Jungle Warfare/N.O. Xplode

[jabaha]

Hey I am abut to start jungle warfare but I have a lot of products that I am taking now that I am not sure if it is safe to take with JW. My goal is to lose a lot BF but i also want to gain muscle and look more lean.

Currently taking:
N.O Xplode
Lipo 6
Nitro-X (similar to Nitrix)
ON 100% Whey Isolate Protein
IDS Multi-Pro Whey
SizeOn (Creatine)
BSN Cheaters
Cytosport Muscle Milk RTD

I want to use all of these but I have heard it is not safe to take creatine with pro-hormones, steroids, etc.

Should I not take any creatine while I am on JW?
I was also thinking about stacking JW with Axis-HT...please tell me what you think of this if it help get leaner by using this stack?

[Ronin13]

I want to use all of these but I have heard it is not safe to take creatine with pro-hormones, steroids, etc.



I have never heard such a thing..... source?

[jabaha]

Haha thanks my goal is to get double Ds. haha j/k. But does SERm stand for?
So what your saying is i should not it with axis-ht right?

[jabaha]

I saw it on a forum about creatine not being safe to take with bulking supplements but that was a long time ago when I read that in someone's forum.

[PVSkyHigh]

Jungle Warfare is netiher a ph nor a steroid. It looks like you spend a lot of money on supplements. Post your stats and diet.

[Ronin13]

Haha thanks my goal is to get double Ds. haha j/k. But does SERm stand for?
So what your saying is i should not it with axis-ht right?

You should do some more research. SERM is discussed ad nauseam through out the forum.

[jabaha]

Well i think my diet is decent but if you guys have any ideas to makeit better or if i need change something let me know. I eat grilled chicken, tuna, salmon, sirloin steak, egg whites, ground beef ( i try to avoid hamburgers b/c of the grease) and skim milk.
My carbs are brown rice, salad (i use light balsamic vinaigrette for my dressing), baked potatoes, broccoli, asparagus.

Height: 6' 1"
Weight: 190 lbs.
Body Fat%: 18%-20%

I work out at 6:30am-8:30am and then work out again 6:30-7:30. I take my creatine and my whey isolate protein (2 scoops) right after work out. I take my Nitro-X 30 minutes before I eat and I usually eat 10 egg whites before my morning work out then i wait a little bit (30 minutes before my workout) to take my N.O. Xplode and lipo 6. I Take lipo 6 30 minutes before lunch and my second workout. I take N.O. Xplode 30 minutes before my second workout. Then i eat my dinner and before I go to bed I drink on muscle milk and I drink some creatine (1 scoop).

[jabaha]

My goal is to get a lower body fat while gaining muscle and obtaining a more lean look. If you have any suggestions please let me know and is it safe to take JW with all these products?

I have been looking for SERM all night and i could not find anything on it ronin so if you know a link where i could please let me know because I have had bad luck looking for it. I am not going to take the axis-ht with JW. I am just going to use JW alone with the other products that I have with me.

[jabaha]

A Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM). This is the article I read about SERM.

[PVSkyHigh]

Post a typical day's diet with a time breakdown of when you eat each meal, and post your macro totals for the day as well.

[Viperspit]

Agreed, post up your diet with all macro's and timing. Your current supplementation looks confusing to me. If your goal is to lose bodyfat and retain muscle, I'd take a look at that supp list. Stick with the basics,

Whey - Will assit in getting your protein levels.
Creatine - Will assist on your cut to keep up strength

I'd keep those (2), ditch the others, watch your diet, and let's see what your cardio schedule looks like. I'm not sure how you can gage what's working for you and what isn't with that list. JMO

[jabaha]

Typical day:

6:30 A.M.- I take my nitro-x(4). I also take Lipo 6 (2).

7:00 A.M.- I eat 10 egg whites.(Meal 1)

7:30 A.M.- I wait for my food to settle so I can take my N.O. Xplode.

8:00-10:00 A.M.- I go to work out and before i start workout I do 10 minutes of cardio on the bike. Then i w/o my lower body (monday, wednesday, friday). I w/o my upper body (tuesday and thursday). I do abs after I finish w/o. Then i go do another 10 minutes of cardio.
*After w/o i take my whey protein (52g of protein w/ 2 scoops) and i take my Sizeon (1 scoop). (Meal 2)

11:30 A.M.- I take my lipo 6 (2) and nitro-x (4) before i eat lunch.

11:45 A.M.- I take cheaters if i need it.*

Noon- I eat chicken with brown rice. (Meal 3)

4:00 P.M.- I take N.O. Xplode (2 scoops) with lipo 6 (2).

4:30-6:30 P.M.- I go w/o my lower body or upper body depending on what day it is. I just do the same w/o as before that i did in the morning. I do cardio 10 minutes before w/o. I do abs after doing my main w/o and after doing abs i do 10 minutes of cardio.
*After w/o i take my whey protein (52g of protein w/ 2 scoops) and i take my SizeOn (1 scoop). (Meal 4)

7:30 P.M.- I take my nitro-x (4).

8:00 P.M.- I eat dinner. I usually eat sirloin steak 8 oz. and i have a salad with that. I use balsamic vinaigrette for my dressing with my salad to get my fats.(Meal 5)

9:30 P.M- I take my muscle milk (32g of protein) and my SizeOn before i got to bed and i also take nitro-x (4). (Meal 6)
Then i go to bed and sleep and get ready for the next day.

[jabaha]

Will some someone give me a list of the products that i should keep and take with JW or give me a list of the supplements i should not take with JW or both haha.

[FitnFirm]

Will some someone give me a list of the products that i should keep and take with JW or give me a list of the supplements i should not take with JW or both haha.

I especially like the N-gorge and Primed from ALRI. The N-gorge is CEE creatine with NO in it that you take twice daily (4caps) each time, yes capsules!!!! I love that part, and then before you workout you take your N-gorge with Primed for pre-workout energy, focus, NO included for Pump, these two work so well together and of course are fine to use with JW.

I guess it depends on your budget as to what choices you will make.

[jabaha]

N.O. Xplode and primed are basically the same you take them both before you work out. nitro-x is my NO i am taking right now and SizeOn is my creatine. I'm sure N-gorge and primed work well with each other but they are expensive and i want to use what i have now. It would be sweet if i could primed and n-gorge for free that would save me some money.

[Zombie]

Currently taking:
N.O Xplode
Lipo 6
Nitro-X (similar to Nitrix)
ON 100% Whey Isolate Protein
IDS Multi-Pro Whey
SizeOn (Creatine)
BSN Cheaters
Cytosport Muscle Milk RTD

correct me if im wrong but thermogenics(in this case Lipo-6) constrict blood vessels so that the heart need to speed up alittle and by doing so incleases temperature?
and NO2 containing producsts (NOxplode and nitro-x) expand blood vessels to improve blood flow and delivery of nutrients?

[jabaha]

So fitnfirm do you think you can hook me up with some free products? Because that would be sweet if you could do that!!!

[jabaha]

thermogenics raise internal body temperature and NO increases protein synthesis

[NO HYPE]

I saw it on a forum about creatine not being safe to take with bulking supplements but that was a long time ago when I read that in someone's forum.

Please go back to the forum and tell the person who posted that thread that creatine should not be smoked, cuz that's what he's doin with it if he's feeding u a line of sh*t like that.

One thing you want to do when obtaining information from a forum is.... RESEARCH.

From your post I gather that u want to lose a lot of body fat while still gaining a good amount of muscle.

Why don't you make things a little bit easier on yourself and divide your goals into a two part program? Focus on the fat loss first. Work on improving your eating and exercise (mainly cardio) habbits. You first have to reduce the fat in order to see the gains.

With fat loss being your first objective, it allows u to completely focus on the goal at hand, wich in turn will provide better results.

Once you've established a solid foundation, then you'll be ready to add REAL size to the equation.

Forget about what a SERM is cuz I can tell you one thing that it ain't for.... You!

[jabaha]

lean muscle burns fat so by obtaining lean muscle i am burning fat so i dont think need to divide my program into separate parts.