Kwick Karb feedback thread
- 02-01-2007, 05:46 PM
Kwick Karb feedback thread
Since I got mine today i wanted to start the thread FOr me all I have to compare it too was TP's WMS i mixed it with crystal light and bcaa's im poudning it down now on it now
dont typically mix it with protein but im gonna mix some in 30 min with AI peanut butter protein :bruce3:
- 02-01-2007, 05:51 PM
another thing to note is the texture
this packs and scoops much better then my other brand
my other brand when i scoop it is so light and fluffy it flies everywhere i can scoop this and it packs nicely in the scoop then flops into the container
02-01-2007, 06:12 PM
02-01-2007, 11:01 PM
02-02-2007, 12:50 AM
Question - How exactly are you taking and dosing this?
I was thinking:
Right after finishing my last rep:
40 Grams of WMS
15-20 Minutes Later:
1/2 Cup of Oats
2 Scoops of Whey
02-02-2007, 05:10 AM
02-02-2007, 07:59 AM
the way I use it and always have
right after last rep 50 grams of WMS with bcaa's and creatine. but in order to maintain WMS speed of digestion u cant weigh it down with too much add ons or it will cause a jmp in blood sugar. and slow digestion
anecdotal feedback states keep your add ons to less then 30% of total mixture and keep your water intake high.
i grabbed enough of this to experiment with it. im gonna try some before during and after training to guage puumps and what not.
haiz your layout looks good id bump to 50 grams
02-02-2007, 07:59 AM
02-02-2007, 11:54 AM
02-02-2007, 06:45 PM
im my personal opinion u can never go wrong with oats and whey the nutritional value alone is great.
but it is just my opinion
02-02-2007, 08:56 PM
02-02-2007, 11:00 PM
02-03-2007, 12:10 PM
The protocol that was laid out for me was too keep the ratio of WMS:"other stuff" at 3:1. So if you are going w/ 75g WM keep the other stuff at 25g or less. Going to high essentially will block the WM from passing quickly through the gut which defeats the purpose of using it. Get your whole protein/slow digesting carbs like 45 mintues later. 1/2 cup oats 2 scoops whey should be good.
02-05-2007, 08:23 PM
02-07-2007, 12:06 AM
do u guys throw in your creatine with WMS cuz of the absorption or its jus what u do .. cause I take my CEE pre-workout
02-07-2007, 01:54 AM
02-07-2007, 02:34 PM
so you guys only take the WMS post workout... im really jus tryna get a handle on how people are taking or what the prefered way of taking this stuff is
02-10-2007, 12:34 AM
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02-11-2007, 04:26 AM
02-11-2007, 10:06 AM
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02-11-2007, 12:08 PM
02-18-2007, 04:41 PM
I take 2 scoops post workout, so I guess I'm getting close to 80 grams. Anyone think that's too much? I'f taken as much as 1 scoop pre and 2 post, but have ditched the pre now that I'm cutting.
The main reason being is that I'm using leviathan (which contains yohimbine) pre, and I've read many places that insulin completely blunts the fat burning effects of yohimbine.
02-18-2007, 07:38 PM
02-18-2007, 10:50 PM
Usually, post, I'll mix 2 scoops w/ 1 scoop of Xpand (not the energized variety) in a blender bottle. I'll drink it right down, then refill the bottle w/ water and drink it on my way home.
20 or so mins later I'll have 2 scoops of WPI mixed w/ 2 scoops (equivilant to 1/p cup of oats before being ground) of ground up oatmeal.
A little less than an hr. later I'll usually have a bowl of Barilla Plus pasta. That's my favorite post workout meal.
02-19-2007, 10:57 AM
45-60 mins later have 2 scoop of Milk Protein Isolate or 1 scoop of WPI,1 scoop of Caseinate with 40-50 grams carbs.
1 hr. later a meal with 30-40 grams pro/ 22-30 grams carb and some epa/dha.Researchers at the Center for Exercise, Nutrition, and Preventive Health at Baylor University decided to study the effects of whey protein supplementation over ten weeks of heavy-resistance training. Three groups of supplements were assigned to thirty-six male subjects in a double blind manner.
(For newer readers, double-blind, placebo controlled studies are the gold standard in research. Since neither researchers nor subjects know what supplement they're getting, everyone involved is forced to be more objective.)
Had you been participating in the study, your daily supplement package would've been one of the following:
1) 40g whey protein plus 8g of casein (WC)
2) 40g of whey, 3g branched-chain amino acids, plus 5g L-glutamine (WBG)
3) Or you may have gotten screwed and received 48g of carb placebo
At zero, five, and ten weeks, researchers would've benchmarked or examined the effects of the supplementation, testing your strength, endurance, anaerobic capacity, body composition, and ability to attract women. (Okay, not that last one!) Then you would've had blood drawn, gotten blasted with X-rays (dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry, a.k.a. DEXA), and been tested for 1 rep max bench and leg press. Next they would've stripped the bar down to 80% of your 1RM and had you rep to failure. Lastly, you'd have been subjected to a 30 second Wingate anaerobic capacity test.
No matter what supplement group you were in (even placebo!) you would have experienced significant increases in 1RM bench and leg press strength after ten weeks. However, greatest gains in fat-free mass and DEXA lean mass would have come to those in the whey-casein group.
Let's look at the numbers. After ten weeks, the placebo group gained an average of zero pounds of lean mass. The whey, amino, glutamine group actually lost 0.2 pounds, and the whey/casein group gained 4.1 pounds of lean mass!
The whey/casein cat is out of the bag. If you want the greatest gains, go with the whey/casein blend. [J Strength Cond Res. 2006 Aug;20(3):643-53]
02-19-2007, 12:08 PM
Has anyone here tried WMS during their workout. I just ordered some and plan to put ~50g in my workout drink(BCAA, Beta-Alanine and DiCreatine Malate). Then once I finish I eat a real meal 30 mins after I finish. But anyway, just wondering if anyone has tried this and how they like it?
02-19-2007, 07:38 PM
02-19-2007, 08:17 PM
02-19-2007, 08:30 PM
today I took some about 1.5 hrs before my lift i took in about 50 grams lus 15 grams or so of bcaa's i had a pump unlike any other during my rep range chest workout bt im also pissing ev ery 5 minutes lol
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