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    Pics are a very good indicator of how hard you've worked, nicely done Viper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basso
    Good w/o, what kind of leg press do you have? Are those shrugs with a pause/hold or up and down?
    Our sled is a Cybex and it's garbage, my back kills me on that POS (90degree seat) so for the next 10 months no leg press for me.

    I'll have to check and see what brand they are. They are more like 45 degree sleds. Yea they even tend to mess with my lower back a bit as well. Of couse my ROM is prolly like 2 - 2 1/2 feet with long legs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperspit
    I'll have to check and see what brand they are. They are more like 45 degree sleds. Yea they even tend to mess with my lower back a bit as well. Of couse my ROM is prolly like 2 - 2 1/2 feet with long legs

    Still quite a chunk of weight on there! 45degree is cool, I can normally deal with those, but if I go to heavy the pressure gets to my lower back so if I do them it's at the end of a w/o with light weight.

    I wanted to ask you what you think of the LeanDreams? I was taking USPs REM but now it's keeping me up, hows the LD working?
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    Basso, the Lean Dreams is working so-so right now in terms of sleep. It really relaxes me, but I tend to drink a lot of water, up to time to go to bed. I try and expell as much as possible before going to bed, but I have been waking up in the middle of the night to go again.
    The nights that I do sleep thru, it's awesome, wake up feeling refreshed and great. I may have to start cutting off the water an hour or 2 before bed.
    As far as the fat oxidation properties are concerned, that's a tough one for me to evaluate. It's one of thos things that you really can't attribute and fat loss strictly to LD. I like to think of it as an extra benifit to my restful sleep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Basso
    Still quite a chunk of weight on there! 45degree is cool, I can normally deal with those, but if I go to heavy the pressure gets to my lower back so if I do them it's at the end of a w/o with light weight.

    I wanted to ask you what you think of the LeanDreams? I was taking USPs REM but now it's keeping me up, hows the LD working?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperspit
    Basso, the Lean Dreams is working so-so right now in terms of sleep. It really relaxes me, but I tend to drink a lot of water, up to time to go to bed. I try and expell as much as possible before going to bed, but I have been waking up in the middle of the night to go again.
    The nights that I do sleep thru, it's awesome, wake up feeling refreshed and great. I may have to start cutting off the water an hour or 2 before bed.
    As far as the fat oxidation properties are concerned, that's a tough one for me to evaluate. It's one of thos things that you really can't attribute and fat loss strictly to LD. I like to think of it as an extra benifit to my restful sleep.
    Thanks, sounds like it may be worth a try!
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    Overall a good workout tonight. Went up on Preacher Curls, and Concentration curls, but I think I'll go back down on CC's and work on form more.

    I get severe forearm cramps, pumps, or something going on on any overhanded grip movement. Why is that? For instance on BB Rows, it's not my Lats wearing out, it's my forearms. I feel them on Lat Pulldowns, Chins, T-Bar Rows, you name it, anything with an overhand grip. I didn't feel it when I did Deadlifts in the past though, kinda weird.
    Anyone else have this issue?
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    wouldnt you be using your forearm a great deal in all of those exervises (lat pull down, rows, and so on.) The deadlift I feel like your forearms are more just a connection point and not getting worked as hard as when your pulling. And when your using your forearms more in the pulling exercises it would be as if you were doing a sole forarm exercise and pump should be noticable.

    Great log man and awsome job. Been following it and just wanted to jump in.
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    Thanks OCC
    Yea, those exercises use the forearms quite a bit, but I'm still curious if others feel the cramps. or pumps, whatever the feeling is that I get. I feel like My Lats can go more reps on each set, but there's no way my forearms are gonna let me.

    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023
    wouldnt you be using your forearm a great deal in all of those exervises (lat pull down, rows, and so on.) The deadlift I feel like your forearms are more just a connection point and not getting worked as hard as when your pulling. And when your using your forearms more in the pulling exercises it would be as if you were doing a sole forarm exercise and pump should be noticable.

    Great log man and awsome job. Been following it and just wanted to jump in.
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    If you want to alleviate stress on the forearms during these lifts, use straps. While I don't like to use them so much it will allow you to concentrate on not involving the arms as much. You will beable to use your arms as a connection rather then a primary mover.
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    Basso, thanks for the input. I was using straps It didn't matter, the feeling was still there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Basso
    If you want to alleviate stress on the forearms during these lifts, use straps. While I don't like to use them so much it will allow you to concentrate on not involving the arms as much. You will beable to use your arms as a connection rather then a primary mover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperspit
    Basso, thanks for the input. I was using straps It didn't matter, the feeling was still there.
    Can't believe I'm going to say this but try loosening your grip a bit and concentrate on using your lats to pull the weight. Think of your arms as a means to use your lats, you can almost eliminate them entirely of course the weight will have to come down, but you can get some isolation on the lats once you find the sweet spot.

    I'd rather suffer through the arm pain myself, just means I don't need to work my arms as hard
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    Yea, maybe it's my death grip on the bar that causing the issue. I'll try this next week and let you know how it works out, thanks for the help

    Quote Originally Posted by Basso
    Can't believe I'm going to say this but try loosening your grip a bit and concentrate on using your lats to pull the weight. Think of your arms as a means to use your lats, you can almost eliminate them entirely of course the weight will have to come down, but you can get some isolation on the lats once you find the sweet spot.

    I'd rather suffer through the arm pain myself, just means I don't need to work my arms as hard
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    Ya i don't like using straps unless i have to, i say go without then but if on your last set or so your forearms are toast then put them on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperspit
    Yea, maybe it's my death grip on the bar that causing the issue. I'll try this next week and let you know how it works out, thanks for the help
    I'm pro death grip myself! It adds a whole new dimension to your w/o, but we need to be flexible and do what gives the best advantage.
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    I try to imagine if my hands were hooks, a means for holding the weight and pull with lats first then arms.
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    Good news: Today is the first time on my bulk so far that I've gained 1 pound 2 days in a row 225.5 this morning. Hope it sticks.
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    Congrats, btw new avatar is looking tight are those 20" guns?, nice hair cut (copycat).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basso
    Congrats, btw new avatar is looking tight are those 20" guns?, nice hair cut (copycat).

    haha, not hardly. The are like 17 1/4" guns, hoping to be 18" someday soon. Yea, the flat top look, old habits are here to stay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperspit
    haha, not hardly. The are like 17 1/4" guns, hoping to be 18" someday soon. Yea, the flat top look, old habits are here to stay
    Old habits? are you a former militant? 17.25 is not to be scoffed at, anyway looking good, how's the leg w/o coming? When your ready to get big legs let me know and I'll hook ya up! Secrets are secrets though so just be forwarned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basso
    Old habits? are you a former militant? 17.25 is not to be scoffed at, anyway looking good, how's the leg w/o coming? When your ready to get big legs let me know and I'll hook ya up! Secrets are secrets though so just be forwarned.

    yes, former military here. 4 years in the USAF. I'm into week 3 of my bulking routine and a new w/o schedule, my Trainers got me hooked up with a new Leg Routine as well, so with the extra cals, and w/o, I'm hoping to get these babies growing. If not, then I'll hit you up
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    Man that is an awesome one year transformation man. Your looking huge... Keep it up my man!
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    Regeneration X: As I've said before that I've gained a lot of respect for this product. FnF reminded me that before I started taking this my legs were very sore the following day. Now it's like I second guess myself to see if I worked hard enough. This product truely works for me in recovery mode. You get so used to it after awhile that you forget what DOM's you used to have
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimoteoS
    Man that is an awesome one year transformation man. Your looking huge... Keep it up my man!

    Thanks bud, I'm trying my damdest to get big
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    Wonderful work.......inspiring!
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    Poor Viper He has Jury Duty Hopefully a short one!!!
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    oops forgot to give a weight update, I was at 228.5 this morning. Seeing the scale move now

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    Thank you sir. I appreciate the feedback.

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    Wonderful work.......inspiring!
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    Nice job on the weight gain! Creeping up on 230lbs!
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    weight this morning was 229 lbs.
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    Looks like you're coming along pretty solid Viper. What kind of cals do you take in prior to a leg day like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
    Looks like you're coming along pretty solid Viper. What kind of cals do you take in prior to a leg day like that?

    Here's my breakdown for this Leg Day:

    Cal Fat Carbs Pro
    Daily Totals 4237 93.5 372.5 474.5
    Calories ( Macro) 4229.5 841.5 1490 1898
    % Caloric Intake 0.20 0.35 0.45

    Doesn't line up the great with a cut and paste but you get the idea.
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    Gotta love Squat day!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basso
    Gotta love Squat day!!

    I used to dread it, but now that I'm making some gains, and hopefully adding some mass to my toothpicks, I actually look forward to it! Measurements coming up again 8/1/06, so we'll see.
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    logs looking great Viper, progress has been very apparent. I just had a question for your back day. On the lat pull down are you looking to start heavier and drop down or was it to ensure form and because your arm was hurt?

    awsome work man keep it up
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    Thanks OCC. On Back Day I dropped down because of my tendon issues. I felt I was cheating too bad on my first set, so I dropped the weight to do it right. During this 12 week training period, I try and stick with the same weight, after I get to 10 reps, then I move up in weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023
    logs looking great Viper, progress has been very apparent. I just had a question for your back day. On the lat pull down are you looking to start heavier and drop down or was it to ensure form and because your arm was hurt?

    awsome work man keep it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperspit
    Thanks OCC. On Back Day I dropped down because of my tendon issues. I felt I was cheating too bad on my first set, so I dropped the weight to do it right. During this 12 week training period, I try and stick with the same weight, after I get to 10 reps, then I move up in weight.
    yea man thats a smart way to go. In the past I would catch myself cheating form and not wanting to drop weight (ego bs..) but got over that stupid **** fast.

    Its a great feeling when the reps that were hard as hell to push out last week or so are a breeze (ar atleast easier) than before.. one of the best imo
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    Woke up this morning and stepped on the scale. I must have had a lot of sodium in that steak that I ate out for lunch yesterday or something... 230.5 lbs It'd be nice if I could hang on to it, but I know better and it will probably be back to around 228 tomorrow morning.
  

  
 

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