E V O L U T I O N: Grunt becomes ... What???

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Grunt76
    I think it would be a nice addition but it would do nothing for my shoulder, which absolutely requires surgery before it can handle any kind of weights. Most of my shoulder ligaments are torn off the bones, it's held in place by a couple of them and mostly muscle...
    Ouch, How did you do that? I must have missed the cause somewhere.


  2. Damn man. I didn't realize your injury was that bad still. When are you going to have the surgery done?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Grunt76
    Yep. My wrecked shoulder can't handle any heavy weight and I get a bit crazy that way when I am on. I would rather not completeley tear my arm off until they repair it. So I am staying natural. For now.


    Its not illegal to be natural

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Mach .78
    Ouch, How did you do that? I must have missed the cause somewhere.
    Bicycle crash back in late May when I also broke both my forearms.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV
    Damn man. I didn't realize your injury was that bad still. When are you going to have the surgery done?
    I have yet to find a surgeon who will be able to do it this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by FitnFirm
    Its not illegal to be natural
    Meh, around here it isn't illegal the other way around either! Call me crazy but I like my gear... This evolution stuff isn't bad though...
  5. Day 17: Thighs & Calves


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is 3 minutes between sets.


    *Leg Press 360x8, 360x7, 360x6
    Split Squat Smith 55x8+8, 75x8+8, 95x8+6
    SLDL Toes Raised 185x10, 195x8 205x8
    Leg Extension 160x10, 200x6
    Leg Curl 130x8, 130x6
    *Calf Raise 225x14, 225x16
    Bodyweight 224.5 (+7.5)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 10:30AM, 1 cap @ 7PM, 1 cap @ 12:30AM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 10:30AM, 1 cap @ 7PM, 1 cap @ 12:30AM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 10:30AM, 1 cap @ 12:30AM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,276
    Consumed: 3,712
    Macronutrient breakdown: 41% protein (397g), 28% carbs, 30% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Whoa, many good things to report on today: workout was strong, almost every lift improved from last week. Endurance seems normal. Diet was pretty much spot-on for a normal bulk. Firing on all cylinders here.
  6. Day 18: Rest


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 11AM, 1 cap @ 7PM, 1 cap @ midnight
    Restore: 1 cap @ 11AM, 1 cap @ 7PM, 1 cap @ midnight
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 11AM, 1 cap @ midnight



    CALORIES

    Expended: 2,541
    Consumed: 2,912
    Macronutrient breakdown: 39% protein (298g), 29% carbs, 31% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Well-deserved rest day. Acne and genital perkiness have both gradually increased since starting this run. The acne is far from bad, just a small sign of a more androgenic state.
  7. Day 19: Arms & Abs


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is 3 minutes between sets.


    Tricep Pressdown 100x10, 120x5, 125x2
    *45 Barbell Arm Extension 55x7, 50x6
    Cable Crunch 185x16, 195x14
    Reverse Crunch 14, 10
    Standing Alt. Dumbell Curl 60x8, 65x5, 70x3
    Hammer Curl 60x5, 65x3
    *Spider Curl (vertical preacher EZ) 69x6 64x8
    Bodyweight 223.5 (+6.5)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 7:30PM, 1 cap @ Midnight
    Restore: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 7:30PM, 1 cap @ Midnight
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 7:30PM, 1 cap @ Midnight



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,080
    Consumed: 3,609
    Macronutrient breakdown: 33% protein (285g), 44% carbs, 23% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Another strong workout. I have discovered today that heavy pressdowns really disagree with my injured shoulder. For a few hours after doing them, I had a pretty intense pain running from my shoulder down my upper arm, to my elbow and even into the upper forearm.
  8. Day 20: Delts, Traps & Calves


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is 3 minutes between sets.


    Upright Rowing 140x8, 150x5, 160x3
    Dumbell Military Press 60x10, 70x5, 75x3
    Bent-Over Laterals 50x8, 55x6, 60x4
    *Barbell Front Raise 30x7, 30x5
    *Dumbell Shrug 90x8, 95x6, 90x6
    *Calf Raise 225x14, 225x12
    Bodyweight 223.5


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ noon, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ midnight
    Restore: 1 cap @ noon, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ midnight
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ noon, 1 cap @ midnight



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,368
    Consumed: 4,135
    Macronutrient breakdown: 38% protein (399g), 34% carbs, 28% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Strong workout, things are going well.
  9. Day 21: Back & Triceps


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is 3 minutes between sets.


    Dumbell Rowing 125x8, 135x6, 135x4
    Wide-Grip Chin-Up 6, 5, 4
    *Body Rowing 8, 7, 6,
    Reverse Hyperextension 30x8, 30x8, 30x7
    Skull Crusher 85x10, 85x9 85x8
    *Reverse-Grip Cable Extension 50x8, 55x7
    Bodyweight 225 (+8)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 5PM, 1 cap @ 12:30AM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 5PM, 1 cap @ 12:30AM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 12:30AM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,114
    Consumed: 3,640
    Macronutrient breakdown: 38% protein (344g), 31% carbs, 31% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Good workout, even though I forgot to bring my program. I still remembered which exercises to do, and in what order. I tried doing some close-grip bench for my triceps, which WAS on the program, but my shoulder doesn't like that. It seems more prone to pain since my failed attempt at 245 a couple weeks back. So I did skull crushers and slo-mo reverse cable extensions.
  10. Day 22: Rest


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 1AM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 1AM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 1AM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 2,803
    Consumed: 3,271
    Macronutrient breakdown: 33% protein (275g), 28% carbs, 39% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Lotsa peanut butter. Out of sustenance protein powder. My 25lb order will only come in ... 4 days, so it seems.
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  11. Day 23: Biceps & Chest


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is ~2 minutes between sets because I was pressed for time.


    EZ Bar curl 106x10, 116x5, 131x1
    *Concentration curl 30x6, 30x6
    *Flat Barbell Bench Press 135x8, 135x6, 135x5
    *Incline Dumbell Press 50x8, 50x6, 45x6
    Cable crossover 75x10
    Incline Dumbell Flye 45x8
    Bodyweight 222.5 (+5.5)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 11:30AM, 1 cap @ 6:30PM, 1 cap @ 1AM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 11:30AM, 1 cap @ 6:30PM, 1 cap @ 1AM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 11:30AM, 1 cap @ 1AM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,192
    Consumed: 3,669
    Macronutrient breakdown: 33% protein (292g), 41% carbs, 26% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Roommate is letting me have some of her protein powder until my order arrives.

    I was pressed for time but overall I feel this was a very good workout. I seem bigger everywhere. I lost a few pounds real quick. Weird.
  12. Day 24: Thighs and Calves


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is 3 minutes between sets.


    *Leg Presss 270x10, 315x8, 360x6
    SLDL Toes Raised 205x8, 225x8, 235x6
    DB Split Squat 55x8+6, 60x6+6, 65x4+4
    Leg Curl 115x8, 130x2+115x3
    Leg Extension 200x10, 200x8
    *Calf Raise 225x15, 225x14
    Bodyweight 223 (+6)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ Noon, 1 cap @ 6:30PM, 1 cap @ 1AM
    Restore: 1 cap @ Noon, 1 cap @ 6:30PM, 1 cap @ 1AM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ Noon, 1 cap @ 1AM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,369
    Consumed: 3,462
    Macronutrient breakdown: 33% protein (298g), 36% carbs, 30% fat



    OBSERVATIONS
    Good workout. Weight increases on most exercises.

    Mood: Quite normal, but I do seem to have a shorter fuse, a bit. Nothing like tren or even a good dose of testosterone, but a slight bit more aggressiveness.

    Energy: well it does seem that my adrenal glands are completely burnt out. When my broken bones were mending back in the summer, I was always feeling extremely lethargic. I was told that it was normal that I would feel tired, but I had been injured before and this had nothing to do with it. And it kept on keeping on. At first I blamed my low testosterone levels but it did not add up. So that's where I am. I sleep 12h a night, and sometimes have to nap during the day but I don't think that has anything to do with the stack. Good thing I work from home.

  13. nice log as always grunt. +6lbs. Are you holding water? Just asking because you dropped a few real quick there.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by jonesboy
    nice log as always grunt. +6lbs. Are you holding water? Just asking because you dropped a few real quick there.
    No I am just fat. It is nothing unusual for me to get +/- 3 lbs in a day or two. I don't know why/how, but that has always been the case with me.

    I am definitely bigger in terms of muscle though. I can't wait to take measurements, which will happen at day 30 about a week from now.

    This stuff is like nothing I have ever tried. You don't feel it at all, well *I* don't. The mood/energy differences are pretty unnoticeable, and the rest is quite unchanged. But the gains are real. So guys who have used AAS in the past may be disappointed with this stuff because it does not feel like gear. But, again, the gains are nothing to sniff at.

    Full recap and conclusions in about a week.
  15. Day 25: Rest


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 2,492
    Consumed: 3,427
    Macronutrient breakdown: 22% protein (189g), 34% carbs, 45% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Rest felt good.
  16. Day 25: Rest


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 2,492
    Consumed: 3,427
    Macronutrient breakdown: 22% protein (189g), 34% carbs, 45% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Rest felt good. Diet was sloppy.
  17. Day 26: Abs & Arms


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is 3 minutes between sets.


    Skull Crushers 85x12, 100x10, 110x5
    BB triceps ext/CG press 80x8, 90x7
    *Kick-Back 20x7, 15x8
    Dumbell Curl Seated 50x8, 55x5, 60x2
    *Supinated Concentration Curl 30x8, 30x8
    Ball Crunch 17, 15, 16
    Reverse Crunch 12, 10, 8
    Bodyweight 225.5 (+8.5)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 5PM, 1 cap @ midnight
    Restore: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 5PM, 1 cap @ midnight
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ midnight



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,106
    Consumed: 3,593
    Macronutrient breakdown: 25% protein (223g), 36% carbs, 39% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Very strong workout. As a matter of fact, I set a personal record with the skull crushers. I had never used 110 and I did 5 good controlled deeeeeep reps as I always do everything that way. I reorganized my triceps training around the limitations of my shoulder. Biceps were not particularly strong, only repeating the usual weights and reps. Diet was again sloppy but I expect to get more protein today so it should improve markedly now.
  18. Day 27: Rest (unscheduled)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 11:45PM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 11:45PM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 10AM, 1 cap @ 11:45PM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 2,492
    Consumed: 3,130
    Macronutrient breakdown: 33% protein (260g), 48% carbs, 18% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Lethargy and being very busy had me staying in and not training.
  19. Day 28: Delts, Traps & Calves


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is 3 minutes between sets.


    Barbell Military Press Smith 145x10, 165x5, 175x3
    Close-Grip Upright Rowing 135x10, 155x5, 175x4
    *Reverse Pec Deck 105x8, 120x6, 115x8
    *DB Side Lateral Raises 25x8, 25x8
    *Barbell Shrug 185x8, 185x8, 185x7
    *Calf Raise 225x13, 225x12
    Bodyweight 230 (+13)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 9AM, 1 cap @ 5PM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 9AM, 1 cap @ 5PM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 9AM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,352
    Consumed: 2,934
    Macronutrient breakdown: 32% protein (224g), 33% carbs, 36% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Uh... 230lbs??? I had noticed that I look bigger. Wider, more massive, not fatter at all, if anything I have lost a bit of fat since the middle of this log. This stuff feels like nothing at all but it does the job. Most compound exercises were 10lbs heavier than last time, too. And it was kinda easy. My endurance is not very good but strength and mass are doing very well. Day 29 is also going to be an unscheduled rest day. I'm feeling very lethargic over the last few days.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Grunt76
    Uh... 230lbs??? I had noticed that I look bigger. Wider, more massive, not fatter at all, if anything I have lost a bit of fat since the middle of this log. This stuff feels like nothing at all but it does the job. Most compound exercises were 10lbs heavier than last time, too. And it was kinda easy. My endurance is not very good but strength and mass are doing very well. Day 29 is also going to be an unscheduled rest day. I'm feeling very lethargic over the last few days.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

    Dats my big boy its commom for BF to go down while gaining size on this stack. You seem to be doing very well !
  21. Day 29: Rest (unscheduled)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 9:30AM, 1 cap @ 5PM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 9:30AM, 1 cap @ 5PM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 9:30AM, 1 cap @ 11:30PM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 2,544
    Consumed: 3,413
    Macronutrient breakdown: 37% protein (309g), 41% carbs, 21% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Feeling a bit off. Caffeine withdrawal most probably.
  22. Day 30: Triceps and back


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is 3 minutes between sets.


    Skull Crusher 100x8, 110x5, 115x2
    *Cable Triceps Extension 60x8, 60x8
    Bent-Over Row 215x8, 235x5, 255x3
    Narrow-Grip Chin-Up 6, 5, 4
    *Wide-Grip pulldown 135x8, 135x8, 135x7
    *Cable Rowing 120x8, 120x8, 105
    Bodyweight 228 (+11)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 10:30AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 1AM
    Restore: 1 cap @ 10:30AM, 1 cap @ 6PM, 1 cap @ 1AM
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 10:30AM, 1 cap @ 1AM



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,153
    Consumed: 3,190
    Macronutrient breakdown: 41% protein (313g), 34% carbs, 26% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    I did the skull crushers again. My shoulder is limiting the exercises I can do, so I get to hit some particular ones more than I would prefer but it's all I can do. I repeated my personal bests of last time and then some. Every exercise was better than last go around.

    I will take pictures tomorrow as well as measurements in the morning. I will also report on strength gains. Pictures will not show up tomorrow though, because my digital camera is broken so I have to take them with a disposable camera and get the pics developed and scanned. Or maybe get a basic digital and use that, we'll see.

  23. How would you describe your overall body composition change at this point? Great log man, its been a good read.
    My The 1 LOG: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/254164-my-one-log.html

  24. Quote Originally Posted by motiv8er
    How would you describe your overall body composition change at this point? Great log man, its been a good read.
    I would say that I kept the same amount of bodyfat, or lost 1-2 pounds of it. Which would put my LBM gains at over 10lbs, downright fantastic for this kind of product.

    But wait, I will be extending this log since ALRI has chosen me to receive another set of bottles. To tell you the truth, it seems to improve over time, so I am pretty pumped for this next run.
  25. 30 day recap: Measurements and strength



    STRENGTH CHANGES

    My training is on a double 5-day split, which I usually perform on a 2 days on/1 day off schedule. For this reason, the strength changes are all over a 2-week span, and NOT 4 weeks, sadly. But since I will be continuing this test over 4 more weeks, there will be plenty of time to correctly assess changes.

    Because my training has sets that are of 8, 5, and 3 reps, I calculated the difference between one time and the next for all 3 sets, then averaged this number.

    Cable Tricep Extension +10.00
    Upright Rowing +5.00
    Dumbell Rowing +10.00
    EZ Bar curl +10.00
    Barbell Military Press Smith +10.00
    Skull Crusher +15.00
    *Leg Press -30.00

    *I have performed only two leg workouts during this test. I had a leg day just before beginning and my next training day will be legs. My last leg day happened to be pretty awful, as I had not eaten in many hours. I do not feel that I have lost strength there.



    MEASUREMENT CHANGES

    Well, I was saying that I think I look bigger and didn't gain much fat or perhaps lost a little bit. The measurements confirm this. Sadly, it will be a few days until I have my pictures since they were taken with a disposable camera and will need to be developed. My digital has died. So anyways here are my measurement changes and graph:

    . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/28/2006 . . 1/26/2007 . . Change
    Bodyweight . . . . . . 217.0 . . . . . 228.0 . . . . +11.00
    forearm . . . . . . . . . 14.25 . . . . . 14.75 . . . . +0.50
    arm . . . . . . . . . . .. 17.50 . . . . . 18.50 . . . . +1.00
    deltoid . . . . . . . . .. 18.75 . . . . . 19.75 . . . . +1.00
    bellybutton . . . . . .. 37.50 . . . . . 37.00 . . . . -0.50
    thigh . . . . . . . . . .. 26.00 . . . . . 27.00 . . . . +1.00
    calf . . . . . . . . . . .. 18.00 . . . . . 18.00 . . . . +0.00




    CONCLUSIONS

    Over the course of the last month, thanks to the Evolution stack, I have seen my bodyweight go up, my body composition improving, my strength increase and my muscle mass undeniably increase significantly. As a matter of fact, a lean gain of 11lbs in a month is downright a GREAT gain, especially for a natural product.

    I must attribute part of these gains to muscle memory though. How much, that remains the question, but I must admit that I was unable to see any gains at all just before starting this stack so obviously it does something right. The product doesn't feel like anything, so if you are taking this as a steroid alternative you might get a bit disappointed. Not with the size and strength that you gain, which are very good, but with the inexistant aggressiveness boost or endurance emprovement. If anything I have lost some of these last two during this last month. Other factors may be involved though, as I have been experiencing some health problems that began before I received these supplements in case you were wondering. I didn't think they would affect my performance with these products but in retrospect I feel it is possible that they may have.

    I feel that this stack is great for those who need to stay natural and also - let us not forget - for PCT when EVERYONE is natural. I give the evolution stack an 8/10, which is excellent in my book. If endurance were improved as much as mass and strength, it would be a 10.

  26. Thanks Grunt. Excellent log, as always. Reps to you (after I spread more around)
    Recent log:http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213350-lean-efx-refined.html

  27. Are you ok Grunt? Im worried about you

  28. Quote Originally Posted by FitnFirm View Post
    Are you ok Grunt? Im worried about you
    Uh, yeah, Hahaha... Actually I posted up an update on the other boards yesterday but this one kinda died on me when I tried to.

    In other news, I now have Private Message privileges?
  29. Day 35: Thighs and calves


    WORKOUT

    * designates exercises where a 6 second TUT rep is accomplished. 3 full seconds down, 3 full seconds up.
    Rest is 3 minutes between sets.


    *Leg Press 360x8, 405x6, 450x6
    Split Squat Smith 105x8+8, 105x8+6, 105x8+4
    SLDL Toes Raised 205x8, 225x5, 225x8
    Leg Extension 200x10, 200x8
    Leg Curl 145x8, 130x8
    *Calf Raise 225x14, 225x12
    Bodyweight 231 (+14)


    SUPPLEMENT DOSAGES

    Jungle warfare: 1 cap @ 11AM, 1 cap @ 3:30PM, 1 cap @ 6:30PM, 1 cap @ Midnight
    Restore: 1 cap @ 11AM, 1 cap @ 3:30PM, 1 cap @ 3:30PM, 1 cap @ Midnight
    Bad Ass Mass: 1 cap @ 11AM, 1 cap @ 3:30PM, 1 cap @ Midnight



    CALORIES

    Expended: 3,231
    Consumed: 4,232
    Macronutrient breakdown: 38% protein (402g), 35% carbs, 26% fat



    OBSERVATIONS

    Hi! It's me Grunt. Long time no see huh? Well, I been busy. For a while I had known that I have gallstones and a fairly urgent need to get rid of them. Gallstones are asymptomatic until it's too late, you can't eat and your digestive system is basically shot, and they have to remove your gallbladder. Well, none of that for me. I know I have them, so I took the steps to get rid of them. So I did a liver flush, which yielded about 50 stones of " in diameter or more. The flush I did requires a bit of a preparation and does put you out of commission for a bit. Also on one day you eat almost only carbs, save for a full cup of olive oil at night. Yum. So I didn't log that because mostly I was not feeling up to it.

    So I kept taking the supplements but who knows what I ate during that time. It was low calories. Also, I decided to increase the dosage of these supplements to see if I can get some of the boosts in aggressiveness and endurance that the others report.

  30. Grunt, I'd be interested to know how you went about getting rid of your gallstones. I know I've got them too, and its only a matter of time before I've got to have my gallbladder removed. Care to share what you did?
  

  
 

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