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  1. Thanks for the update. How would you rate this stuff compared to the other OTCs?


  2. Grunt76,

    Assuming you mean the havoc i would say way up there (9-10) from 1-10.

    Day 12 PCT (second day JW)

    I was extremely happy with my deadllift workout. PR's through out the workout. Increased a rep on each set. This and the fact that the havoc should be out of my system by now.

    365x10x8x6x4x4....weight 192.

    Even just as exciting i have maintained a weight above 190. Actually a big deal for me.

    The post cycle maintenance of weight/strength is what is really important to me. I attribute much of my success to holding my cycle to about two weeks. I have been doing this periodically since last June. Since then I'm fully recovered with a 15 pound weight gain and significantly stronger.
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  3. Hey Max, u said u have been doing the two week cycles, since last June, what were your others and what were the gains ????

  4. Tex,

    I finished what was left of some leftover superdrol and then i hit the halodrol. So that makes havoc my 4th two week cycle in 6 mos.

    My gains from the past cycles were a little less than 5 pounds each time. After 15 pounds since June my BF% increased only 2% which is really good considering 7%-9%.

    BTW, how close are you to Aggieland? I'm in Bryan, Texas?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by MaximumSecurity

    BTW, how close are you to Aggieland? I'm in Bryan, Texas?
    Hopefully as far as possible! jk, I'm a Longhorn, but my girlfriend is an aggie.
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  6. I live in Wichita Falls. Aggieland, I,m sorry for whatever tragedy is forcing u to live there, the real town of Austin and a the University of Texas is where its at I,m about to start my first Halo cycle, how much strength did u gain in two weeks and how did u feel while taking.....
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    Does 12-7 remind you of anything?

    Halo, SD, and Havoc basically gave me the same strength gains in two weeks. If you platue naturally before any of these PH's (should not use them otherwise IMO), then if you were like me you would make about a 10-20 pound increase in major compound movements, or a two-three rep increase with same weight. best thing with two weekers is that you keep EVERYTHING! Read my log and look how quickly i recovered...and still make gains post cycle.

    Does not seem like much but if you cycle once a quarter; add up your gains over a year...15-20 pounds lean mass and 50 pound gain on all major lifts. That is like newbee gains + at a rate the old body can adjust to.

    After years of experimentation of AAS/PH, I find that one step forward beats three steps forward-two steps back everytime. For me, phychologically anyway.

    Halo & havoc improved my look and SD gave me a more smooth-bloated look.

    Hope that helps.

  8. nice log, looks like everything is going smooth for u. keep it up.

  9. Yep, I'm working out with lighter weight more reps coming back from the holidays. Been going fairly heavy for the past few months so its difficult to determine any real ups or downs strength wise.

    My deadlifts are an exception to the above, thus my 'barometer' for over all progress. Been pleased with that as you can go back and see.

    I consider myself done with PCT. I'm on day 6 of Jungle Warfare which followed my 10 days of 6 pills ed of 6oxo. I will finish my bottle of JW though. This being the case I'm going to let this log phase itself out as Havoc is no longer the theme any longer.

    My conclusions are havoc is safe and effective for two weeks three pills a day. PCT is a breeze. No noticable side effects.

  10. Thanks for the excellent log and feedback.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
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  11. Well, here it is mid February. I weigh about 5 pounds less since ended my log (187).

    I have been off creatine, JW, basically all supps save for occasional protein powder & multi vit.

    My body sort of reacted to a lay-off as i think I was a bit over trained a few weeks ago. I went through a down phase and in doing so lost some weight and strength.

    I'm sure everyone here goes through this at one time or another. Old timers like me realize this is part of the game. The ol' bod just wants to rest in the hanger.

    I've gotten some spark back this week. I'm for seeing a 17 day cycle (finish my bottle of havoc) come 1st of March.

    That may seem a bit soon, yet I figure it is justified do to my short cycle regimn.

    Anyway, I needed to check in. Stay strong, bros!

  12. MS - are you saying you have not been getting enough protein (you say occasional protein powder)? That would definitely cause you to lose a lot of muscle.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless

  13. I'm getting enough protein. The meals I eat are usually packed with protein. Hence the occasional protein powder.

    There may have been a few days there i did not get enough. I figure such would be negligiable, agree?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by MaximumSecurity View Post
    I'm getting enough protein. The meals I eat are usually packed with protein. Hence the occasional protein powder.

    There may have been a few days there i did not get enough. I figure such would be negligiable, agree?
    Agreed. I think downtime is very important, indeed. Sparking everything back to life should get you right back to where you were before.

    Keep us updated.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
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