrees
    10 sec rest
    75s x 6 - 45 degrees
    10 sec rest
    75s x 4 (fail) + 75s x 2 - 25 degrees
    30 sec rest
    75s x 6 - flat

    Incline DB Flyes
    22,18,15 (35's)

    Dips
    20
    20
    20

    Strengh is up. Marginally, but its definitely up. I had more power and endurance on the multi-angular chest routine, and Ive moved up to 75's. 6 rep sets, but Im also using slower reps and going as deep as I can. Pump was pretty great, definite increase in fullness over the past week or so.

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    the pump effect has been reported by all testers, so it is working!

    the strength should come soon, i hope!
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    the pump effect has been reported by all testers, so it is working!

    the strength should come soon, i hope!
    Day 16

    Off from the gym today,

    25 min cardio on the tread mill afterwork. Low carbs today too - didnt get it tracked in fitday but right aroun 2700 calories, 250g+ of protien, < 100g carbs.

    I notice my endurance is also up quite a bit - I was running along at 7.5mph and it felt slow. Normally Im chugging along at ~6.5mph and that feels like a good workout.

    Dont know if I can attribute this to the HX2 - but its an interesting development.

    Starting to get some light acne on my face...hopefully due to a positive anabolic hormonal change.

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    Sorry for the delay in updates -

    Day 22

    Ive had a few workouts over the past 6 days - they've all been very good but nothing extraordinary as far as strength is concerned. Libido issues seem to have resolved themselves - I actually ended up dropping to 3 caps/day and that's when the HX2 started feeling good for me.

    At 4+ caps, I just seemed to be in a bad mood and felt kinda crappy. Im trying to think I couldnt be the supp - but its the only variable that was changing. 4+ caps - no sex drive felt like ass. 3 caps, everything's back to normal and I'm having some nice, but mild, strength improvements in the gym.

    As far as gym results go, here's what ive noticed so far:

    • 27 chins in one set last week - most ive done in a long time and +2 from the week before.
    • Grip strength has improved - I'm not using straps for anything other than deadlifts.
    • Squats feel easier every week
    • Very little DOMS despite some rather intense workouts.
    • Relatively steady, but small, improvement in strength over the past 3 weeks. ~5lb increase on most lifts.


    The increased recovery time is probably the biggest thing Ive noticed so far this trial - I can work my muscle till it fails and barely be sore in the following days.

    Diet/cardio has remained the same and BF% has remained the same - so no leaning effects that I can tell.

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    glad that the product is doing better for you....

    I have informed Dr. D of your comments for further testing/review!

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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    glad that the product is doing better for you....

    I have informed Dr. D of your comments for further testing/review!


    I find from reading the reviews that the "sweet spot" when supplementing with Bromo varies from individual to individual. Seems it can be too aggressive on estrogen sometimes when overdosed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    I find from reading the reviews that the "sweet spot" when supplementing with Bromo varies from individual to individual. Seems it can be too aggressive on estrogen sometimes when overdosed.
    yes, very true! Pumpingiron's sweet spot was 5 per day.......

    but it is interesting to file into the data bank to recognize people's issues so that we can make the proper recommendation in the future!
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    yes, very true! Pumpingiron's sweet spot was 5 per day.......

    but it is interesting to file into the data bank to recognize people's issues so that we can make the proper recommendation in the future!
    Definitely! 6-bromo seems to fall in line with what ive found with AI's in general for me - less is more.

    Should also mention that blood pressure has been fine throughout this test...

    Too bad I cant do my own bloodwork at home!

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    Day 30

    Had several good workouts in the final week of HX2. I wont list everything out, as its the same routine that Ive been doing all month.

    I moved up to 80's on the multiangular chest routine with is a 30lb gain from the beginning of the month. That's pretty much what I focused on the most and that's where i saw the best results.

    All other exercises have improved as well, about 5lbs on the average. Squat is up around 20lbs.

    Im also up 1lb and bodyfat is about the same - Ill take some pics later this evening. (not much of a difference, but I am a little bigger/fuller)

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    Final Update

    I've been off the HX2 for about a week now, so I think it's a good time to give you guys a final analysis:

    For me, HX2 had a definite anabolic effect but it was very mild. Perhaps because I only felt comfortable at a lower dose of 3 caps per day.

    Anything higher and I just felt really crappy, low libidio, irritable, etc. Which is odd - Ive used '6-brad' products in the past but never anything with the combination of ingredients that HX2 has.

    Now that Ive been off for a week, I notice my pumps arent nearly as good, and I have a little less endurance as well. On the hyperdrol it felt like my muscles were gonna explode which was nice

    Moderate strength gains, on par with what you'd expect on a month of CEE. Not much in the way of bodyrecomp effects, I did look and feel jacked all day long on the stuff but that's dissipated since Ive discontinued use.

    After I stopped taking the HX2, I looked like I was holding water for 3 - 4 days. Most likely a slight estrogen rebound which is expected.

    All in all, I think it's a good product. I just seemed to be overly sensitive to one of the herbal extracts in it so I wasnt able to use it to it's full potential. (I think its the Cissus extract, as high doses of Cissus Q have the exact same effect).

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