rkieltyk
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i had a log over at bb.com and this is basically my final review of the product....
Day 1 of 1st bottle ---> Today
Incline Bench (stopped doing this in 2nd bottle)
160x5 ---> 170x6
EZ Bar Curls
75x6 ---> 80x6
Preacher Curls
40x6 (with god knows what form) ---> 40x7 (with good form)
Dips
12-15 with bodyweight (not sure the exact number ---> bw + 40x8
ATG Squats
??225x8?? ---> 285x2 (the question marks indicate that i didnt use to go full ATG more like just at parallel, so its more of a GUESS to how much i couldve done with good form)
Deads
315x5 (decent form) ---> 345x4
^^^^those were the exercises that were mostly constant throughout the 2 bottles
Day 1 of 2nd bottle ---> Today
Deads
320x4 ---> 345x4
EZ Curls
75x7 ---> 80x6
Squats
255x4 ---> 285x2
BB Rows
155x7 ---> 175x4 or 170x5 take your pick
Incline DB Shrug
70x15 ---> 85x15
DB Bench
80x6 ---> 80x6 my bench always sucks, i hate my life
CG Bench
125x10 ---> 145x8
Dips
bw +20x10 ---> bw + 40x8
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Measurements (cue the horror music)
(all measurements are from day 1 of the 2 bottles to now, and all measurements are flexed except waist, weight and body fat)
Body Fat %
Before: ~19-20%
After: ~17-18% (im gettin there....)
^^^^this is measured just at the abdominal area, i feel i have tightened up other places more so than here
Weight
Before: 212.5
After: 216 (at the time of my best gains) 213.5 (as of now, slightly diminished strength)
Right Arm
Before: just under 15"
After: just at 15"
Left Arm
Before: 14.75"
After: a little over 15" (the hell...)
(now i know what yall are thinking, "damn hes got some short arms!" but i assure you this is measured around the bicep and tricep area)
Right Forearm
Before: 12"
After: 12"
Left Forearm
before: just under 12"
after: 12"
Waist
before: 38"
after: i honestly dont remember where exactly i measured this at so any measurement could be misleading, although i feel it has shrunk (shrank?)
Right Calf
before: 16.5"
after: 16.8"
Left Calf
before: 16.5"
after: 16.8"
Right Thigh
before: 24.5"
after: ?? again my fault on not remembering where i measured, if its where i think i measured its like 23"
Left thigh: ^^^see above
id like to remind yall that i was going for recomposition so these measurements dont give much justice to what the product actually did. strength gains are where its at...
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Final Review
Strength Gains [10/10]
I have ALWAYS had trouble gaining strength, as i hit puberty really early and havent grown in about 5 years. (im 18) I've seen my best strength gains on this product as opposed to all the others i used. The strength came in at about week 3 if i can remember, and i started really getting stronger once i upped the caps to 4x daily. All while being on maintainence calories...
Fat Loss [5/10]
I really dont think i lost much fat while on this product, there was some recomposition going on, but i feel that was mainly due to my diet being on target.
Mass [6/10]
I didnt really gain any mass (see measurements in post above), but that really wasnt my goal with this log. I feel if someone wanted to gain mass they definetly could gain it on this product with a good calories surplus, but again i wasnt really trying to add mass.
Pump [7/10]
I'll have to admit, i enjoy a good pump (maybe not as much as arnold, a la pumping iron) and did get some mild pumps while out of the gym while on this. sometimes in the gym i felt like the pumps were a little better with this product, as i recall one day super setting incline db curls and feeling amazing. This product im sure wasnt made for a pump, but it gave one anyway.
Price [10/10]
I got a really good deal on this product (39.00 per bottle) and felt it was money well spent. when you look at similiar stacks (which i have not tried) like the NHA stack or ph + pct and support supps (with the side effects possibly) i feel it was worth my money.
Side Effects [8/10]
I wouldve given this a 10/10 but... i had some problems (which could be individualized) that flared up. When i first started the 4x daily (not recommended on the bottle, but supposedly ALR says its ok if you have prior ph use, which i do not) i had heart palps the first day. I did have these a couple years ago so it could be related to that, they also only lasted for a couple hours and were gone by the next morning. There were also periods where i had trouble getting to sleep, again this could be an indivualized problem but something to look out for.
Overall [9/10]
I feel this is a great product for those looking to gain strength while on a cut, and POSSIBLY add mass while bulking. I feel i couldve made better gains if i was on a true bulk. I wouldve liked to have added more mass while on this product, but again i realize i was on maintainence calories and got some body recomposition which is good.
Day 1 of 1st bottle ---> Today
Incline Bench (stopped doing this in 2nd bottle)
160x5 ---> 170x6
EZ Bar Curls
75x6 ---> 80x6
Preacher Curls
40x6 (with god knows what form) ---> 40x7 (with good form)
Dips
12-15 with bodyweight (not sure the exact number ---> bw + 40x8
ATG Squats
??225x8?? ---> 285x2 (the question marks indicate that i didnt use to go full ATG more like just at parallel, so its more of a GUESS to how much i couldve done with good form)
Deads
315x5 (decent form) ---> 345x4
^^^^those were the exercises that were mostly constant throughout the 2 bottles
Day 1 of 2nd bottle ---> Today
Deads
320x4 ---> 345x4
EZ Curls
75x7 ---> 80x6
Squats
255x4 ---> 285x2
BB Rows
155x7 ---> 175x4 or 170x5 take your pick
Incline DB Shrug
70x15 ---> 85x15
DB Bench
80x6 ---> 80x6 my bench always sucks, i hate my life
CG Bench
125x10 ---> 145x8
Dips
bw +20x10 ---> bw + 40x8
-------------------------------------------------------------
Measurements (cue the horror music)
(all measurements are from day 1 of the 2 bottles to now, and all measurements are flexed except waist, weight and body fat)
Body Fat %
Before: ~19-20%
After: ~17-18% (im gettin there....)
^^^^this is measured just at the abdominal area, i feel i have tightened up other places more so than here
Weight
Before: 212.5
After: 216 (at the time of my best gains) 213.5 (as of now, slightly diminished strength)
Right Arm
Before: just under 15"
After: just at 15"
Left Arm
Before: 14.75"
After: a little over 15" (the hell...)
(now i know what yall are thinking, "damn hes got some short arms!" but i assure you this is measured around the bicep and tricep area)
Right Forearm
Before: 12"
After: 12"
Left Forearm
before: just under 12"
after: 12"
Waist
before: 38"
after: i honestly dont remember where exactly i measured this at so any measurement could be misleading, although i feel it has shrunk (shrank?)
Right Calf
before: 16.5"
after: 16.8"
Left Calf
before: 16.5"
after: 16.8"
Right Thigh
before: 24.5"
after: ?? again my fault on not remembering where i measured, if its where i think i measured its like 23"
Left thigh: ^^^see above
id like to remind yall that i was going for recomposition so these measurements dont give much justice to what the product actually did. strength gains are where its at...
-------------------------------------------------------------
Final Review
Strength Gains [10/10]
I have ALWAYS had trouble gaining strength, as i hit puberty really early and havent grown in about 5 years. (im 18) I've seen my best strength gains on this product as opposed to all the others i used. The strength came in at about week 3 if i can remember, and i started really getting stronger once i upped the caps to 4x daily. All while being on maintainence calories...
Fat Loss [5/10]
I really dont think i lost much fat while on this product, there was some recomposition going on, but i feel that was mainly due to my diet being on target.
Mass [6/10]
I didnt really gain any mass (see measurements in post above), but that really wasnt my goal with this log. I feel if someone wanted to gain mass they definetly could gain it on this product with a good calories surplus, but again i wasnt really trying to add mass.
Pump [7/10]
I'll have to admit, i enjoy a good pump (maybe not as much as arnold, a la pumping iron) and did get some mild pumps while out of the gym while on this. sometimes in the gym i felt like the pumps were a little better with this product, as i recall one day super setting incline db curls and feeling amazing. This product im sure wasnt made for a pump, but it gave one anyway.
Price [10/10]
I got a really good deal on this product (39.00 per bottle) and felt it was money well spent. when you look at similiar stacks (which i have not tried) like the NHA stack or ph + pct and support supps (with the side effects possibly) i feel it was worth my money.
Side Effects [8/10]
I wouldve given this a 10/10 but... i had some problems (which could be individualized) that flared up. When i first started the 4x daily (not recommended on the bottle, but supposedly ALR says its ok if you have prior ph use, which i do not) i had heart palps the first day. I did have these a couple years ago so it could be related to that, they also only lasted for a couple hours and were gone by the next morning. There were also periods where i had trouble getting to sleep, again this could be an indivualized problem but something to look out for.
Overall [9/10]
I feel this is a great product for those looking to gain strength while on a cut, and POSSIBLY add mass while bulking. I feel i couldve made better gains if i was on a true bulk. I wouldve liked to have added more mass while on this product, but again i realize i was on maintainence calories and got some body recomposition which is good.
