Primaforce 40% cissus
- 03-13-2007, 01:30 AM
- 03-13-2007, 09:06 AM
It has taken a while but, I'm starting to see improvement. My joints, especially my elbow, are wrecked. I'm more than half way through the bottle with a real evaluation still pending.
03-13-2007, 02:16 PM
03-13-2007, 02:35 PM
03-13-2007, 03:36 PM
I have achilles tendon pain and swelling also
I ordered some of the 40% cissus this last weekend and will let people know if it helps my rather severe achilles tendon problem -- it's been chronic for monthes now. Ordinary cissus helped a very small amount (pain lessening) at about 3 grams a day.
03-13-2007, 04:55 PM
I think you'll see the same as I did. It seems to work well for this problem. Everyone is different, though.
03-13-2007, 08:41 PM
03-14-2007, 12:36 AM
03-16-2007, 11:48 PM
After 2 days the Primeaforce cissus seems to be working, a reduction in pain and less swelling. But...I need a few more days and more results to convince me. I'm hopeful though, and thus far it looks good.
One things more certain, an important use of cissus is to prevent the start of tendon, ligament, and joint problems, and it can do that while allowing much more intense workouts without the usual damage to connective tissue. I've been able to increase my bicep workout intensity greatly without having problems with my inside elbow area that I use to get with increased intensity (intensity = heavier weight and fewer reps).
Last edited by tuberman; 03-16-2007 at 11:58 PM. Reason: added material
03-17-2007, 01:06 AM
03-17-2007, 01:22 AM
This is the analgesic effect so YOU SHOULD really reduce the load NOT increase the load.
I totally concur, I have been using super and the pain in my joints were reduced so it was tempting to increase poundages and intensity. Just take it slow, I try to really feel my way through a training session now, seems to help my pumps and concentration. I just got 2 bulk USPLABS cissus 5%. today from genera. Excited to give these a whirl. stay well
03-17-2007, 11:34 AM
I've taken that about as far as I wanted anyway, so cuting back on the heavy bicep work will be no problem.
Beyond the analgesic effect can the cissus actually help heal my chronic tendon? I know you're not a doc, but perhaps you could site studies.
03-17-2007, 10:32 PM
03-20-2007, 09:49 PM
03-23-2007, 09:18 PM
It's been a little over a week now and my tendon pain has been cut in half, but a long way from gone. Swelling has been reduced by about 30% I'd say.
That's about as good as I'd expected. I don't really know yet if the 40% cissus will allow healing in a couple or three months. I have high hopes though.
03-23-2007, 09:20 PM
03-24-2007, 03:22 PM
Please take note that I'm biased to our percentage. We been working with Cissus for over 2 years.
When you increase content of one compound in the herb you lose other compounds. IF I where to release our 95% keto extract, you would not get any other synergy from the compounds except an anabolic or anti catabolic response.
Cissus is fused with natural vitamins and minerals that provide a natural delivery system to the injured tissue. Cissus is working by several mechanism and by concentrating for just the keto content you lose the synergy. In research, the keto sterones reduce cortisol. There MANY cortisol lowering supplements that have no effect on joint health. The keto sterones in research have been proven more powerful than deca and d-bol. Is d-bol good for joints?no.
Many Many Many users get longterm relief from tendonitis and related injuries that do not return when they discontinue use.
The best dosing method is:
03-25-2007, 12:36 PM
Interesting input from USPLabs. Makes sense. I may try the new Supercissus to compare.
one thing I will note is that the old USPLabs 5% gave me nasty gas. The Primaforce 40% doesn't. I wonder if the 10% would? It was bad enough to stop me from taking it (shove a windmill up your ass and see how you like it, lol).
03-28-2007, 06:19 PM
Your post has inspired a simple idea for me, I still have 40 grams of bulk cissus, so I intend to add a gram of the bulk cissus to the other 40% cissus twice a day to give me something like a more "full spectrum" cissus, I still have 19-20 days of the supplement left. I may try Super Cissus afterwards.
The tendon has gotten a little better these last 3 days.
I left you a PM about exchanging info on another topic (if you're interested). Right now, I've gotta
03-28-2007, 08:15 PM
I've been using the 40% along with Elastamine for 4 days now. Nothing to report just yet, maybe a bit of pain relief.
03-30-2007, 06:39 AM
I had complete healing of my left elbow which had bad 'tennis elbow" pain with USPLabs cissus. I tried bulk powder type and did nothing.
I have NOTHING to do with
USPLabs but find their brand worked very well. It was either that or bee stings lol (actually I know a guy who had bee "therapy" and worked great but no way I was going to try that).
I mention USPS just incase your current brand doesnt do what you expect.
04-16-2007, 08:31 PM
04-16-2007, 08:49 PM
I love it. I am using it during PCT and it is going great. No joint paint whatsoever and I am getting stronger.
04-18-2007, 02:05 PM
This past October I had surgery on my knee after a soccer injury. My ACL was torn and all the tendons ripped off the fibula, but from what the doctors told me this was a blessing as opposed to a possible amputation of my leg from the knee down....so I have been in physical therapy from November until now, and I am walking everything is great. However now that we are working on agility, strength, and balance it seems that it is very quick to tighten up and swell. I bought some bulk Cissus but havent taken any consistently. What would you guys suggest to help me with some swelling? Also if I supplement with Cissus can I expect some other benefits aside from helping my knee?
*note I also take two other products called Zyflamend and Mycomend from New Chapter that should help with inflammation.
Thanks for any help!
04-25-2007, 01:44 AM
04-25-2007, 12:07 PM
I have a buddy that just got his ACL reattached. Anyone with info on how much Cissus would help? I already told him I would be mega dosing it, but I (and he) would like to here some first hand experience with post surgery healing.
04-25-2007, 12:16 PM
04-25-2007, 07:42 PM
I talked to my buddy today, and he was saying the same thing. Them screws did a number on him as well. He was told by the doc that there wasn't really blood flow to the tendon for quite some time after the surgery. (like months) So I wasn't sure how the cissus would actively help heal. What was the issue with bone growth? Did it slow bone growth?
04-25-2007, 08:08 PM
04-25-2007, 09:43 PM
Good luck to you as well, on a somewhat ironic note, he injured himself the same way as you. I will make it a point not to play soccer.
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