Viperspit's Pants Ripping, Mega MASS building plan with ALRI

[moklepaul]

Pics are a very good indicator of how hard you've worked, nicely done Viper

[Viperspit]

Good w/o, what kind of leg press do you have? Are those shrugs with a pause/hold or up and down?
Our sled is a Cybex and it's garbage, my back kills me on that POS (90degree seat) so for the next 10 months no leg press for me.

I'll have to check and see what brand they are. They are more like 45 degree sleds. Yea they even tend to mess with my lower back a bit as well. Of couse my ROM is prolly like 2 - 2 1/2 feet with long legs

[Basso]

I'll have to check and see what brand they are. They are more like 45 degree sleds. Yea they even tend to mess with my lower back a bit as well. Of couse my ROM is prolly like 2 - 2 1/2 feet with long legs

Still quite a chunk of weight on there! 45degree is cool, I can normally deal with those, but if I go to heavy the pressure gets to my lower back so if I do them it's at the end of a w/o with light weight.

I wanted to ask you what you think of the LeanDreams? I was taking USPs REM but now it's keeping me up, hows the LD working?

[Viperspit]

Basso, the Lean Dreams is working so-so right now in terms of sleep. It really relaxes me, but I tend to drink a lot of water, up to time to go to bed. I try and expell as much as possible before going to bed, but I have been waking up in the middle of the night to go again.
The nights that I do sleep thru, it's awesome, wake up feeling refreshed and great. I may have to start cutting off the water an hour or 2 before bed.
As far as the fat oxidation properties are concerned, that's a tough one for me to evaluate. It's one of thos things that you really can't attribute and fat loss strictly to LD. I like to think of it as an extra benifit to my restful sleep.

Still quite a chunk of weight on there! 45degree is cool, I can normally deal with those, but if I go to heavy the pressure gets to my lower back so if I do them it's at the end of a w/o with light weight.

I wanted to ask you what you think of the LeanDreams? I was taking USPs REM but now it's keeping me up, hows the LD working?

[Basso]

Basso, the Lean Dreams is working so-so right now in terms of sleep. It really relaxes me, but I tend to drink a lot of water, up to time to go to bed. I try and expell as much as possible before going to bed, but I have been waking up in the middle of the night to go again.
The nights that I do sleep thru, it's awesome, wake up feeling refreshed and great. I may have to start cutting off the water an hour or 2 before bed.
As far as the fat oxidation properties are concerned, that's a tough one for me to evaluate. It's one of thos things that you really can't attribute and fat loss strictly to LD. I like to think of it as an extra benifit to my restful sleep.

Thanks, sounds like it may be worth a try!

[Viperspit]

Overall a good workout tonight. Went up on Preacher Curls, and Concentration curls, but I think I'll go back down on CC's and work on form more.

I get severe forearm cramps, pumps, or something going on on any overhanded grip movement. Why is that? For instance on BB Rows, it's not my Lats wearing out, it's my forearms. I feel them on Lat Pulldowns, Chins, T-Bar Rows, you name it, anything with an overhand grip. I didn't feel it when I did Deadlifts in the past though, kinda weird.
Anyone else have this issue?

[OCCFan023]

wouldnt you be using your forearm a great deal in all of those exervises (lat pull down, rows, and so on.) The deadlift I feel like your forearms are more just a connection point and not getting worked as hard as when your pulling. And when your using your forearms more in the pulling exercises it would be as if you were doing a sole forarm exercise and pump should be noticable.

Great log man and awsome job. Been following it and just wanted to jump in.

[Viperspit]

Thanks OCC
Yea, those exercises use the forearms quite a bit, but I'm still curious if others feel the cramps. or pumps, whatever the feeling is that I get. I feel like My Lats can go more reps on each set, but there's no way my forearms are gonna let me.

wouldnt you be using your forearm a great deal in all of those exervises (lat pull down, rows, and so on.) The deadlift I feel like your forearms are more just a connection point and not getting worked as hard as when your pulling. And when your using your forearms more in the pulling exercises it would be as if you were doing a sole forarm exercise and pump should be noticable.

Great log man and awsome job. Been following it and just wanted to jump in.

[Basso]

If you want to alleviate stress on the forearms during these lifts, use straps. While I don't like to use them so much it will allow you to concentrate on not involving the arms as much. You will beable to use your arms as a connection rather then a primary mover.

[Viperspit]

Basso, thanks for the input. I was using straps It didn't matter, the feeling was still there.

If you want to alleviate stress on the forearms during these lifts, use straps. While I don't like to use them so much it will allow you to concentrate on not involving the arms as much. You will beable to use your arms as a connection rather then a primary mover.

[Basso]

Basso, thanks for the input. I was using straps It didn't matter, the feeling was still there.

Can't believe I'm going to say this but try loosening your grip a bit and concentrate on using your lats to pull the weight. Think of your arms as a means to use your lats, you can almost eliminate them entirely of course the weight will have to come down, but you can get some isolation on the lats once you find the sweet spot.

I'd rather suffer through the arm pain myself, just means I don't need to work my arms as hard

[Viperspit]

Yea, maybe it's my death grip on the bar that causing the issue. I'll try this next week and let you know how it works out, thanks for the help

Can't believe I'm going to say this but try loosening your grip a bit and concentrate on using your lats to pull the weight. Think of your arms as a means to use your lats, you can almost eliminate them entirely of course the weight will have to come down, but you can get some isolation on the lats once you find the sweet spot.

I'd rather suffer through the arm pain myself, just means I don't need to work my arms as hard

[CHAPS]

Ya i don't like using straps unless i have to, i say go without then but if on your last set or so your forearms are toast then put them on.

[Basso]

Yea, maybe it's my death grip on the bar that causing the issue. I'll try this next week and let you know how it works out, thanks for the help

I'm pro death grip myself! It adds a whole new dimension to your w/o, but we need to be flexible and do what gives the best advantage.

[somewhatgifted]

I try to imagine if my hands were hooks, a means for holding the weight and pull with lats first then arms.

[Viperspit]

Good news: Today is the first time on my bulk so far that I've gained 1 pound 2 days in a row 225.5 this morning. Hope it sticks.

[Basso]

Congrats, btw new avatar is looking tight are those 20" guns?, nice hair cut (copycat).

[Viperspit]

Congrats, btw new avatar is looking tight are those 20" guns?, nice hair cut (copycat).

haha, not hardly. The are like 17 1/4" guns, hoping to be 18" someday soon. Yea, the flat top look, old habits are here to stay

[Basso]

haha, not hardly. The are like 17 1/4" guns, hoping to be 18" someday soon. Yea, the flat top look, old habits are here to stay

Old habits? are you a former militant? 17.25 is not to be scoffed at, anyway looking good, how's the leg w/o coming? When your ready to get big legs let me know and I'll hook ya up! Secrets are secrets though so just be forwarned.

[Viperspit]

Old habits? are you a former militant? 17.25 is not to be scoffed at, anyway looking good, how's the leg w/o coming? When your ready to get big legs let me know and I'll hook ya up! Secrets are secrets though so just be forwarned.

yes, former military here. 4 years in the USAF. I'm into week 3 of my bulking routine and a new w/o schedule, my Trainers got me hooked up with a new Leg Routine as well, so with the extra cals, and w/o, I'm hoping to get these babies growing. If not, then I'll hit you up