- 11-08-2006, 03:38 PM
Day10- I am going to take another day of rest before I do legs. I have soreness in both quads still and will not be using the weights today. However, Muay Thai and some aerobics are on the agenda and will be completed by some yoga(flexibility + the girls in the class are hot as hell). I took my dose this moring around 5am and I swear I am eating every hour on the hour. I have had 3 all the whey shakes today(120g protein so far) plus 2 servings of oatmeal and I am about to go grab some fajitas. To all of you that are following I hope that this is helping you all in some way and again if you have suggestions about how to make it better I will be happy to hear about it.
- 11-08-2006, 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by ludacris007
11-08-2006, 07:41 PM
I have been hungery for the 24hrs after the dose. I mean I am trying to eat protein when i am eating but I am craving carbs it seems like. I took a look at the scale and I am up to 207. robster what are your stats and when did u start dosing
11-08-2006, 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by ludacris007
I started Monday night and just took another dose today. I'm doing 80mcg eod. I will prob change it up though depending on how I feel.
Stats - I'm 5'3 150 and have been lifting for about 7 years but have only had my diet in check for 2.
11-09-2006, 06:05 PM
day11- no classes today so I woke up around 11. slept for about 10 hours and was still tired as fock. I had to take a dose and half of focus xt and a monster energy drink. Just got down with my training for today:
Legs-8 rep day
Leg press- 4 sets @ 630 lbs (very slow on the way down)
did calf press with this wt on the machine 4 sets of 8
Notes:did some single leg ext for a lil extra fun. 3 sets of 15 with 55 lbs. Also tried some the machine that I normally love to see the ladies on where u use ur hip ab/adductors b/c it helps with Brazilian Ju Jitsu which I will start in Janurary(membership special sale). Woke up this morning and was hungery as **** yet again and took two shakes with in 90 mins of each other(totaling 1500 cals). Just got down eating 3 fish fillets and 3 med potatoes. so I am think that is about 2500 cals in 6 hours which is unusual for me. I have a date tonight and I am taking her to this place that is ****ing awesome on thursday nights and I plan on gettin a lil sloshed. Just wondering what if any effect alcohol will have on the oratropin and it function in the body? I know it is not optimal but you only live once. Also even though my wt is about the same my waist is getting smaller. My jeans that normally do not need a belt are sliding down is this normal? thanks for the help.
11-09-2006, 07:27 PM
Yeah - I think the leaning out is typical it seems.
The hunger is too.
Make sure to get enough carbs - it can make you hypoglycemic.
I'm not sure of any effect with alcohol. But - I don't drink...
11-13-2006, 01:43 AM
sorry for not updating I stay away from the computers on the weekends
day12(friday)-upper body(8 rep day)
Inc. Bench(hammer strength)- 3 sets @ 310 8,6,6 reps
Rows- 4 sets @ 320 lbs
bicep curls with DBs- 3 sets using 70's
tricep machine- 2 sets @ 170 and an extra set to see if i could max out the machine (205) which I did for 2 reps
Rear Shoulder press(Hammer)- 3 sets @ 180lbs
25 mins on elliptical burned 300 kcals
played basketball for an hour and did some sprints out on the football field. I did all of this cuz I went out friday night with my new girl and lets just say I sometimes indulge in the alc.
Day 13 (saturday) 4 rep leg day
30 mins of cardio then to the wts
Leg Press- 3 sets of 4 @ 720 lbs then really got ampd since my cousin was training with me and talking **** to get me to do more I did one set of 6. Really happy with getting six. no Knee pain at all not even the day after when it should really be ****ed.
Didnt do calves because of the extra stuff I did on friday they were sore.
Day 14(Sunday)- Off
notes: I think I am getting sick because I havent felt this bad in a long while. I did get a flu shot on wed and I have heard that sometimes ppl get sick after getting the shot. I hope that is not true because I am enjoying this cycle and I dont want any thing to get too f'd up. I will get up in the morning and see how it goes.
11-13-2006, 08:37 PM
day 15(monday)- sick as hell. I am still eating pretty well and my weight is 206 and I am starting to see cuts in my oblique areas. I am not going to lift today and I will be in bed soon so that I can rest. I hope this **** doesnt last too long. I will be adding some B12 shots when I get it later this week. Going to lie down and watch some football and go to sleep.
11-13-2006, 10:26 PM
Seems like most people I know get a 3 day flu when they get the vaccine. Should be over soon enough for ya. (Hopefully.)
Keep us updated!
11-14-2006, 02:16 PM
Day 16- upper body 4 rep day
inc Bench (hammer)-2 sets @ 360
rows-3sets @ 340 lbs
shoulder press(DB)-2 sets @ 75's
rear delts- 1 set @ 50's for 6 reps
DB curls 2 sets @ 70's
rope pulls- 2 sets @ 170 lbs
notes: felt a little bit better today. more of a generalized fatigue, but the fever was gone according to my therm. I was about to just say **** it and rest again today, but I felt well enough to get in a work out. Surprisingly, I was able to lift pretty well today and though my appetite is not great right now I had a good post work out meal. I think all of this had to do with a bit of overtraining, a bit too much partying in smoke filled bars and being a lil stressed out about some other aspects of my life and maybe just maybe the flu shot I took. I am going to take a nap before I have class. Also, I wanted to ask about maybe switching to E3D would there be any advantage. I read a post by Grunt76 late one night and I wasnt sure if i may benefit more from that.
11-15-2006, 04:06 PM
i am still feeling under the weather and my body just said no today when I was warming up to do legs. So, I just decided to rest one more day then get back into it. hopefully tomorrow will bring me some good health.
11-16-2006, 04:26 PM
Day 18-legs 4 rep day
finally felt 90% today. so I gave it a go.
Leg Press-4 sets @ 770 lbs X 4 reps(PR)
single leg ext-3 sets @ 80 lbs to fail
oblique machine- 3 sets205 lbs X 6reps
swiss ball + 35 lbs plate- 3 sets X 8, 6 , 4 ( got a muscle spasm after i got up)
lower back machine- 3 sets @ 255 lbs X 5reps
notes: i felt a bit stronger today than i had in previous days and when I started doing warm ups i felt even better. The PR i set for leg press i think was due to a lil bit of extra rest and just the fact that mentally I am much stronger now than I was previously. I am still noticing that I am getting leaner and more defined with out any wt loss. i looked at my weight today and I was 205.5 lbs and my abs are the best they have been since I was 180 lbs about 3 yrs ago. So, i am excited and glad to be over this cold. I will be out of town this weekend I will post again hopefully tomorrow and def on sunday nite
11-20-2006, 01:17 AM
I actually found a gym to work out at and it was pretty nice so I decided to give it a run
Day 19- upper body 12 rep day
bench machine- 3 sets @ 250 lbs
Lat pull down- 3 sets @ 200 lbs
shoulder press w/ DB- 3 sets @ 60's lbs
pushdowns-2 sets @ 150 lbs
curls DB- 2 sets @ 55's
Day 20- legs 12 reps
machine leg press- 5 sets @ 400 lbs(maxed out machine) X 15 reps plus did calf press using same weights
did sit ups on an incline with a 25 plate across the chest 3 sets to failure. grabed a 45 lb plate and did twists 3 sets 15 reps
notes: havent take oratropin since friday morining. I am going to take it monday morning and I should be wrapping up this log by dec. 1. I will take weight tomorrow and I am going to take a dose of the methyl B12 not sure how much yet I am going to research it a bit more before making a final decision. Overall I look leaner and i think when I do my sdrol over xmas break I will be extremely happy.
11-20-2006, 08:56 PM
day 22- upper 8 rep day
Inc. Bench(hammer strength)- 3 sets @ 320
Rows- 4 sets @ 320 lbs
preacher curl machine- 155lbs 3 sets
tricep machine- 3 sets @ 180 lbs
Rear Shoulder press(Hammer)- 3 sets @ 190lbs
40 yd. sprints, agility drills and a 9 min mile on the treadmill
hit the heavy bag for 4 rounds. took a methylb12 shot today and didnt notice anything different. the focus xt has been money and I have not suffered anymore bouts of fatigue. I have been contemplating using a albuterol for the cardio and to enhance the leaning effect but I think I will wait until post cycle so that people can get a look at what oratropin can do for them by itself. also, I will be running a log for superdrol next month can someone tell me if I am doing this log the right way and if not can you plz give suggestions on what i can do to make the log more beneficial to those following it
11-20-2006, 09:26 PM
I think it looks pretty good man. Just tell folks what you are feeling, noticing, etc.
With PH's - calories and macro's are good to provide.
Might consider just a lipids/liver before and after blood-test for superdrol so you'll know how it affects you (for possible future runs of it). It can be bad on the lipids.
11-21-2006, 11:54 AM
update: i will be leaving today for thanksgiving break. I will not be posting until next sunday. thanks
11-24-2006, 01:12 PM
Don't swallow it.. Just keep it by by your cheeks. Normally takes around 30-45 minutes to fully absorb, just to be safe.Originally Posted by robster11
Great log so far!
11-26-2006, 05:38 PM
Day 24(wed)-legs 8 rep day + abs/obliques
5 sets of Leg Press @ 700 lbs ( more confidence in my knees because this is the heaviest i have gone and I have not had any pain at all)
obliques- 55 lbs db's bending to the side for 8 reps and then doing twists
hanging leg raises- 4 sets to fail( very slow up and very slow down)
cardio- boxing 5 rounds treadmill- 15 mins(varying speeds)
notes: I am looking leaner esp in the midsection and my traps are looking much better than before. I am not having joint pain at all even when I run on the treadmill. I am still eating like a horse and it doesnt really translate into any fat around the mid section.
day 25(thanksgiving day)-upper body 4 rep day
hammer inc bench- 3 sets @ 350 lbs
t-bar rows- 3 sets @ 245 lbs 3,3,2
Military press- 3 sets @ 200 lbs
tricep machine- 3 sets @205
bicep curls- 70 lbs DB's 3 sets
11-26-2006, 05:41 PM
day 26(friday)- off b/c legs still sore
day 27(saturday)- legs 4 rep day
leg press- 5 sets @ 790 lbs 5,5,4,3,2(knee started hurting)
hanging leg raises 5 sets to failure
boxing- 6 rounds treadmill- 20 mins + 15 on ellipitical
day 28(sunday)-travel day
11-26-2006, 11:08 PM
also before i forget... did a weigh in over the break and in boxers and in the AM i was 205.5 lbs and I will be running superdrol + thyrotabs or albuterol or another stim starting as soon as I do some more research and get some feedback from some ppl. this new log will start dec 4th
11-28-2006, 11:43 AM
day 29(monday)- upper body 12 rep day
bench machine- 3 sets @ 250 lbs
Lat pull down- 3 sets @ 220 lbs
shoulder press -3 sets @ 165 lbs
pushdowns-2 sets @ 150 lbs
preacher curls- 2 sets @ 140 lbs
notes: I did 7 rounds of boxing and then 20 mins on the treadmill without pain in my knee. I also did some yoga later on in the day and I have noticed a nice increase in my flexibility. I am going to start doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and I think this added flexibility will serve me well in that persuit. Other than that I have one more syringe left and I will go ahead and continue this log until day 32 then I will be moving on to a superdrol log that is under "cycle info" in the anabolics discussion. For that log I will be adding thyrotabs and will be doing a PCT using rebound reloaded, retain, nolva, and a thyroid PCT to get that up and running. The total time for that log will be 42 days 3 weeks on 3 off. I will be doing this because I want to give people an idea of what to expect from using oratropin then going into a cycle of an androgen. I hope this log has been helpful to who ever has been watching.
11-29-2006, 12:12 AM
leg press- 5 sets @ 680 12,10,10,10,10
calves- using leg press machine same weight, sets X 10 reps
abs-3 sets hanging leg raises to fail (slow tempo)
twists using 45 lb plate 3 sets of 15
boxing 7 rounds and jump rope 45 secs X 4 reps
20 mins on treadmill @ 6.0 mph
notes: diet is still not so clean because I am trying to keep carbs up. I am still @ 3700-4200 kcals. I took a look at the scale today prior to lifting today and it was 207. this stuff is pretty f'in good.....
11-29-2006, 07:23 PM
day 31(wed)- upper body 8rep day
bench machine- 3 sets @ 300 lbs (8,6,5)
Lat pull down- 3 sets @ 250 lbs (8, 5,4)
shoulder press -3 sets @ 185 lbs (7, 7, 8)
close grip bench on smith machine- 3 sets 205 lbs
BB curls-155lbs 2 sets
took my last dose last night. I am done with the kit. Tomorrow will be my last post for this cycle. At that time I will post my conclusions, gains and maybe some pics.
11-30-2006, 04:25 PM
day 32(thurs)- off i am sore all over and I need another day to rest before doing legs.
final thoughts- I felt like oratropin is a quality product put out by IBE. I am not having joint pain like I used to which is a huge plus. I did see some strength gains and overall my body looks leaner esp around the midsection(i think I am about 7.5-8% Bf now)I added 2lbs of weight and my jeans are a bit looser than before. This was done while not eating as clean as I normally do. I dont think the full effects of this product will be seen until i finish my next cycle using superdrol and thyrotabs. I am expecting to see an increase in strength and the development of the new muscle cells created during this cycle. I think this product will work wonders for those people over 35 and those looking to bust thru plateaus. The sides to watch out for: slight lethargy, hypoglycemia, hypersomnia(sleeping 10 hrs plus). Other than that I hope this log has been helpful and if there are questions I would be more than happy to answer them to the best of my abilities. thanks
p.s.- I will be logging superdrol/thyrotabs cycle in the cycle info part of the anabolics section for those interested.
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