thesinner's F-*-*-K recomp stack
01-11-2007 07:45 PM
thesinner's F-*-*-K recomp stack
I really like the acronym here:
Formestane - 100 mg TD
Urtica dioica (Nettle)- 1200 mg ED
Cordyceps- 1.6 g ED (Pre-loaded for 10 days)
Ketones (Raspberry Ketones) 200 ED (100 TD, 100 orally)
I plan on starting this plan on Monday, Jan 15th, and going to about valentine's day.Basically, have the weekend to tell me that I'm an idiot, and that criticize my recomp plan.
Training will go as follows:
Thursday: Back & Biceps
Friday: Chest & Triceps
Cardio will vary between jumping rope, HIIT on the treadmill (by time intervals), HIIT on the elliptical machine (by time and resistance intervals), HIIT on bleachers or track (by distance intervals), and long jogs.
Though there's not too much synergy going on here, I mostly wanted to experiment with formestane and nettle as a more potent alternative to the NHA stack. Cordyceps was added to the mix because it has a plethora of benefits. From what I have read cordyceps has been shown to increase LH, cAMP, ATP, insulin sensitivity, VO2 max, and many more adaptogenic benefits. All in all, I'm hoping that cordy is not a hoax of an adaptogen, and that it will help me get those extra reps out. Raspberry ketones were simply added to create a thermic effect for burning a few extra calories.
So feel free to subscribe, critique, or tell me to go f*ck myself.
01-11-2007 07:47 PM
rollin' on dubs!
sub-didley-scribed. interesting combo and im looking forward to the feedback. youre a pretty smart guy as well and i enjoy reading your insightful posts. good luck with this!
01-11-2007 07:49 PM
Title catches the attention! Will watch this one.
01-11-2007 08:44 PM
Definitely a good title, I'm all in.
~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
01-11-2007 08:47 PM
01-11-2007 08:54 PM
Formestane!!!! Nooo way... I'm still waiting on that from Nutra... I really like the combo you've got going and plan on something similar... Formestane, 7Keto, Raspberry Ketones and some PEA/Hordenine
01-11-2007 09:01 PM
I'm hoping this log will help motivate them into getting some form.
Originally Posted by mrmoose63
01-15-2007 09:18 AM
RK mixed in Penetrate smells kind of like it could double as a female fragrance.
Today is MLK day, and for some reason the gym I go to is closed on MLK day but not Good Friday or Easter. You try and figure it out.
Anyhow, Today I did a long run. Don't want to tire my legs out too much because I've got legs tomorrow.
01-16-2007 08:23 AM
Decent Leg day today.
Took the cordy & nettle 45 minutes Pre-workout, and then some BCAA's 15 minutes pre-workout.
My lifting looked like this:
Front Squat: 205*12 225*8 245*6 (PR)
Normal Squat: 275*8 275*8 315*3
Sissy Hack Squats: 12th pin*12 15th pin*9 17th pin*5 18th pin*12
Step Back Lunges (with DB's): 60*9 60*8 70*3 70*2
Seated Leg Curls: 175*11 200*8 200*8 225*4 (PR)
Weights increased for seated leg curls and Front Squats. The number of reps I was able to perform went up in all of the lifts.
I think the cordy is starting to take effect, as I felt a lot more energized after this workout than last week.
01-17-2007 07:49 AM
Shoulder's Day went like this:
High Pulls: 155*12 185*8 185*6 205*3
Push Press: 155*15 185*6 185*7 205*2
Seated DB Press: 60's*12 65's*10 70's*4
Side Lateral Raise: 40*12 45*10 50*5
Rear Delt Lateral Raise: 30*15 40*12 45*6
Reverse Pec Deck: 150*15 150*13
01-18-2007 09:15 AM
Back & Biceps workout:
Rack Pulls: 365*8 365*8 385*5 405*3
Barbell Rows: 225*10 245*7 265*5 275*3
T-Bar Rows: 160*11 180*5 180*5
Wide-Grip Pulldown: 200*11 200*10 225*7
Barbell Curls: 135*9 145*6 145*5
1-Arm Nautilus Curls: 70*15 80*10 90*8 90*8
01-18-2007 01:27 PM
rollin' on dubs!
any first impressions of this stack yet? it looks like it caters much more to preserve mass rather than dropping bodyfat. has it been proven that RK in a transdermal has the same effects of cap? anyways, your workouts look to be pretty good. keep at it!
01-18-2007 01:48 PM
On the first few applications, I could feel a warming sensation with the RK TD, but haven't really noticed it today. It may have just been my skin adjusting to the transdermal. I'm not really sure how RK compares orally vs. TD. That's kinda why I decided to take it through both routes. In theory, TD would be great as it would pass directly through the fatty layer of the skin to give off its HSL potentiating effect.
Preservation of mass is sort of my goal, as a recomp, I'm trying to slim down without really losing any weight. So far I've lost about 2lbs since last Friday.
The one thing I'm definitely noticing is my work capacity has just skyrocketed. I'm lifting more weight for more reps, it's really quite awesome. Today I rack pulled 405 (what I maxed out at last week) for 3 full reps! At the end of the week, I'll post a breakdown comparing my lifts from last week to this week, to quantify the ergogenic effects of this stack.
01-18-2007 01:50 PM
Hahahaha, looks like one of the mods saw past my hyphens.
MOD EDIT: For the record, I like it but those at work surfing might not!
thesinner Edit: I hear ya, I thought about sensoring it myself, but wanted to see how long it would take before someone editted it.
01-19-2007 08:26 AM
Felt some pretty awesome pumps today, more pumped than usual. My muscle definition is starting to come back, and I'm seeing more of my abs.
Bodyweight today: 186.5 lbs
Chest and Triceps workout went as below:
Incline Bench: 225*14 245*10 255*5 255*4 265*3
Decline Bench: 245*15 265*9 275*6 295*2
Close-Grip Bench: 155*13 185*9 185*8 205*5
Pec Deck: 175*16 200*12 225*8 225*8
One-Arm Cable Pushdown: 50*15 60*12 70*9
01-20-2007 12:02 PM
Today was another off day. I was kind of disappointed that I couldn't do stairs today (due to icy conditions) so I did another long jog. I ran 3 more blocks than I did last time, in less time than last time. This stack has been great for building endurance.
I've also been noticing increased acne along my shoulders and upper back, as well as those annoyingly deep ones that put up a fight when you try to pop them. I'd been working on one on the tip of my nose for 3 days, and it finally popped (more like catastrophic explosion) today. Blood, puss, zit juice, and I think even a pair of boots splattered across my bathroom mirror. Needless to say, it was an awesome spectacle, and I wish I had a video of it to share with you.
As promised, the attached spreadsheet compares my lifts from this week to last week. (see attachments)
01-20-2007 12:18 PM
I like the log. Subscribed... I am intrigued by formestane. I don't think I have seen a log including is while not on cycle... Should by very interesting
01-20-2007 04:46 PM
Apparently, the members of this forum underestimate the power of formestane as a standalone supp. I've used it in the past during cuts, and prefer it to atd or 6-trione.
Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego
01-20-2007 05:25 PM
Originally Posted by thesinner
I will definately try some in the future
01-21-2007 10:45 AM
'nother distance jog today. Ran 6 blocks more than yesterday, and feelin' fine. Definitely savin' up my pennies for when dsade gets his high potency cordy in.
Tomorrow I start my new weekly routine. I'm changing the exercises I do every two weeks, so leg day tomorrow will be different from leg day for the past two weeks.
I was running a reaction in synthesis lab got me thinking about raspberry ketones (4-(4-hydroxyphenyl) butan-2-one). Ketones react readily with acids, so would a phenol (like the 4-hydroxyphenyl group). I'm wondering if this hydrolysis could be minimizing it's lipolytic effects. Here's all pubmed was able to give me about RK metabolism Entrez PubMed I can't really make any sense of what it's getting at. Not trying to hijack my own thread, but just wondering if a chemical manipulation could be used to potentiate the effects of RK.
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