Restore & Jungle Warfare log
- 10-29-2006, 12:16 PM
- 10-31-2006, 05:21 PM
*3 caps Restore
Daily caloric intake
I'm still consuming roughly 3900 cals daily, and I'm still gaining in strength and mass, while having dropped 2% bodyfat. And I'm still consuming those calories in a 40/40/20 ratio.
Today's workout: Delts/biceps/forearms
* Reverse Peck Deck 3x of ROB method
* Crossbody laterals with cables 2x with drop sets
* Front DB Raises 2 straight sets to failure
*Preacher Curls with EZ bar 3x of ROB method
*Barbell Curls 2x with drop sets each set
*DB Hammer Curls 2x
*Seated Barbell Wrist Curls 5x...2 sets using ROB method
Visually I have gained mass in my forearms, triceps, traps, and rear delts. Hell yeah baby! These areas have always required a higher level of "beatings" from me, and I'm stoked that I am seeing such significant improvements in such a short period of time.
I both love and hate working out with this stuff. I say that because I feel like I can just keep going. If I didn't pay attention to the clock, my butt would end up spending 2 hours in there. I have to force myself to leave and remind myself of the cortisol effect and that I need to get nutrients into my system ASAP. The added strength and endurance the restore/JW combo has given me is phenomenal
11-02-2006, 05:52 PM
* 3 caps Restore
Today's workout...Chest and Triceps
* Flat bench Dumbell Presses 3x, each set using 130lb dumbells for 10 reps the first set, 7 reps the second, 5 reps the third.
* Machine Presses for 4x...each set done with a drop set and increasingly heavier weight. Focus was on the semi-stretch range of motion...not a full range of motion.
* Peck Deck: 3x, all sets done in the semi-stretch position without a full range of motion.
*Cable Pressdowns (elbows flared): 4x; each set performed with drop sets and X-reps
*Seated overhead Skull Crushers: 6x..each set performed with drop sets.
Geez, have I mentioned lately how strong this stuff makes me??! 130lb dumbells for 10 easy reps on chest presses is insane for me at least!! I'm sitting there in between sets eye-ballin' those 140lb dumbells because I know that those babies are going up next Heck, I could put them up now if I wanted to!!
Anyways, this is a great stack! Call me an ALRI cheerleader all you want. But when their products do what they claim to do, then I will sit here and give rave reviews because so much out there today is crap...and I'm being nice by using the word "crap." LOL!
11-05-2006, 07:42 PM
3 caps Restore
Yesterday's Workout...Quads, calves
4x seated leg press
6x seated Hammer Strength calf press
I was ridiculously tired in the gym yesterday after my 4 sets on the leg press. But my quads are soar as hell today. Any sort of movement that puts a stretch on them is painful!! And my calves, like always, are progressively getting more and more soar as the day goes on.
TODAY for me is an off day.
11-07-2006, 12:21 AM
*2 caps Restore. I am now going to taper off with 2 caps, due to the minor depression I experienced when coming off of Jungle Warfare at 3 caps. Although, in retrospect, I believe I went from 4 or 5 caps in week 7, to 3 caps the final week, to nothing. That as well could have played a factor in the minor depression I experienced.
I will therefore I have 6 days worth at 2 caps daily.
Week3: As of day 23..243lbs
Week4: As of day 31..245lbs
So I've been able to put on 11lbs of lean mass in 6 weeks, and I've dropped 2% in bodyfat.
Positive Effects Noticed
*HUGE PUMPS 24/7.
*Increased endurance/stamina in the gym.
*I've lost 2% bodyfat without cutting cals
*STRENGTH GAINS!! These have been HUGE in nearly every lift, especially compound lifts!
*And I guess if you have to twist my arm to say it, the gains in muscle mass have been alright....totally sarcasm
Negative Effects Noticed
*The oily skin has returned, and damn, the acne is back. Oh well. That's the price I pay
Today's Workout...Delts and Biceps
*Cable Cross-body Laterals 5x
*Reverse Flyes 4x
*Front laterals 3x
*EZ bar Preacher Curls 5x
*Hammer Curls 5x
Still using the 40/40/20 ratio of protein/carbs/fat. I am consuming 4000 calories daily at this point.
11-10-2006, 12:27 AM
*3 caps...I decided not to taper down with 2 caps. The reason being is that I didn't want to say that ceasing a cycle of JW and/or Restore causes mild depression based on my 1 previous trial. So, I figured I'd try ending this cycle at 3 caps again and see how I feel this time. I figure it's the most responsible thing to do rather than drawing conclusions based on one single trial. So I'll keep everyone updated.
Note: Only 1 day was dosed at 2 caps.
*Dumbell Bench Presses 3x: 140lb Dumbells in each arm!!! 6 reps easy!! When I started this log I was only using 110lb dumbells in each arm for this exercise!
*Machine Presses 5x
*Peck Deck 5x
I had to cut today's workout short, but I'm still just frickin' stoked over using the 140lb dumbells! Strength gains are definitely a MAJOR benefit of this stack.
I will follow up with my final thoughts of this cycle in a couple days. I am VERY happy with the end results.
11-10-2006, 11:21 AM
Great log Terminator and great results.... I just finished my 8 week JW cycle. I put on 5 lbs of LBM and felt great through out the cycle....... Good luck!
11-11-2006, 04:10 PM
Final Review And Thoughts
After using Jungle Warfare solo for 8 weeks, and acheiving phenomenol gains, I wasn't quite sure just how much of a difference adding ALRI's new product RESTORE to the mix would make. I thought to myself that it'll probably enhance the benefits of an already great product IMO (Jungle Warfare), but that it would not add to the effects in any sort of "significant" manor. I was wrong And normally I am always right. On the few rare occassions when I appear to be wrong, I'm just testing people to make sure they are paying attention to me. But in this case I was clearly wrong.
My Dosing Scheme
Week1: Restore...3 caps.
Week2: Restore...3 caps.
Week3: Restore...3 caps. Jungle Warfare...3 caps
Week4: Restore...3 caps. Jungle Warfare...3 caps
Week5: Restore...3 caps. Jungle Warfare...3 caps
Week6: Restore...3 caps. Jungle Warfare...3 caps
Week7: Restore...3 caps.
Week8: Restore...3 caps.
For those of you who are curious, I initially said that I would taper off the Restore due to some minor depression I experienced after using JW. I decided not to do that. My reason is that I did not want to sit here and say after ONE trial that tapering down is necessary. So I decided to end this cycle at 3 caps and see if I experience any mild depression upon my body returning hormonally to homeostasis. For me to draw conclusions based on one trial wouldn't be fair to you the reader, to myself, or to ALRI. So like any good scientist, I am here to repeat the experiment and see what kind of results I get this time.
In short, I gained 11lbs of lean mass, and lost 2% bodyfat in 8 weeks.
I used a 40/40/20...protein/carbs/fat ratio. I consumed 4000 cals daily.
Positive Effects Noticed of Jungle Warfare/Restore Stack
*The strength gains BY FAR are the most significant effect of this stack....better than when I used Ergomax at 30mg daily.
*Increased muscle size and density. The biggest areas of improvement for me have been in my traps, side/rear delts, triceps, and forearms.
*Decrease in bodyfat.
*Enhanced Alpha Male attitude.
*Increased energy throughout the day.
*And increase in stamina and endurance in the gym.
*A DEFINITE increase in Libido!!! At 27 and constantly horny, I didn't think it was possible seeing as how I'm still a young buck and all But...yeah...LOL!! Boo0iiiiiiiinnnnggggg...as Beavis and Butthead would say!!
Positive Effects of the stack compared to Jungle Warfare alone
*I actually lost bodyfat this time around. ALRI mentioned that one of the positive effects of Jungle Warfare is that testers had reported a decrease in bodyfat. I personally did not experience that when I used Jungle Warfare alone. However, upon adding Restore to the mix, the loss of bodyfat became very apparent.
*The full body pumps IMO were more prominent throughout the day. Granted I was constantly pumped on Jungle Warfare, but I felt tighter and fuller when stacking the two together.
*The strength gains are a bit more significant when stacking JW/Restore together than when using JW alone. I loved the strength gains from JW, as I increased my incline bench press from 315lbs for 7 reps to 335lbs for 11 reps. However, when using JW/Restore, my dumbell Bench press went from 110lb dumbells for 8 to 140lb dumbells for 6. Different exercise I know, but I think it's a pretty accurate illustration of the increase in strength gains I acheived when using the stack compared to just using JW solo.
*A much more euphoric and positive mood. When I ran JW solo and increased the dosage to 5 caps, I got moody!! LOL!! However, when using both JW/Restore, taking 6 caps total daily (3 of JW, 3 of Restore), I was constantly in a very positive mood. Now when I got moody, I got moody. But those instances were few and far between. 99% of the time I was in a very positive state of mind.
*When I used JW alone, I stated in my final review that I noticed an increased thermo effect. I didn't notice that so much this time. I am tempted to rethink my original statement and attribute some, if not a good majority of the thermogenic feeling, to the fact that it was summer and hot as hell out! And, being a dude, my body temp is naturally high anyways.
Negative Effects of the Jungle Warfare/Restore Stack
*Acne and oily skin on my face.
Negative Effects of the stack compared to JW solo
*The acne was a bit worse when stacking JW and Restore compared to running JW solo. For instance, when I ran JW alone, the acne increased for about the first 10-14 days in the cycle, but then it subsided and never returned. With the JW/Restore stack, the acne increased during the 1st 10-14 days of using Restore, then subsided for the first week of adding Jungle Warfare. But once the Jungle Warfare built up in my system, the acne increased again and remained consistent for the duration of the cycle.
I guess I should clarify something. The "quantity" of zits is not what increased. The zit itself is what increased. The acne I experienced was the thick, deep, red kind of zits that are slightly painful. So my face didn't turn into a "crater face", it's simply that I had a couple "Death Stars" constantly in orbit around my face.
Just a side note worth mentioning
I have read of people reporting stiff and dry joints from higher doses of AI's. I did not notice any stiffness/soreness/dryness at all in my joints when taking 3 caps of Restore and 3 caps of Jungle Warfare.
Some High Points for me with this stack
*Dumbell Bench Press: Start: 110lbs for 8 reps. End: 140lb dumbells for 6 reps.
*Overhead DB Presses for Triceps: Start: 90lb Dumbell for 10 reps. End: 115lb dumbell for 15 reps.
*Hammer Strength Shrugs: Start: 4'45's each side for 10 without wrist straps. End: 5'45's each side for 8...and without wrist straps.
I achieved goals with this stack that I hadn't been able to in the past. Granted now that I prioritized my training a lot based on weaker bodyparts/assymmetry, using untraditional training protocals like delts/biceps/forearms and such, or traps/forearms or traps/triceps. But the added strength benefits, enhanced stamina, and added pumps of this stack really allowed me to stress muscle fibers in stubborn areas that have always been a pain in the ass for me in the past. I now have added triceps mass, added trap and forearm development, and fuller, more symmetrical shoulders.
This stack has been a pleasure to run. I owe ALRI and Jeff a huge "Thank You" for the opportunity to use these products. I look forward to running this stack again, and I hope to have the opportunity to add their Bad Ass Mass into the mix with Jungle Warfare and Restore in the future.
If any of you have any questions, please ask away Thanks all for your support in this log.
11-11-2006, 05:59 PM
Couple of question's-
1. Do you think you can give a fare assement of which was better when ran solo, JW or restore?
2. and what is Bad Ass Mass? Any info on it?
~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
11-11-2006, 06:04 PM
11-11-2006, 06:14 PM
Hard to say. When I used JW solo, it took until I was in week 3 to notice the effects full force in my system. By the time week 3 came around for me with this log, I had added JW to the Restore and continued with both for the next 4 weeks. So I couldn't give you an accurate assessment about Restore's effects by itself.Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns
I can tell you that JW by itself is pretty wicked. The above mentioned comparisons I wrote about the Restore/JW stacked together, compared to when I ran just JW solo, is about the best I can do for you right now.
11-11-2006, 06:28 PM
11-11-2006, 06:46 PM
Good log, i used Restore along with Alpha drive for 4 weeks and love the stuff. I've got a 16-18 week Test/Tren/Var cycle i'm doing in about 4 weeks and i'm going to follow that up with 12 weeks of Restore/Bam/Jungle Warefare, i can't wait.
11-11-2006, 06:51 PM
11-11-2006, 10:52 PM
11-11-2006, 10:52 PM
11-13-2006, 02:27 PM
11-13-2006, 02:34 PM
Hey Terminator, how long should I wait till I start a Superdrol or Phera-Plex cycle after doing an 8 week JW cycle?.... 4 weeks maybe?
11-13-2006, 02:42 PM
I'm thinking 4 weeks is a good idea. Especially with Superdrol, since SD is naturally estrogen supressive to begin with. I don't think it would be a good idea to run an AI, lower your estrogen levels, and then immediately jump into a SD cycle. That IMO would only increase the chances for delayed estrogen rebound and delayed gyno occuring. For a SD cycle I think it is best to go into it with normal estrogen levels. PP on the other hand...I think it would still be best to wait 4 weeks before starting.Originally Posted by Jim Mills
So which one are you going to do?!!
11-13-2006, 03:11 PM
Seeing I had good results and no sides with my last PP cycle... I think I'll wait on the superdrol till early spring and start a 4 week PP cycle, in 4 weeks. I get so damn tired on SD going into my 3rd week.... My cycle will probably go.Originally Posted by Terminator LMG
week 1 Perfect cycle
week 2-4 20mg PP/ Perfect cycle
week 5 30mg PP / perfect cycle.
post cycle therapy will be 4 weeks of Rebound XT, Retain and Perfect Cycle.
Forgot to mention, I will also be taking:
11-15-2006, 12:12 AM
Yeah, if you've had a good experience with PP before, then I would definitely stay with it. Looks like you've got a great cycle planned out for you. Best of luck with itOriginally Posted by Jim Mills
11-21-2006, 12:53 AM
great log bro.Originally Posted by Terminator LMG
just wondering if you could post a sample day's diet...i'm planning on this same cycle after what I've read...
11-22-2006, 11:42 PM
No probOriginally Posted by MANDINGO
This is for a workout day.
Meal 1 (this is also my preworkout meal): Shake
* 2 cups non-fat milk
* 1 cup raw oatmeal
* 2 scoops whey protein
Meal 2: Postworkout shake.
Sometimes I'm on the go so I'll grab a smoothie from the smoothie shop next door that consists of 138g carbs, 70g protein, 8g fat. I sip on this over the course of 1 hour or 1 hour and 15 minutes, along with plenty of water.
If I do it home made...
* 2 cups non-fat milk
* 2 single serving containers of yogurt
* 2 scoops whey protein
* 1 cup brown rice
* 9 oz chicken
Meal 4: Shake
* 2 cups non-fat milk
* 1 cup raw oatmeal
* 2 scoops whey protein
* 8 oz. tilapia fish
* 4 oz. chicken
* 1 cup cottage cheese
Overall, I try to minimize the home made shakes as much as possible. Sometimes though, they're just a heck of a lot easier when you're on the go than chicken, brown rice and veges.
I hope that's helpful. Any other questions, just fire away
11-24-2006, 07:05 PM
I know I'm being anal, but I didn't really get your workout schedule. You never mentioned when you did cardio, but I'm guessing it was one of the two days you'd usually take off in between workouts. It seemed like: cardio, delts and bis, off, chest and tris, back, off, cardio, delts and bis, off, legs, off, cardio, chest and tris, off, cardio, back... which would only make sense if you were trying to put more work into your delts, bis, chest, and tris than your legs. All in all it seemed kinda random to me, which isn't that terrible.
I only care because I'm gonna run a stack just like yours soon and I wanna know before hand what amounts of lifting, cardio, and rest work best on it.
11-25-2006, 06:38 PM
Yes, you're being anal, but with good reason! There were days here and there where I simply did not have time to update this log on every single workout. I'm applying to doctorate school for physical therapy, so my time has largely been taken up with studying.Originally Posted by xcendo
Some of my workouts while running the JW/Restore stack were due to my prioritizing bodyparts, hence the odd and untraditional pairings on my part throughout the log. I believe I even mentioned this throughout the course of this log if I am not mistaken. Here's the standard layout of my workouts for you.
*Delts, Biceps, Forearms
*Back, Traps, calves
At the end of two or three of my four weekly workouts I would perform 10-15 minutes of moderate cardio, since fat incinerating hormones such as growth hormone are much higher after lifting than when someone goes in to do just cardio.
I hope that helps you better plan your schedule, and best of luck to you with the cycle My body tends to respond best to lifting 4 times weekly and keeping my cardio to the days I lift, rather than putting it on seperate days. Others however respond better to 3 days of lifting and performing their cardio on their "off" days. It just depends on the individual.
Either way I think you're in for a huge surprise with this stack. I thought I knew what I could expect after having run JW solo for 8 weeks. But the role that Restore played was pretty shocking to me!
11-25-2006, 09:40 PM
Thanks, that's just what I needed to know. I can't wait to run this cycle ... it'll actually be 8 weeks on Restore and 8 full weeks on JW, so I should see some dramatic strength gains and fat loss. I'll be sure to try adding some HIIT cardio after my lifts.
11-26-2006, 09:33 AM
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11-27-2006, 11:15 AM
Not so sound stupid, but can anyone tell me what the science/rationale is behind starting off with Restore for 2 weeks, than adding in the JW, and finishing with Restore?
Yes, I've read up on both of these supps (and actually started day 1 of the combo stack yesterday), but I'm still a little confused as to what each does differently and how they work together as this thread's stack has them working?
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